Loss Posted July 5, 2005 Report Posted July 5, 2005 According to various things Tim and the DVDVR guys have said, he apparently became sort of good at some point. When did this happen? I haven't seen him since 2003, but I know Dave Meltzer bashes him constantly.
sek69 Posted July 5, 2005 Report Posted July 5, 2005 I don't think he's done anything remarkable since leaving WCW, but I don't watch the B shows.
Tim Cooke Posted July 5, 2005 Report Posted July 5, 2005 In terms of working WWE style, he has good punches, good bumping ability, and has been one of the stars of Velocity. His March 2005 match against Doug Basham was a really good 5 minute match. I can try to upload it when I get home if people need to see it. He isn't out of this world but I am sure matches against Rey Jr., Eddy, Doug Basham would be more than worth the time to watch, if he wasn't doing nothing on Raw. Tim
Coffey Posted July 5, 2005 Report Posted July 5, 2005 I never get to watch the "B" shows, so I just assumed that he was still boring and bland. If that's not the case, it's news to me. I thought he stood out the least out of all the Natural Born Thrillers in WCW. I didn't think he'd improved since then. I liked Palumbo, Stasiak, O'Haire, Sanders and even random Reno more than him. If he's getting better, fucking A, I hope WWE capitalizes on it. Of course, I didn't think Garrison Cade was that bad and they sent him back to OVW.
Mad Dog Posted July 5, 2005 Report Posted July 5, 2005 He hasn't done anything that great. I've seen him on Velocity a few times and he's still nothing special from what I've seen.
Guest Bruiser Chong Posted July 5, 2005 Report Posted July 5, 2005 Awesome. Do one on Randy Orton now, Loss.
Guest teke184 Posted July 5, 2005 Report Posted July 5, 2005 If you're going to set the bar that high, Bruiser, choose someone slightly more deserving like JBL.
Guest TheNewAge Posted July 5, 2005 Report Posted July 5, 2005 Doug Basham Vs. Mark Jindrak Posted this over at TSM. Way better than you would think.
Coffey Posted July 6, 2005 Report Posted July 6, 2005 Damnit, I don't give a shit what anyone says, Maven was good! Just look at what he has done in the four years that he's been in WWE. I mean, physique wise and wrestling wise. He had got a lot better. In fact, he was even my most improved wrestler. This really disappoints me. Moreso because I don't think any Indy fed will be interested in him, so he'll probably get out of the business. He even played his role with Simon Dean well, and that was a dead end gimmick. He started using the Lung Blower as a finisher but no one watches Heat so no one got to see it. It even seemed as if he was improving on the microphone. He never really got a fair chance. He could've been something. He had a good look.
Guest teke184 Posted July 6, 2005 Report Posted July 6, 2005 Of the six, the only ones I give a shit about are Kidman, Shannon Moore, and Akio. Shannon Moore's career has been DOA since the Mattitude gimmick was scrapped as part of Matt leaving SD for RAW. Kidman's been in career hell since he landed wrong on a SSP and put Chavo out with an injury. His match with Tajiri at Backlash 2002 should have made him a player in the Cruiser division, but he never really went further than having a good tag team with another cruiser. Akio never really got a chance to show his stuff in the WWE because he's been on Velocity almost exclusively for the majority of his run. Maven's window of opportunity appeared to have closed about 2-3 injuries ago. He never seemed to regain his momentum once he came back, although an ill-advised heel turn probably didn't help. Gangrel, IIRC, was brought back in along with Viscera and Mideon as part of the angle JBL did with Undertaker but never did anything once Taker killed him. I like the guy but his career's been on life support for a long time because he's so injury-prone. What I'm wondering is why these guys got cut yet Kenzo Suzuki seems to still have a job.
Guest Some Guy Posted July 6, 2005 Report Posted July 6, 2005 I think with Kenzo they are too proud to admit they fucked up and signed the wrong guy.
Strummer Posted July 6, 2005 Report Posted July 6, 2005 add Spike Dudley and Kevin Fertig to the list of those released. Up to 8
Mad Dog Posted July 6, 2005 Report Posted July 6, 2005 Wow, the WWF has to be hurting really bad. This is close to 30 guys they've released in under a year. I've never seen such massive roster cutbacks.
Guest Bruiser Chong Posted July 6, 2005 Report Posted July 6, 2005 And yet, the product isn't all that much better. Hmm.
sek69 Posted July 6, 2005 Report Posted July 6, 2005 Wow, the WWF has to be hurting really bad. This is close to 30 guys they've released in under a year. I've never seen such massive roster cutbacks. Yet this was right after Linda pooh-pooh'ed investor concerns at the conference call. Yep, everything's gumdrops and rainbows in Stamford, that's why they're making more cuts than a slasher film and signed a new TV deal that gives them zero ad revenue.
Guest Mac Posted July 6, 2005 Report Posted July 6, 2005 Kevin Fertig was Mordecai, correct? Correct.
sek69 Posted July 6, 2005 Report Posted July 6, 2005 They've been MIA for months until the ECW PPV anyway...
Strummer Posted July 6, 2005 Report Posted July 6, 2005 yup, Dudley Boys and Matt Morgan are gone. That explains why the Mexicools got to squash Morgan, knew something was up Edit: Oops, ^ technically a spoiler
Mad Dog Posted July 6, 2005 Report Posted July 6, 2005 Matt Morgan Charlie Haas Jackie Gayda Marty Jannetty Dawn Marie
Loss Posted July 6, 2005 Author Report Posted July 6, 2005 HHH Undertaker Hulk Hogan Shawn Michaels Vince McMahon Stephanie McMahon Kevin Dunn Jim Ross Jerry Lawler All wrestlers over 250 lbs All wrestlers over 40 I have a gut feeling.
goodhelmet Posted July 6, 2005 Report Posted July 6, 2005 Matt Morgan Charlie Haas Jackie Gayda Marty Jannetty Dawn Marie So all of these personalities are gone?
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