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[1993-01-30-WCW-Saturday Night] Vader & Barry Windham vs Sting & Dustin Rhodes
El-P replied to Loss's topic in January 1993
Excellent match. Vader does a great job cutting off the hope spots, the crowd is eating this shit up.- 12 replies
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[1993-01-16-WCW-Saturday Night] Ricky Steamboat vs Dustin Rhodes
El-P replied to Loss's topic in January 1993
Really good match, and you gotta love Windham crashing the party. His Implant DDT was terrific looking.- 11 replies
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[1993-01-23-WCW-Saturday Night] Ricky Steamboat vs Dustin Rhodes
El-P replied to Loss's topic in January 1993
I always enjoy babyface matches where the tempers go off. They do a nice job building up the intensity. This screams rematch.- 10 replies
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[1993-01-30-WCW-Saturday Night] Interview: Steven Regal
El-P replied to Loss's topic in January 1993
I never knew Watts brought in Regal as a straight face. Odd to see. I agree things looked much better in early 1993, the TV was getting really good again.- 9 replies
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Too much dead weight for this to be a good match, although getting rid of Killer Kyle right away was nice. Golden has showed me exactly zilch in the ring since I began watching SMW. Too few of DWB vs Tracey at the end, but it's a way to kick off their feud. Mantell is awesome on color though.
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[1993-01-16-WCW-Saturday Night] Arn Anderson and Erik Watts
El-P replied to Loss's topic in January 1993
Arn is a trooper to go along such nonsense. Erik just doesn't have anything.- 13 replies
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I don't remember Bammer being lazy in ECW. When would you say he was ? (I still think he was kinda underwhelming though, just like pretty much everywhere I can think of. Bubba certainly has a lot more memorable matches, but after 95 there wasn't much left in Bubba it seems. I'd take Bubba over Bam Bam probably for peak, but Bam Bam was pretty much alway fun to watch unlike Bubba, whose last runs in WCW after 95 and WWF were plain bad)
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Really good match. Austin, Pillman and Douglas really look like the future of wrestling here. Dumb WCW, they had it all.
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I liked how Vader was put over as an athlete as opposed to a freak show like he would have in WWF during the Hogan era. Even low-key, Vader is intimidating. Good stuff, and glad the title went back to him after the failed Simmons experiment. Good way to re-establish a hierarchy for the new year.
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[1993-01-09-WCW-Saturday Night] Barry Windham vs Ricky Steamboat
El-P replied to Loss's topic in January 1993
Excellent TV match, strong on selling and storytelling. Those two were the two most solid wrestlers on the roster at the time, and although it's not a spectacular match in term of spots or action, it's spectacular in term of how fluid it came down. Really surprised by the DQ ending, especially since as soon as the ref bump happened I though Barry would win after some cheating and go against Dustin in the final. I guess it was a way of tricking the audience into thinking they were gonna get a screwjob finish. Nice unpredictability. Douglas in zubaz is so early 90's.- 15 replies
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[1993-01-02-WCW-Saturday Night] Up Close w/ Arn Anderson
El-P replied to Loss's topic in January 1993
I really enjoyed those Up Close segment. Like it's been said, not too long, just the right time to make a point come across, and Arn is great at being serious and realistic.- 13 replies
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What do you guys think ? Seems like there's some shady stuff still happening with some "benefit" shows I guess. I wasn't aware of Kamala's health. This sucks.
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I dunno. I think Badstreet was a rather shitty theme. Doesn't help of course that the Freebirds were often a rather shitty team too at this point. Well, they have no excuse.
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It'd probably be way more annoying if he didn't draw like crazy whenever he did that. Mid-South is a thousand times stronger anytime Watts is on camera or announcing. He was singularly excellent at getting the storylines over in the most passionate way possible and he knew his audience and spoke directly to their hearts. It's not MY heart. It's definitely not your heart. But it's weird to go after something so effective like that. Well, there's a difference between being super effective with his core audience in Mid-South in the 80's and being a total delusionnal dated dickhead on WCW TV trying to explain why you're not actually overpushing your own shitty worker of a son though. I like Mid-South a good deal, but it's not as great as it was pimped to be at one time I think. Especially UWF TV which could be grating at times. Of course there was also a good deal of really great stuff there.
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Holy shit, I just re-read that stuff. Glorious.
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[1992-12-26-WCW-Saturday Night] Battlebowl Feature / Interview: Rick Rude
El-P replied to Loss's topic in December 1992
Liked the Battebowl video quite a bit. Well produced and made it seem important.- 8 replies
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Most probably. Watts has always been overated anyway. Mid-South isn't the sacred land of the territories era, and UWF in particular was not that great. One of the annoying trait of Bill Watts was his way to put himself in front of the camera for no good reason and try to get himself over to the hardcore fans especially, with his bullshit about true wrestling. It gets especially annoying when he's on camera trying to deny the fact that he's *pushing* his own son to the moon. Watching Erik Watts get a win over Arn Anderson when he should be beating jobbers in the curtain jerker match is infuriating, watching him challenging Rick Rude is just stupid. And man, I HATE the new music themes WCW uses from December on. They had perfectly fine themes for Rude, Steamboat, Cactus Jack, and now I get to hear those lame generic tunes with stupid lyrics. I think Michael Hayes helped produced this, hich wouldn't surprised me, he ruined the Freebird mystique enough with his stupid songs when they should only have uses Freebirds.
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[1992-12-19-WCW-Saturday Night] Up Close w/Ron Simmons
El-P replied to Loss's topic in December 1992
Simmons push on top was nice for the initial pop. But reality is, it didn't work, on any level. Simmons just isn't that good of a worker, and to me his work went down during this period. I enjoyed him much more during the Doom days. And he's getting boring there...- 9 replies
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Hey, Steamboat just had a tag match against Eaton & Austin. Barry was a really good face, but I agree he's even better as a heel. Steamboat kicking ass his always cool, it contrasts with his "family man" white-meat babyface character.
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Kinda sad that Rude implies that Madusa blew the doctor to get the X-rays. Couldn't they be less mysoginic ? It worked with Francine because that was the whole character, but Madusa just isn't that kind of character, she's an asskicker, not a whore. Anyway, I really enjoys these interviews with Tony, just gave a more human, non "promo" aspect to the interviews, and Rude really shines here. Like the fact he points out he's been the top contender for a year and still never recieved a title shot. Making sense out of the booking holes.
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I'm totally down on Simmons at this point. He's just not a world champion, and his work looks more and more weak as time passes. Too bad Rude vs Simmons was called off, as I would have loved to see Rude win the WCW title at that point, and get a Vader vs Rude match teased in the interviews earlier in the show. Vader vs Sting work as good as they always do, and Simmons does a great power move on Vader, but this is nothing special as a whole. I did like the ending though.
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Oh man, I'll never hear the sentence " he shot on his opponent" the same way again.
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[1992-11-21-WCW-Saturday Night] Big Van Vader vs Dustin Rhodes
El-P replied to Loss's topic in November 1992
Very good TV match. Yeah, Dustin was probably Vader's best opponent in the US. Kinda sad to think about their matches 6 years later in WWF compared to this one. The spin off bump on the concrete is indeed quite impressive.- 15 replies
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I liked the execution of the turn. It's very organic. Barry was more agressive all match long, and he's a veteran and former Horsemen, he's not like young Dustin whose been tag champ with Steamboat a few months before, so he has a valid point about wanting to get the pin on the injured Steamboat, accident or not. Dustin coes comes off a bit hollier than thou as a white meat babyface, but at the time it still worked very well. Windham is pretty awesome and the best of the four there, and Douglas shows how much he has improved since the Dynamic Dudes, the bump he takes neck first on teh top rope is brutal. The only thing that didn't work with his work was that the belly to belly was definitely a weak finisher. Very good match, very good angle.
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[1992-11-18-WCW-Clash of the Champions XXI] Sting vs Rick Rude
El-P replied to Loss's topic in November 1992
Never saw this one before, and although Rude on control can be dull at times, I think this was a perfectly good match, and they worked an exciting final stretch. Nice sellings and transitions, I don't see what's disapointing about it. I liked the judges finish becaus it protected Rude from being pinned.- 8 replies
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