anarchistxx Posted March 18, 2014 Report Posted March 18, 2014 Agreed, Stephanie has always been way better than someone like Vicki Guerrero, who I'm astonished was on television for that long. She's had more years with WWE in a prominent role than Eddie did. Steph had the whiny, immature 'daddy's little girl' schtick down to a tee in 2000.
Russellmania Posted March 18, 2014 Report Posted March 18, 2014 Before this whole thing runs its course I really hope we get an angle where Bryan drives out to the ring in a tanker truck ala Austin and Angle and sprays down the Authority, Batista, and Orton with a kale smoothie.
FedEx227 Posted March 18, 2014 Report Posted March 18, 2014 I'm hoping he gives them a "bloodbath"-style shower of flakseed.
Loss Posted March 18, 2014 Report Posted March 18, 2014 Threads for RAW stuff last night if anyone wants to go in detail on anything. I've posted my thoughts in the respective threads: Â - HHH, Batista and Randy Orton - The Usos vs Real Americans - Daniel Bryan vs Randy Orton - Paul Heyman promo/Undertaker and Brock Lesnar video - Kane, Jerry Lawler and The Shield - Music Video: John Cena vs Bray Wyatt - HHH and Daniel Bryan: Man To Man
Coffey Posted March 18, 2014 Report Posted March 18, 2014 Wow, great idea Loss. I was going to say with WWE firing on all cylinders lately that a live thread would have been fun but I think that's better. I came here to fawn over the show and seeing those links to those threads made me realize I had even forgotten some of the great stuff from this show.
anarchistxx Posted March 18, 2014 Report Posted March 18, 2014 Isn't it better just having a thread for the individual show? Bit of an effort to post thoughts in five different topic, and must be a lot of work to put it all together, especially if you are going to do it for multiple shows a week.
Loss Posted March 18, 2014 Report Posted March 18, 2014 Not really. We've been doing this for the 90s since 2010, now we're expanding it to current wrestling and other parts of wrestling history.
goc Posted March 18, 2014 Report Posted March 18, 2014 So help me understand the logic behind drowning = ok, choking with a tie = fired. I don't really give a shit but it does seem kind of silly after there was such a big stink about the tie incident that they have they have the "COO" doing that while his wife yells drown him.
anarchistxx Posted March 18, 2014 Report Posted March 18, 2014 It was only a big deal because Linda was running for the senate at the time and they didn't want the bad press, especially since it could have been equated to the Benoit thing.
Loss Posted March 18, 2014 Report Posted March 18, 2014 The choking thing having anything to do with Linda McMahon's campaign is only speculation and has never been confirmed by anyone reputable. It may be true, but we shouldn't speak about it like it is for sure. They have been rehabbing their image for years now in an attempt to attract more high-dollar sponsors. And they still don't allow choking, in part because of the possibility of kids copying what they see on TV. It's not just Benoit -- think about it. A kid chokes another kid to death and says in court he was just copying what he saw in WWE.
(BP) Posted March 18, 2014 Report Posted March 18, 2014 Didn't an unnamed sponsor, probably Mattel, complain about the tie choking?
Loss Posted March 18, 2014 Report Posted March 18, 2014 That was also pure speculation and Mattel denied it.
Ryan Faulconer Posted March 18, 2014 Report Posted March 18, 2014 Good thing WWE shields us from choking moves. I guess it is okay to kick someone's face off or drop someone on their head. Â I'm not particularly invested in the topic but WWE's random pattern when it comes to "safety first" is just terrific. Thanks for sorta-not-really caring WWE.
(BP) Posted March 18, 2014 Report Posted March 18, 2014 They're also okay with choking as long as it's followed by a slam.
(BP) Posted March 19, 2014 Report Posted March 19, 2014 Undertaker should've stuck with the white beard this year. Besides it looking cool, it would've played up the aging Taker story they're going for.
Strummer Posted March 19, 2014 Report Posted March 19, 2014 As many have pointed out Orton and Batista were hilarious last night. Orton had some great lines. "Take that back!" As a whole WWE comedy has been clicking lately. Probably because great comedy can come frustration and anger and I'd imagine that's what some backstage are feeling now
Boon Posted March 19, 2014 Report Posted March 19, 2014 I'm wondering whether Bryan-Trips goes to a draw of some sorts and they both are inserted I to the main event. Bryan wins and we get Bryan-Trips at Extreme Rules? Â Also that way you have to wait even longer for a Daniel win on the night...
(BP) Posted March 21, 2014 Report Posted March 21, 2014 Why haven't they ever done a blinding angle with Cena? "No John, you can't see me!" Low hanging fruit I guess. It'd also have to end in a blindfold match, which would be ghastly.
Russellmania Posted March 21, 2014 Report Posted March 21, 2014 I'm wondering whether Bryan-Trips goes to a draw of some sorts and they both are inserted I to the main event. Bryan wins and we get Bryan-Trips at Extreme Rules? Â Also that way you have to wait even longer for a Daniel win on the night... the thought occurred to me that Bryan might lose through some nefarious means and then later be inserted into the main event anyway by Vince.
cm funk Posted March 21, 2014 Report Posted March 21, 2014 Bray Wyatt is very underwhelming to me, and doesn't deserve such a big Wrestlemania slot in the slightest. His character is like something you would see in an embarassing fifth rate made for television horror movie, I've seen more believable characters in backyard wrestling. Ridiculous corny and they overplay it. That character has no legs long term unless they change it up.  Could not disagree more. "reality" in terms of this character doesn't matter, because he's completely divorced from reality. He's a crazy lunatic. Whether you believe in the character or not, it doesn't matter, because HE believes in it. He's crazy. That's the gimmick.  I think the Wyatts have been booked pretty flawlessly overall. Bray cuts a great promo and he's starting to show some really good skills in the ring. I was actually a Husky Harris fan, thought he showed a ton of potential when he actually got to wrestle, so I'm not surprised he's become so good. He's still very young too. Definitely a guy and character they can build around for the next decade.  And you know, yeah it's a little cartoonish gimmick wise, but it's also pretty edgy. Perfect "monster" for modern WWE which is primarily marketed to kids. I grew up watching cartoony WWF, and I like that they have a "cartoon" gimmick like this peppered in with the "real" wrestlers.  I'd make the comparison to Umaga, a gimmick that got destroyed by "smart" fans at the start until people realized he was a great wrestler and totally owning the role. I think the same will hold true with Bray, and even the people who hate "cartoon gimmicks" will come around  Also, I've been pleasantly surprised by both Rowan and Harper as workers. Rowan had the knock of being a useless stiff, and he isn't at all. He's very good in his role and the matches booked to keep him in the pocket. I've also noticed steady improvement from him, and could be a Kane type that develops into a really solid worker over time. Harper I thought looked bad the first few months, but something clicked with him and now he's fantastic. The two 6 mans with The Shield are IMO the best WWE matches of the year so far, and the Wyatts more than held up their ends in the work department
Loss Posted March 21, 2014 Report Posted March 21, 2014 My main problem with the Wyatts is that they've never really said what their motivation is for being in WWE. We get it, you're a cult. So why are you a cult in wrestling? Â That's not unique to the Wyatts. I used to think the same thing about the Undertaker when he was starting out many moons ago. But I wish somewhere in all that promo time he'd explain why he's in WWE. Â I also think it hurts their aura to talk about how they came through NXT. It humanizes them too much, like they are just aspiring WWE superstars playing a gimmick.
Russellmania Posted March 21, 2014 Report Posted March 21, 2014 But they developed the whole Wyatt family gimmick in NXT, so it's not a big deal to say something like 'they couquered NXT before moving on to WWE'. Acknowleding that Bray was Husky Harris before that kind of hurts the whole vibe, but at some point you just have to draw the line re: suspension of disbelief i guess. Â As for why they're in WWE...I think with this type of gimmick you can sort of just assume that they're in WWE because they're crazy and wrestling is a business in which they can be as crazy as they want to be, hurt people, and make a living doing it.
Loss Posted March 21, 2014 Report Posted March 21, 2014 I just wish they would come out and say that. Fans shouldn't have to do guesswork on anything.
cm funk Posted March 21, 2014 Report Posted March 21, 2014 Does a character like Bray really need explicit motivation? He's a delusional megalomaniac.
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