Cox Posted November 11, 2014 Report Posted November 11, 2014 Man, I would have loved to have been in the room when somebody from WWE explained to Vince what "Grumpy Cat" is.
shoe Posted November 11, 2014 Report Posted November 11, 2014 You could really build Ryback here . Have him win by going like 3 vs.1 and being the sole survivor. Heat him up for Rumble and Brock. If they aren't going to resign Brock put Ryback over him at Rumble.
WingedEagle Posted November 11, 2014 Report Posted November 11, 2014 Its great in theory, but they've already pushed Cena/Brock at Rumble. If they're not resigning Brock you wonder if they have to have him drop it before Mania.
shoe Posted November 11, 2014 Report Posted November 11, 2014 Brock has to drop it before Mania if he's not signed.
Russellmania Posted November 11, 2014 Report Posted November 11, 2014 Brock is signed *through* Mania, right? Why can't he just drop it then? Someone trying to be the one to finally slay the beast at WM is the biggest storyline they could run with right now so I hope they aren't dumb enough to bail on that idea before WM.
WingedEagle Posted November 11, 2014 Report Posted November 11, 2014 Only reason not to do that is to avoid a repeat of what happened the last time his contract ran through Mania. That type of scene wouldn't do Reigns or whomever beats him a whole lot of good.
Coffey Posted November 11, 2014 Report Posted November 11, 2014 If he's a heel still, does it matter if the crowd hates him? As long as the person that slays him is someone the crowd cares about, not someone force-fed down their throat (Roman Reigns) I still think it would work.
shoe Posted November 11, 2014 Report Posted November 11, 2014 Brock also in his last match at Mania might not be in the mindset of making someone look good. Plus his opponent won't be able to stop him. I think it would be smarter for him to job the title at Rumble and maybe do a job for Ryback at Mania as the new bad ass if he seems up for doing business.
Russellmania Posted November 11, 2014 Report Posted November 11, 2014 Brock has done nothing but good, honest business for WWE since his return, including some pretty questionable jobs a couple years ago when most people thought he should have been not losing to anyone. I genuinely don't think you have to worry about him doing the job for someone at WM.
WingedEagle Posted November 11, 2014 Report Posted November 11, 2014 I have no doubt Brock will do exactly what he is paid to do per his contract, including jobbing for that cat hosting next week if they ask him to. But 60-70K fans crapping all over the match because they all know its his last night wouldn't exactly make for a pretty coronation of Reigns. No guarantees it happens, but I also don't see how you can rule it out.
Coffey Posted November 11, 2014 Report Posted November 11, 2014 I don't think it'll be a very nice coronation for Reigns anyway. He might be hand-picked by the powers that be but he wasn't by the fans. I like Reigns but he was exposed when The Shield broke up.
Russellmania Posted November 11, 2014 Report Posted November 11, 2014 I have no doubt Brock will do exactly what he is paid to do per his contract, including jobbing for that cat hosting next week if they ask him to. But 60-70K fans crapping all over the match because they all know its his last night wouldn't exactly make for a pretty coronation of Reigns. No guarantees it happens, but I also don't see how you can rule it out. yes but I'm not saying it should be Reigns at all. In a perfect world it would be Bryan but who knows if he'll be back by then. If Bryan is healthy he should be the guy. Fans will have no problem getting behind him against Brock and the match would probably be extremely good. Reigns is going to have an uphill battle no matter who the opponent is. Personally I think the best use of the Shield guys would be a triple threat to blow off the Shield thing once and for all. Although I saw a suggestion somewhere that a fatal 4-way elimination match with the 3 Shield guys and Brock would be really cool. Imagine the 3 forming an alliance to triple powerbomb Brock and eliminate him first. The crowd would be so hot for the rest of the match after that.
shoe Posted November 11, 2014 Report Posted November 11, 2014 Brock has done nothing but good, honest business for WWE since his return, including some pretty questionable jobs a couple years ago when most people thought he should have been not losing to anyone. I genuinely don't think you have to worry about him doing the job for someone at WM. Their are different ways to job to someone. It's how you job is the key. If he worked a match like the 1st Cena match from earlier in the year, but jobbed at the end will that elevate his opponent? Heck no. The crowd reaction is another thing if he's leaving. It might get ugly. Their are a lot of what ifs with Brock. He also did honest business because he was at the start of a contract. When you're leaving the motivation isn't there except how you motivate your self.
shoe Posted November 11, 2014 Report Posted November 11, 2014 If your not going to be there. The care factor isn't there. It's like your last day on the job.
Russellmania Posted November 12, 2014 Report Posted November 12, 2014 Except why would Brock burn that bridge when there's a very good chance they could bring him back in the future? In fact if pro sports have shown us anything it's that there's actually *more* incentive to perform at the end of a contract because you want to maximize your value on future contracts. Brock easily could have taken the deal they gave him and phoned it in throughout the duration, but he has actually put on some really great performances and done everything they've asked.
EvenStevenBooking Posted November 12, 2014 Report Posted November 12, 2014 People are forgetting how burned out Brock was by WMXX, plus he was still fairly young apparently blowing a lot of his money. Ten years later he's got money to fall back on, a wife he loves and a super easy schedule.
artDDP Posted November 12, 2014 Report Posted November 12, 2014 So from how the Steph/Lana interplay went down, it kind of looks like Rusev might be the one who turns on Team Authority. If that wasn't planting the seed for something, it was quite the ball-chopping of the gimmick. I just took it as Steph having to assert herself over someone else on the roster. And wasn't Grumpy Cat a 2012 thing?
shoe Posted November 12, 2014 Report Posted November 12, 2014 Except why would Brock burn that bridge when there's a very good chance they could bring him back in the future? In fact if pro sports have shown us anything it's that there's actually *more* incentive to perform at the end of a contract because you want to maximize your value on future contracts. Brock easily could have taken the deal they gave him and phoned it in throughout the duration, but he has actually put on some really great performances and done everything they've asked. I'm not saying he's going to sandbag it. I'm just saying it's a possibility. Just like his match at Mania could get shit on if people know he's a lame duck champion. These are things that could happen , not that they are. As a promoter these are ideas that should cross your mind.
Coffey Posted November 12, 2014 Report Posted November 12, 2014 With as smart as the Wrestlemania crowds are, I would figure a "please don't go" chant would be just as likely as any other.
goc Posted November 12, 2014 Report Posted November 12, 2014 All they would have to do with Brock is just play up the reality of the situation. "I'm the champion, my contract is about to expire, no one can beat me and I'm going to take this belt with me when I go"
sek69 Posted November 12, 2014 Report Posted November 12, 2014 All they would have to do with Brock is just play up the reality of the situation. "I'm the champion, my contract is about to expire, no one can beat me and I'm going to take this belt with me when I go" The Summer (Spring?) of Brock, book it Vince!
goc Posted November 12, 2014 Report Posted November 12, 2014 Who cares if it's been done before, everything in wrestling has been done before but the difference is that more than likely it would result in a more genuine heel reaction for his WrestleMania match rather than the Goldberg vs. Brock type of reaction. They HAVE to try and make a new star off of him at WrestleMania or else what the fuck did you pay him all that money for?
EricR Posted November 12, 2014 Report Posted November 12, 2014 You know the Divas are still being graded on a pity curve when consistently having matches without a horrific botch is considered praiseworthy. That's like praising Khali on the grounds that he hasn't killed anybody since arriving in WWE. Seriously, let them have a 20 minute match that the crowd doesn't completely turn on halfway through and then we'll talk. Most guys in WWE could not put on an engaging 20 minute match. 20 minutes is looooong and usually unnecessary for a singles match.
Jimmy Redman Posted November 12, 2014 Report Posted November 12, 2014 That reminds me of a time years ago when someone I was talking to was dissing Kelly Kelly and used "She'd never be able to work a 60 minute broadway" as a 100% serious criticism. Like yeah, her, and how much of the male wrestling population.
Lee Posted November 12, 2014 Report Posted November 12, 2014 And wasn't Grumpy Cat a 2012 thing? WWE as on the ball as ever when it comes to pop culture and internet memes. Just you wait until 2016 when they start going apeshit over those RKO Vines!
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