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  1. El-P
    Great segment, but it's sad to see Heyman pushed aside like this. It's like Paule E. is venting is own frustration with Watts during this segment, with pretty terrific results. Nice way also to put Rude over as a top guy, as Heyman says he doesn't need Madusa or him to win his matches anyway.
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    This is the best Barbie training segment yet. They really did an excellent job pushing him as a monster, and Foley doing the talk for him really fit the picture perfectly. Yeah, Barb going back to the 80's look to erase the WWF years from the mind of the audience was a good idea.
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    Well, I actually enjoys the build to Halloween Havoc quite a bit, especially after Clash 20. Things are getting better. Watts is supressing the ridiculous tope rope rule, although keeping a dq on dropping a knee to the throat. Why not. More good matches on TV, with Brad Armstrong being on fire all of a sudden, I guess a small push did that to him. Although Barbarian isn't a main event wrestler, the push they gave him with Cac at his side and all the vignettes was a strong job of making him look like a freak. Jake Roberts is awesome on interview to build to Sting match. Doc & Gordy superpush that was going nowhere is done, and I like how they planted the seeds oh heel Windham as soon as the post match celebration with Dustin after they win the belt. It's subtle and it works well. Rude vs Chono could be intriguing enough I guess as an interpromotionnal match, but they did a better match plugging Sasaki coming in. Brian Pillman as a heel is refreshing, and it's cool to see him tag with Austin for the first time, foreshadowing what's happening next in 93. The lighheavyweight is dead, Armstrong busting out his knee was the nail in the coffin. Watts still gets low-budget veterans on the roster though, as Tony Atlas filling in for Butch Reed is not exactly star power. I'm fearing the Eric Watts push, I wonder how it'll look in retrospect.
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    I never realized how big Eric Watts was before.
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    Really enjoys these vignettes too. Finally Watts seems to get into a groove with the Havoc build, as he does the best job possible to get Barbie over. Good use of Cactus too.
  6. El-P
    Finally Watts deliver something cool. It took a while, but this is quite the education on wrestling promo. Good stuff.
  7. El-P
    I admit the build t Havoc is infact quite good. Really cool promos, and the fact they didn't jump each other makes it better.
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    Yeah, Cactus was weary of the snake. I would be too. At one point the cobra makes a sudden move and Cactus nearly jumps back. Jake holding the cobra while he's biting the handler's glove was creepy
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    I actually enjoys the Cactus Jack/Barbarian tandem quite a bit, and Cactus was perfect in the role of cuting promos for a freak like Barbie. The training sessions were fun. I admit Barbarian was given more credibility during this period than during his entire WWF stint.
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    Shane the white-meat babyface seems so alien once you're used to the Franchise. The Magnum connection was indeed dated, and the belly-to-belly never looked that good anyway. It would take years for Douglas to come off with a better finisher in the Pittsbugh Plunge. Yeah, blame Watts...
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    One of the strongest TV match of the year, as the TV becomes much better at this point. Barry Windham really is the standout in the match I though, great on selling babyface in peril, smooth offense as always. Terry Gordy was so good at this point, it's depressing to think in a few months his brain would go bye-bye. Doc & Gordy really were a failed experiment as far as the WCW audience goes, they really didn't get a chance to get over because of overpush and lack of promo skills, but they were a great tag team. I still don't know where does the MVC name comes from, as they were never called Miracle Violence Connection in WCW, and I don't remember them having any name in Japan either (although I would guess it was a japanese nickname, it sounds like it anyway).
  12. El-P
    Very much a Jake match, in that nothing is spectacular, but the basic basis of the match makes it very good simply thanks to Jake's psychology and selling. Really good stuff. Jake in WCW could have been a long term big time main event player...
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    Don't quite see the correlation when MMA is pretty much dead in Japan well. FWIW, in his shoot interview, Tajiri said he thinks MMA has nothing to do with wrestling popularity going down. To him pro-wrestling is down because the emphasis has been put on dangerous moves instead of showcasing strong characters.
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    Edit.
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    Invader was just managed by Harley Race, so he was put into the mix. Fun little Survivor Series match, but like always, it feels rushed. The no top rope rule really is a cheap way to get some dq's here, and Scott Steiner comes off like a complete fool doing it in front of the referee. Rick's exchanges with Vader were super stiff and impressive, but Rick really doesn't sell shit at this point. His released german suplex was amazing though. Vintage heel Jake stuff at the end. It's worth notice that the DDT is the most over finisher ever at this point, people still chanting for it despite being used against Sting.
  16. El-P
    Cool montage, better than the tag-team one.
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    Good little match, but it didn't feel like anything special, which I guess is enough to make it a slight disapointment. Steamboat going to the tope rope to win since it was a no dq match didn't get any special reaction, which showed that the banning of third rope rule was not working at all.
  18. El-P
    Andre would die a few months later. Kinda cool to see him chat with Gordon Solie though.
  19. El-P
    The answer is Terry Funk.
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    You could see the seeds planted in the overbabyface interview on Saturday Night the week before. Finally something really fresh for Pillman, he was in a rut for way too long as a babyface.
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    Well you're giving me some hope for my eventual 1993 watch, but I'm stuck before Clash 20, and it's rather a chore going through WCW TV at this point. Not Ole Anderson 90 bad but still... Didn't know that story about Paul E.. Well, it sucks, Paul E. brought tons of heat to the product. Of course the big issue is that as much as the TV was fun, nothing really drew in early 92.
  22. El-P
    Bash at the Beach 92 had a lot of good stuff, but the booking was head-scratching to say the least. Two non titles match in Sting vs Cactus and Steamboat vs Rude (which was basically the final payoff of their big feud). Two 30 minutes match on the same show, including one with Doc & Gordy who weren't over with WCW crowds. The Great American Bash was even worse in term of build, well, outside of Vader vs Sting it was basically not built at all on TV, and the entire PPV save for the title match was the NWA tag title tournament. And once again, tons of really long matches which totally drained the crowd. Then of course Halloween Havoc is coming with the most idiotic gimmick possible for Sting & Jake and Ron Simmons vs Barbarian as the title match. And, if my memory serves me right, another totally overlong tag titles match in which Austin took Gordy's place (OD I would guess), and the infamous Rude vs Chono match. Watts had a terrible track record in term of putting together PPV's for WCW.
  23. El-P
    It's no myth that WCW under Watts really took a nosedive in term of exctiment. The Dangerous Alliance basically fizzling out is extremely frustrating, coming off the amazing Wargames and the Zbyszko turn. The tope rope rules was obviously going to be worked into an angle at some point, but it really hampered guys like Z-Man, Pillman, even Steamboat. There's a very noticeable incentive on working more matwork based matches, which can be good with workers who do know how, but when every match goes strictly on the mat, it just looks artificial and dated. Funny to see Bobby Eaton & Arn Anderson work an old time Anderson match. Funny but frustrating too, although Eaton can do that style too. Watts' "pure sport" announcing comes off forced. There was a few good things with Watts, such as more clean loss (including the Steiners, Sting and Vader), and the fact heels could challenge each other instead of having an invisible wall between heel and faces, but overall, the product really isn't that much fun anymore. And Erik Watts hasn't showed up yet. Ron Simmons's win of the world title sure was a hot moment, but I think the lack of built hurt him. A few weeks before he was teaming with JYD on the undercard, and all of a sudden he's the world champ. Of course the fact he'll be fed the freaking Barbarian (whom I enjoy as a worker but who just doesn't belong at the main event level) won't help. Jake Roberts gives a little bit of excitement back, cuting great promos. WWF really dropped the ball releasing heel Jake so quickly, he was a hot character. Rude and Austin still carry the belts with pride and honor, well, they have solid reigns and feuds, respectively with Nikita and Steamboat, so that's good. But Paul E. really got screwed in the process by Watts, he's playing utilities at this point. But there's an odd feeling of dullness coming from the shows after an exciting first half of 1992. Not much in term of really good matches on TV either, especially during the summer.
  24. El-P
    I guess it worked for the moment, but I Simmons winning on a Clash would have been came off much better.
  25. El-P
    Great evil promo indeed.
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