El-P
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Come on people, Stan's got a busted eardrum...
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Between this, "White Ligntning", Dixie Dy-no-mite with the confederate flag all over his face, how close was SMW from having a bunch of Klan members ? Woops, the Harris Boys and their SS tatoos are coming soon, nevermind... Seriously, WTF was Cornette thinking having a nazi jobber ? I'm really enjoying the Heavenly Bodies vs Fantastics feud. Tons of great brawl sequences, really feels like Mid-South. With the barb-wire cage match coming up at Fire On the Mountain, that feeling will only get stronger I guess. Bob Armstrong is a great TV character, and superb talker. I also really warmed up to Caudle, and Dutch Mantell is just hilarious and a tremendous color man. Why was he not given a good role in WWF or WCW is beyond me. Brian Lee is clearly not doing much for me as the ace of the promotion. He's okay but not very good at anything. Can't wait til we get more of DWB, I'm enjoying him more each week. Tim Horner is a guilty pleasure. Such a horrible promo, but such a solid worker in the ring. Dixie Dy-no-mite is an annoying gimmick, and I feel like the lesser of the Armstrong is under the mask thus far. Ditto Killer Kyle, I just don't care for the guy at all. Jobber doing a third rate Mr. Hughes gimmick. Danny Davis is still a good worker, but his looks is just bad, again, looks like a jobber with these thights. I wish they would do more with him though. I did not care one bit for Jimmy Golden vs Robert Gibson, but turning this into a tag feud will get things better.
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Very good vignette. Now this is some southern trash between two dirty men.
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Me too. Continuity. Now, I kinda look forward to Stud Stable vs Rock'n Roll Express. -
Jimmy Golden does nothing for me. Just a dull brawler. Don't care about this feud at all, although Ricky Morton coming back should get things better.
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A few things there. First, Bob Armstrong is one of the best authority figure I've seen. Stern, great on the mic, credible. Second, Cornette takes a great bump out of throwing a fit, it's hilarious. What strikes me in this segment is how lively and organic it is. Today, everything is : one guy talks on the mic, then another guy talks on the mic, then the other guy respond, and everything is awkward and looks fake. Here, things happen in the ring, everyone is reacting to what's being said, Cornette is talking whether he's given the mic or not, it feels "real", it flows. This is so refreshing compared to the dull monologues exchanges that we have on TV now.
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My girlfriend says yes. As a wrestling fan, I think it's ridiculous. If Vince wanted to make Rey Mysterio the Man, he would. He has just as much (well, more infact) charisma as John Cena, he could move merch like crazy with kids, he could have moved the spanish speaking audience, he's a superior worker. The "pseudo-sport" aspect is so irrelevant at this point. Plus as Ric Flair would do, you cut them legs and those giants don't look so big flat on their backs. Pro-wrestling is perception only. If you train people to think that Rey Mysterio is the Man, they will accept it as the guy is capable of playing the part.
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That's why the + is there. He had the supreme IT anyway. Like I previously said, he was also crazy over in New Japan too. Then came the WWF marketing machine, which propelled him even higher in term of global overness.
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Not where I get them anyway..... But I think so, yes. Maybe I'm mistaken.
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This. At some point, I'm willing to give Hogan all the credit he deserves, and he's been given plenty in the last 5 or 6 years, but one as to also accept the fact that WWF marketing machine + intangible IT made Hogan what he became. Not his great talent. He had more IT than anyone else before and after him (until The Rock came on scene). When you're over to that degree, the quality of the match doesn't matter at all.
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Cena winning *in the context of the match* doesn't bother me. As a one night stand, I thought it was awesome from start to finish. In context, the finish is totally retarded of course. Hogan hulking up at WM 5 and shitting on Savage's elbow and rolling up the match in one big boot and one legdrop really kills the match to me.
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The video package is awesome, grainy picture and all. It does make look like Garvin like a guy from another era completely though, but it's still great to look at. The music is boss too. Ron Wright is gold.
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I can only imagine for the guys who went through the old NWA for years, then WCW with the great 1992 and early 1994, Flair, Steamboat, Dangerous Alliance, Dustin, Austin, Pillman, Vader, how they must have felt at this moment. My heart would have sunk. I don't think they would have picture that the next Starrcade would be main-evented by Brutus Beefcake though.
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I don't think anyone here is saying Brock would have made a monstruous, historical buyrate anyway. Especially since like you said the writers suck anyway and they can't book to save their life. Still, Brock vs Cena built for the second biggest show of the year would have made probably a bigger buyrate than normal, and it was common sense to at least *try* to make the most out of him. Instead, they hotshot the big match on the B-PPV following a ridiculous WM. Lesnar was probably not worth that kind of money, especially in non-competitive landscape, but they did exactly the contrary of what they should have done to at least try, just try to make the most out of the investment.
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Well, some people thought it was a good idea to rush through stuff with Lesnar to get "the most out of him right away". Some people thought Cena beating Lesnar was a good idea too. Where's the "burning money" banner again ?
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I would agree. Plus you don't fuck with the Brazilians. It's a rather dangerous place.
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Yet another great promo by Landell. Dutch is such a sleazeball, turning his coat as soon as Horner jumps into the ring. Man, Horner can show some fire at least, I'm surprised.
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Hey, Rugged Ronnie Garvin. He was only 41 then ? He could have had another run in WCW easily.
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Because it was a great gimmick and it suited Landell perfectly. Got a kick of him getting introduced as "The Real Nature Noy" in SMW.
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Money promo from Cornette here. This is what he means by "wrestling the way it used to be". Serious stuff there. Love it.
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That's an interesting remark. I agree Cena has "brand" tatooed on his forehead, whereas Hogan looked like he was bigger than wrestling itself. The fact he was a big star in AWA and New Japan before going to WWF probably helps.
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Flair was a second rate Buddy Rogers too. So... Landell is the lost worker of the 80-90's. If personnal issues and bad decision didn't fuck him up, he would be remembered as one of the greatest. I have that much faith just from the snippets of brillance you get from him everywhere he went.
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Hunter : "See, I told you, Brock isn't a draw, he failed miserably. I should go over him clean at Summer Slam."
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You're not missing anything, that's it. Great spectacle. As far as pure work goes... not so great, but that really wasn't the point. It was meant to be an awesome spectacle, and it succeeded in that respect in more ways than I thought it would. Brock was a great heel, Cena did what he does best, which is sell. That's all there is to it really, but that's enough to make it a great wrestling moment to me. Maybe it doesn't hold up on rewatch though. Now that the excitement over Brock has, well, dropped dead, and knowing the retardation of the finish (and what followed) may hurt the perception of the match in retrospect. I dunno. It looked great when it happened.
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Landell is the lost worker of the 90's. Great promo, excellent worker. Sad.