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The other edition's eliminations made alot more sense. I just watched TE 1 and TE 3 in the last few days and I think they are overall better. The shows are only 30 minutes so they fly by and by the end, you feel for everyone. They all end up seeming like mostly decent people and they aren't made to look like idiots. If someone looked like they needed to go, then they did and early! That's my biggest problem with this season as everyone except for 3 guys has been pushed as a loser and incompetent. What is also interesting is that they had them learning double the moves in half the time as this crew. Even Bill Demott seemed like a decent guy in season 3. I'm sick of Trish on this show. Just shut up Trish, please. You never annoyed me until this show.

The Superstar. Also, add Manabu Nakanishi to the Torture Rack list.

I got that too but didn't know it was from there. Really hope Bryan gets on that. The ads have been super annoying lately too.

Didn't he bypass the English classes along with developmental? The only people backstage who could understand him would be Rey and I'm guessing probably Chavo/Vickie. Also isn't it likely if he is talking about taking masks/hair it's because only someone booked as a top guy like he was would have taken as many as he did. It's kind of a "shoot accomplishment" in a way since it's a sign of how big a draw someone is in Mexico. I'm pretty sure he's living in Tampa and probably goes to FCW to study english/WWE style on his off days. I saw him at a FCW house show a couple weeks ago. I'd pay to see an english class sponsored by people like Eli Cottonwood.

Superstars is a bottom of the card show(more like PTW without Heenan/Monsoon), not a squash match show and not that many jobbers were on it. Also, there were no serious angles on there. Have John Cena on there squashing nobodies and the rating might have raised, but with the formula they used, it was doomed to fail.

Jobber matches really need to come back. There are many great things about them: 1 - None of your stars ever have to job again. This would do wonders for people like the Woo Woo guy(I know his name, but I like this one better), Bourne, Dragon and anyone else under 6'2/250. 2 - The star usually looks good. They look dominant and make you wonder what they would do against other superstars. They also lessen the gap from midcarders and main eventers. 3 - The star becomes the focus of the match more so than they would in a regular match. 4 - Less bumps and less injury risks for your main stars. I'm also totally for 6-mans and more tags as they are usually better than single matches but unfortunately, Vince has programmed his audience to think that tags don't matter. Less wear & tear/less ringtime are also great reasons for more tags as well. This has been one of my theories for years. With all this said, I still don't expect to see more jobber matches. WWE cares about ratings and giving away big matches for free on tv for meaningless .1's, not sensible and careful booking.

Not to derail this thread, but why is that? Just curious. It's been scandal after scandal for a little while now. Last year a bunch of guys got caught up in a gambling scandal including an Ozeki(2nd highest rank). The biggest scandal is match fixing via cellphones. Even though it's well known that people take pay offs to lose, the media really got a hold of it. Then because of it, the Spring tournament got cancelled and 22 guys retired. Also, within the last year, the yokozuna Asashoryu was forced to resign due to a drunken fight. The last few years had some other bad issues too with a guy in a sumo stable getting beaten to death and people getting caught with marijuana(Japan is serious about drugs).

I think the best description about his booking that I ever heard was: "He is a person who remembers all of the great WWF angles of the 1980's but completely forgot how they got there and what happened afterwards". I can't stand him. I've watched wrestling on TV for years and the only show that I refuse to watch is TNA. It's the worst wrestling show ever. I would watch GWF, CZW, HUSTLE, GLOW or just about anything before TNA. Here are my issues with his shows: - Everytime I watch TNA I see nothing but authority figures arguing over who is more powerful or women screaming at each other. Right around when Hogan started, he had 7 different authority figures. - He cannot book a clean finish to save his life. It doesn't matter what the match is, someone must interfere or cheat or a ref must take a bump. - His love of gimmick matches. At one point during a span of 3-4 months, he booked more gimmick matches than normal matches. - No one on his shows ever get along with their partners. - I watch his shows and end up more confused than before. I literally have to question myself when watching it about every 5 minutes. Bryan Alvarez takes pages of notes on the shows and still has no idea what's going on most of the time. - The constant turns are quite confusing. A guy on wrestlecrap counted something like 54+ turns in 40 weeks of watching TNA(starting from the Hogan era). Anytime I watch it, I have to debate with myself on who the face is. - Within the last few weeks he booked a show with a total of 17 seconds of wrestling in the first hour and 10 minutes of wrestling overall. - All the dropped/forgotten storylines. I'm still waiting for the information on the storyline about the Pope's dogs and still wanting to know who kidnapped Joe. Those are just a few reasons, but that gives you some of my issues with him. He's an enemy of wrestling and I can't until he gets fired.

They were still doing them as late as the TNN era, with the same theme music and everything. I wonder why nobody else has every really tried to do this montage-style of promo? It seems like every company out there has this standard pattern where they air the promos unedited and in their entirerty. (Which is often a huge goddamn waste of time; does Triple H ever really need twenty minutes to keep sloooowly repeating the same points over and over again?) The only modern company I've seen which even slightly experimented with changing up the standard format was Wrestle Society X, but even they weren't trying anything too unusual. Hey I agree with you. I'm sick of these 20 minute chat sessions, especially to open the show! Don't even get me started on TNA where they could only squeeze in 10 minutes of wrestling on a show a little bit ago with only 17 seconds of wrestling in the first hour. I'd love to see the return of the ECW style promos. It was right in the style of what wrestling should be - quick, simple and to the point.

I really don't think Warrior is as bad as everyone makes him out to be. He plays his gimmick really well and wrestles just like he should. He was also involved in alot of good matches

I won't rate, but I'll tell you my thoughts on these: AWA - I've enjoyed most of what I've seen. Even the later years are fine by me. Just simple stuff that's really easy to understand. I love the time around 1980 with tons of different characters and the awesomeness of Alfred Hayes and Bobby Heenan. I also am super into the Original Midnight Express. Memphis - Love it. Really easy stuff to get and I love Lawler. Lance Russell is the man and I can watch their shows easier than any other promotion ever. Lord Humongous(the original) and Macho Man were also amazing and the 1983 timespan had some awesome shows. WCCW - I love the Ultimate Warrior so the era with him is probably my favorite. I'm a huge Von Erich's fan as wrestling families are always really cool to me. I also enjoyed the dying USWA days with Adams and Austin having the greatest feud ever. Florida/Georgia/Portland - Haven't seen much. NJ - Not really interested in it. I like Inoki/Tiger and some of the UWF guys, but not really interested in watching it anymore than I already have. AJ - I love how you never know who's going to come next. They had everybody from my boy Tom Magee to Raja Lion and Ron Fuller. Joshi - I like seeing some of the stars before they were stars and I've enjoyed alot of the Dump stuff. I enjoy seeing all of the forgotten girls of the original JWP too. Lucha - Not alot is available but I liked what I saw. I love 6-mans and colorful characters so I know I'd love it if there was more. Continental - Love it. Great stuff with the Studd Stable being kings as always. The one episode of them floating around from December 1984 is one of my favorites ever. I also enjoyed Detroit Demolition. Europe - I love the llave style of wrestling so I love this too. The more complicated and crazier matwork the better. Steve Wright also owns you and DK is ton's of fun. WWF - Easily my favorite. Gave me some of my favorites like Demolition and The Warrior. I'm in to most of their wrestlers too. I love pretty much anything from this decade as the pre-expansion era days were great too with awesome promos and the Wiz. 1990 is my favorite year though. Mid Atlantic - I find their stuff on 24/7 really boring. I can't sit through those tv shows. UWF/Midsouth - Haven't scene a bunch of it, but I don't have alot of favorites from that region so it's probably not for me. I really didn't like the 80's set from this too much aside from a few matches. GLOW - I like all the goofy gimmicks and easy to understand characters. The wrestling is not top notch but there's some decent matches sometimes and the rap songs were great. Spanish Red is totally hot and Ninotchka played her role great. Also have to give it up to the Housewives who should have had a longer run. I swear you could give any wrestler, even Kane himself, a rap song and they would be 100 times more entertaining.

I agree but I'd also like to point out that if you are not in with the common opinion, no matter how good your matches are, your opponent will be the one who made them so good.

500 discs is really nothing for people who trade regularly. I've seen about 5% of my footage at best, so there's easily a few thousand disks I've owned that I've never watched. But in my defense, I don't have the patience to sit through alot of wrestling stuff anymore. Too much going on and I'd rather talk about wrestling on the board or listen to Alvarez. It's kind of hard to judge one's fandom against another. I think alot of it depends on real life circumstances, location and wrestling tastes. Hardcore japanese fans have cracked over 130 shows a year and I'm sure mexican fans could do that even easier, while I will probaby see less than 5 this year. I think anyone posting regularly on a message board though should be considered hardcore. However, since there's not alot of wrestling fans all around, if you want to discuss wrestling, message boards are all there is. I'm definitely not as hardcore as I used to be. I really don't go to live events as they are too expensive or too far. The lowest price for WWE events is around $40 and it's not worth it, same with indy's at $20. I can download any event I want for free, so it really doesn't make sense especially when the camera's view is always better than mine. I've slowed down trading bigtime and I don't download anything that's not a shoot interview. I used to go to wrestlemania and japan every year, but wrestlemania's aren't what they used to be. I'll move to japan next year(though wrestling has little to do with it). I have few lasting interests besides wrestling/internet/women though, so I'm probably going to always stick with wrestling no matter how bad it gets. I probably fit in most with some of the people's tastes on DVDVR. I usually watch old joshi and raw but I probably spend the most time watching promo's/short videos along with random one-off's. Anything more than 10 minutes to me though is an immediate skip. I love flashy/colorful costume wrestlers, anyone that kicks and new wrestlers that I haven't been overexposed to yet. I also want to say that I would probably enjoy some of the things I don't enjoy if I was watching it in person. Everything seems to suck less live.

I have the WCW dvd's, but never watched them or his run there. Yeah the Garvin feud was good if not for Garvin's all time hilarious introduction of Valentine at Summerslam alone.

Well Haku is a huge internet favorite and one of my favorite wrestlers and I don't think anyone would say Badd Company sucked.

Dino Bravo was unmotivated right from the start. He's easily my pick for worst WWF wrestler of the 80's, just awful, slow and boring. One of my most hated WWF 80's wrestlers alongside Valentine(after 86) and Ron Bass. Those guys are always instant FF'ers. Ken Patera is definitely on the list as well, but he admits he was depressed and could have cared less.

Hey, no ripping on Jerry Flynn. I enjoyed his match with Goldberg.

Confirmation, my ass. Yeah, I was only a main event box office draw for, like, 25 years or something. But there were those two years where Sayama drew RATINGS~! BAY-BEE~! so clearly he's the bigger all-time star. Hey, Tatsumi, weren't we the guys who actually drew the house on 4/21/83? And, like, a bajillion other houses? Yeah, but he was a ratings draw and moved merch for two years. He was like the best possible New Age Outlaws, but without Road Dogg's crisp execution. Hey, where does the line start? How many dome shows did this guy headline? How many times did he sell out the Budokan? At least he's the second biggest star ever to work the Tiger Mask gimmick. Hell, I have a longer run as a bigger star AND a longer run of tricking Meltzer into thinking I'm not a useless piece of shit in the ring! Hey, guys! What's going on over here? First of all, what I mean by over is like known to the general public or famous. Have you ever been to Japan SLL? If not, then how do you know? If I had to have a top 5 of wrestlers that the general public in Japan would know it would be: Hokuto/Sasaki, Inoki, Tiger with maybe the Crush Girls(Though no one under 35 would know them) and maybe Rikidozan for older people/wrestling fans. Believe me that Misawa, Mutoh, Choshu, Fujinami and especially Hashimoto are not on that list. Baba would be known by older people/wrestling fans but I'm not sure how known he'd be with younger people.

Well the original series is a good mix of both humour and drama but Ultimate Muscle(Which aired in english in the US) is more drama. Either way, you want all of it!

A reality TV show is where it's at. Put some of the boys and some of the divas in a house and roll that beautiful bean footage. Put some of the WWE legends like Iron Sheik and Dusty Rhodes in their own reality show and that's where it's really at.

If you guys like the tiger mask anime, you need to see Kinnikuman asap. It is my view of what wrestling should be. It's the wackiest and greatest stuff ever. You have rip-offs of every famous wrestler from the 1980's, wrestlers who eat their opponents like noodles to settle grudges(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91HCNNaSs3I) and wrestling urinals: (What are you doing?? Eww!!) I also want to point out to this day that Tiger Mask is super over in Japan and probably only second to Inoki.

Hey, good for Jerry. She's legal and hot. I'm 22 and I don't think I'd have a shot at her, yet alone at 61.

Goldberg was the man for sure. Listen to the crowds then, they were super loud and popped for long periods of times. Pretty amazing how WCW blew it.

The fact is that there are no real interesting or appealing mania matches left. We've seen them all already for the most part. I am interested in Punk and Orton though thanks to Punk who's been on fire. I also noticed that Punk and Barrett have switched roles from earlier this year. Punk was the guy in a group going nowhere feuding against the Big Show, while Wade was keeping on top of the show with Nexus. Now Wade is sinking on SD with a group feuding with the Big Show, while Punk is owning Raw with Nexus. I blame some of that on the booking of the Big Show as he's going to be booked to win most of his matches due to his size.

I agree with this. Goldust could have been a fun challenger and a program with Michaels would have been good, but I think the gimmick was too over the top to carry the company. I agree that he was NEVER going to be the face of the company but that is entirely different than asking whether or not he could have become a legit champion. Why would you have Goldust winning the belt? What would it accomplish? And why wouldn't you choose one of the other options available at that time?