El-P
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This was nowhere as good as the one with Steamboat the previous week. It was fine though, Sting finally looks like The Man in WCW.
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WCW Saturday Night with guest host Bill Fralic. Do you think Ross is gonna talk about wrestling ? I'm dying.
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Awesome.
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Frankly, Ross was at times totally unbearable with the college sports/football references. And in 1992 when he was announcing alone, he could be a total shill putting over his hotline time and time again during the broadcast.
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Two things from the Timeline ECW 1995 with Sandman : _his adorable little kid giving him a hug, and you really wish Sandman would get things together and not fuck things up _hat's off to the editor
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Can you picture a tag-team called Control Segment ?s Masked guys. One is called Heat and the other one Shine. Shine can never get any offense on the babyface and only sells, while Heat always dominates the babyface. I swear Russo could have done it, with the announcers going all winky-winky.
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Holy shit. Larry Zbyszko and Nikita Koloff going 20 minutes in a 2/3 falls. Just terrible. 3/4 of the match consisting of restholds. Horrible match, just a retarded booking idea. Koloff is just brutal. Brutal promos, brutal work. Totally worthless. Why was he even brought back after being such a flop in 91 ?
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"Where the big boys play" was the official tag line of WCW at this point. "This is the greatest Nitro in the history of our sport" is the vintage Schiavone line. Anyway, to me Schiavone was still really good at least until 96. His call on Hogan at Bash at the Beach is one of the best ever (in the history of our sport). No way he was *that* bad in 98. He could be really bad on occasion, yes, but E/D grade are good for scrubs like Cole or Madden. By 99, the announcing in WCW went to hell, but so did the entire promotion. No one cared. Schiavone/Ventura is still my favourite WCW announcing team, and I'd take it over pretty much anything.
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Sounds pretty awful. Micheal Cole is clearly one of the worst wrestling announcer of all time by this point. I would never has guessed it way back in the late 90's, as he was not good but pretty inoffensive then.
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Ok, I'm not watching the show anymore, so can one enlighten me on what happened involving Wendy Richter ?
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The Saturday Night show with the talk-show format is interesting. It's different. I enjoyed interviews with Simmons and broken-face Steamboat, it comes off more legit than the "backstage skits" that have overstayed their welcome by a long long time now. To think there basically hasn't been any change to wrestling TV format in the last 12-14 years is pretty depressing. The 2/3 falls match every week is a bad idea though. Very bad idea. This stipulation only works when you do really long match anyway, on a short TV format it forces the workers to get stupid quick pin à la Survivor Series, and it's lame. Plus I don't want to suffer through Nikita Koloff doing 2/3 falls match. I don't want to see the Freebirds do 2/3 falls matches. God, the Freebirds were unbearable at this point. They had their up and downs since they formed the Hayes/Garvin team in late 89, but they are solidly back into my shitlist. They made Taylor/Valentine boring to watch, and I like Taylor/Valentine a lot. They are just no fun at all, on any level. Hell, I've seen a Vinnie Vegas/DDP vs Simmons/JYD match that was more fun than this. Can't wait until they finally go away. Michael Hayes is embarrassing, fat, balding, doing a shitty moonwalk and horrible pseudo-glam rock gimmick in 1992. Even PN News seems relevant compared to Hayes at this point. He's already Dok Hendrix.
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Argumenting by Alvy : "Listen :" + talk very loud to underline his point
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Z-Man & Pillman vs MX was a really good little feud. Southern Boys vs MX had amazing matches. Yes, when it came down to the Patriots, that sucked, but they didn't get the belts very long, and at that time I agree the titles were beginning to not mean that much. Quicky title switch from the Young Pistols (who were an excellent team as the Southern Boys, only got killed by the gimmick change and heel turn) to Ron Simmons & Big Josh, which is pretty random, but hey, stupid gimmick aside, any title on Matt Borne I'm fine with. Then onto Greg Valentine & Terry Taylor which is pretty neat. Like I said there wasn't that many tag teams anymore, so the titles had to go away, and they did. But back in 89/90, the number of tag teams was huge, so it had a justification then.
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At one time there were so many teams around that they could really bring something to the undercards. Kinda like the All Asia Tag Team Titles in AJ. The US tag team titles matches were mostly quite fun until the end, which is coming very soon.
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He was. Changed his name after he left the York Foundation (which ended the gimmick, damn, no more Terri Runnels badly dressed as a secretary). There was really not gimmick to it to be fair. Terry Taylor was always an arrogant asshole to begin with, so naming himself the Taylor Made Man was a cute name without any repercussion on his work or character. Hell, at least he got pushed a bit and got a belt as opposed to the York Foundation days (which I enjoyed a lot because it garanteed a good match on every TV show, unless Tommy Rich was working single of course). I love Valentine, and he's one of those guys who can age and deliver the same offense than 15 years prior really. Just an old grumpy stiff fuck. I wish he had more of a role during the decade infact. I was glad to see him work a few matches during the Nitro era too.
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The first few months of 1992 are pretty great as far as TV matches go. The Dangerous Alliance really was the über workrate heel group. Madusa had the oddest fashion sense ever however. I know it fot her character as being a bit of a loon, but some of those outfit just hurt the eyes. I'm loving Greg Valentine teaming with Terry Taylor. Taylor has been one of the most consistent worker on TV since he turned heel, and Valentine just doesn't age. Good stuff with the US belts, although I'm fearing the matches with the Freebirds, who just reached a new point of unwatchability with their new theme song and look. Fun to witness the humble beginnings of Marcus Bagwell. Strange to think they waited so long before turning him heel, because you already wants to slap the fuck out of his pretty boy mouth. JYD and Nikita Koloff coming back isn't good. The Light heavyweight division is sad, but it's pretty funny to hear JR blabber the same crap he used to do in WWF in 97/98 about a light heavyweight division that should get more and more exciting names and should grow in the very near future. Yeah, when you get Johnny B. Badd and Brad Armstrong as "light heavyweight", you feel the difference with a usual match. It's pretty shocking to see Scott Levy so young and healthy looking. He was already a fun promo though.
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Agreed. Does nothing for me. Beyond forced facials. Mechanically fine > see also / Orton, Randy
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After finishing 1992, I can safely say I was really pleasantly surprised after a rather cold first few weeks. I didn't think I would enjoy it as much as I did. There's not much in term of really great match, but there's a shitload of excellent promos every week, and I enjoy the veterans like Garvin and Orndorff a lot. The Heavenly Bodies are the clear highlight in term of work. Rock'n Roll Express reunited set a new fire under Ricky Morton after a last few disapointing months in WCW as a heel light heavyweight. I don't mind the Horner push, he's a terrible promo but there's something charming about his out of date bland southern babyface character, and DWB is excellent. Didn't care at all about Brian Lee though. The only time he was useful to me was when he was stabbed to near death by Sullivan in a great angle. Killer Kyle is also a FF element to me. Too bad Bob Holly left so soon, as I'd liked for him to have competetive matches in this setting.
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IT'S NOT HOT ! is the greatest Hogan line ever.
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Don't ask me why, but I really enjoyed those vignettes. Always was a fan of Fatu, and I was glad he was coming back as a single wrestler and not playing a savage.
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Yes, he did teach when he wasn't wrestling. He was thinking going back into teaching full-time after leaving WCW in 93.
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I have, and it didn't strike me at the time. Odd.
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One UWF-I match I've always wanted to watch back in the days. -
Yeah, Mr. T in 1994. Hogan is so pop culture aware.
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In what ways ? Certainly not in his work. I haven't seen any Portland, so maybe I'm missing something, but I never thought about Piper hearing one of Bourne's promos like I did with Dr. Tom.