goodhelmet Posted February 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 As a sociology thesis, wrestling has value as a study. As a historical thesis, probably not. Also, the first national promotion was probably Georgia Championship Wrestling solely through Ted Turner's tv station that we picked up in central Illinois in 1980. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted February 1, 2013 Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 1977-79 JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – January 16, 1977 (7,014) Ron Starr d. The Scorpion Tiger Conway Jr. d. Bill White Sgt. Jacques Goulet d. Keith Franks Kim Duk d. Frankie Laine Mighty Igor d. Brute Bernard Gene & Ole Anderson, & Wahoo McDaniel d. Blackjack Mulligan, Ric Flair, & Greg Valentine JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – February 6, 1977 (7,762) Tiger Conway Jr. d. Lanny Poffo Danny Miller d. Tony Russo Frankie Laine d. Doug Somers Mil Mascaras d. Sgt. Jacques Goulet Dino Bravo & Tim Woods d. Brute Bernard & Butch Malone Mid-Atlantic Heavyweight Title: Wahoo McDaniel © battled Greg Valentine to a DDQ US Heavyweight Title: Blackjack Mulligan © battled Paul Jones to a double countout Steel Cage Match: Ole Anderson d. Superstar Billy Graham JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – February 27, 1977 Larry Sharpe d. Herb Gallant Red Bastien d. Lanny Poffo Johnny Eagles fought Mr. X to a draw Paul Jones & Mighty Igor d. Kim Duk & Masked Superstar Mid-Atlantic Heavyweight Title: Wahoo McDaniel © d. Greg Valentine US Heavyweight Title: Dusty Rhodes d. Blackjack Mulligan © by DQ JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – March 20, 1977 (10,451) Bill Dromo d. Butch Malone Ron Starr d. Ricky Ferrara Ricky Steamboat d. Bill White Crusher Blackwell & Scott Irwin fought Dino Bravo & Tiger Conway Jr. to a draw Johnny Weaver d. Dory Funk Jr. by DQ Genichiro Tenryu & Jumbo Tsurtua d. The Gladiator & The Mafia PWF Heavyweight Title: Giant Baba © d. Baron Von Raschke Mid-Atlantic Heavyweight Title: Wahoo McDaniel © d. Kim Duk NWA World Tag Titles: Gene & Ole Anderson d. Ric Flair & Greg Valentine © by countout JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – April 3, 1977 (5,460) Sgt. Jacques Goulet fought Rick McGraw to a draw Frankie Laine d. Tony Russo Red Bastien d. Mr. X by DQ Tiger Conway Jr. & Ricky Steamboat d. The Hollywood Blondes Johnny Weaver d. Greg Valentine by DQ Indian Strap Match: Wahoo McDaniel d. Kim Duk US Heavyweight Title: Andre the Giant d. Blackjack Mulligan © by countout JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – April 24, 1977 Red Bastien d. Blue Scorpion Ricky Steamboat d. Scott Irwin Gene Anderson d. Steve Kovacs Bobo Brazil & Rufus R. Jones d. Crusher Blackwell & Missouri Mauler Mighty Igor d. Masked Superstar by DQ Ric Flair d. Ole Anderson US Heavyweight Title: Blackjack Mulligan © d. Dino Bravo JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – May 15, 1977 (7,000) Ted Oates d. Butch Malone Klondike Bill d. Larry Sharpe Missouri Mauler d. Danny Miller Tony Atlas & Red Bastien d. The Hollywood Blondes Texas Death Match: Greg Valentine d. Johnny Weaver US Heavyweight Title: Wahoo McDaniel d. Blackjack Mulligan © by DQ NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © battled Ric Flair to a double countout JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – June 11, 1977 Steve Kovacs d. Lanny Poffo Danny Miller d. Larry Sharpe Sgt. Jacques Goulet fought Mr. Sato to a draw Tully Blanchard, Ted Oates, & Ricky Steamboat d. Brute Bernard, Kim Duk, & The Great Malenko Bobo Brazil d. Ric Flair Texas Death Match: Dino Bravo d. Blackjack Mulligan Mid-Atlantic Heavyweight Title: Greg Valentine d. Wahoo McDaniel © JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – July 3, 1977 Steve Kovacs fought Mr. X to a draw Danny Miller d. Crusher Blackwell Johnny Weaver d. Brute Bernard Bobo Brazil & Tiger Conway Jr. d. Brute Bernard & Kim Duk NWA World TV Title: Ric Flair d. Ricky Steamboat © but the TV title time limit ran out before the pin Andre the Giant & Mighty Igor d. Blackjack Mulligan & Masked Superstar Mid-Atlantic Heavyweight Title: Wahoo McDaniel d. Greg Valentine © by DQ JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – July 24, 1977 (6,123) Abe Jacobs d. Ricky Ferrara Steve Kovacs d. Sgt. Jacques Goulet Wee Willie Wilson d. Lord Littlebrook Russian Stomper d. Dino Bravo The Great Malenko & Kim Duk d. Tully Blanchard & Rick McGraw Masked Superstar battled Mighty Igor to a double countout NWA World TV Title: Ricky Steamboat © d. Ric Flair US Heavyweight Title: Bobo Brazil © d. Blackjack Mulligan by DQ JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – August 14, 1977 (8,727) Abe Jacobs fought Mr. X to a draw Tully Blanchard d. Scott Irwin Danny Miller d. Russian Stomper Ted Oates fought Johnny Weaver to a draw Handicap Match: Dusty Rhodes & George Scott d. Blackjack Mulligan US Heavyweight Title: Ric Flair © battled Ricky Steamboat to a double countout NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © d. Wahoo McDaniel JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – September 4, 1977 (8,257) Tully Blanchard vs. Ricky Ferrara Abe Jacobs vs. Larry Sharpe Kim Duk vs. Tim Woods Danny Miller vs. Baron Von Raschke Crusher Blackwell & Missouri Mauler vs. Bobo Brazil & Tiger Conway Jr. Paul Jones d. Masked Superstar Steel Cage Match for the Mid-Atlantic Heavyweight Title: Wahoo McDaniel © d. Greg Valentine US Heavyweight Title vs. NWA World TV Title: Ric Flair © d. Ricky Steamboat © but the TV title time limit ran out before the pin JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – September 18, 1977 (7,219) Blue Scorpion vs. Klondike Bill Two Ton Harris vs. Rick McGraw Tully Blanchard vs. Tony Russo Scott Irwin vs. Danny Miller Bobo Brazil & Johnny Weaver d. Mr. X I & II NWA World TV Title: Ricky Steamboat © d. Baron Von Raschke Mid-Atlantic Heavyweight Title: Greg Valentine © d. Paul Jones by DQ US Heavyweight Title: Dusty Rhodes d. Ric Flair © by DQ JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – October 8, 1977 Roberto Soto d. Ricky Ferrara Hartford Love d. Mr. Sato Tiger Conway Jr. d. Russian Stomper Mr. X & Mr. X #2 d. Tully Blanchard & Ted Oates Tim Woods d. Baron Von Raschke Paul Jones d. Masked Superstar by DQ US Heavyweight Title: Ric Flair © d. Ricky Steamboat JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – October 30, 1977 (9,723) Charlie Fulton fought Jimmy Garvin to a draw The Great Malenko d. Klondike Bill Tiger Conway Jr. & Johnny Weaver d. Mr. X #1 & Mr. X #2 Ricky Steamboat & Tim Woods d. Blackjack Mulligan & Baron Von Raschke Paul Jones d. Masked Superstar by DQ NWA World Tag Titles: Ric Flair & Greg Valentine d. Gene & Ole Anderson © JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – November 24, 1977 Rick McGraw d. Ricky Ferrara Mr. Sato d. Tony Russo Dino Bravo d. Scott Irwin Tiger Conway Jr. d. Dick Murdoch by DQ 2 Ring Battle Royal won by Blackjack Mulligan & Tim Woods Blackjack Mulligan d. Tim Woods JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – December 11, 1977 (7,833) Tiger Conway Jr. d. Bill White Danny Miller d. Frank Monte Jimmy Garvin d. Tony Russo Bobo Brazil & Mr. Wrestling d. Mr. X #1 & #2 Masked Superstar d. Dino Bravo US Heavyweight Title: Ricky Steamboat © battled Blackjack Mulligan to a DDQ NWA World Tag Titles: Ric Flair & Greg Valentine © d. Ole Anderson & Wahoo McDaniel JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – January 1, 1978 (6,339) Abe Jacobs d. Frank Monte Tiger Conway Jr. d. Hartford Love Jimmy Garvin d. Joe Furr Swede Hanson d. Hubert Gallant Mr. X & Mr. X #2 d. Dino Bravo & Ted Oates Mighty Igor & Mr. Wrestling d. Masked Superstar & Baron Von Raschke Indian Strap Match: Wahoo McDaniel d. Greg Valentine US Heavyweight Title: Blackjack Mulligan d. Ricky Steamboat © JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – January 22, 1978 (7,629) Danny Miller d. Charlie Fulton Richard Blood d. Bill White Hartford Love fought Mr. Sato to a draw Bobo Brazil, Tiger Conway Jr., & Mighty Igor d. Crusher Blackwell, Ciclon Negro, & Missouri Mauler Paul Jones d. Ric Flair Mid-Atlantic Heavyweight Title: Greg Valentine © d. Wahoo McDaniel US Heavyweight Title: Blackjack Mulligan © d. Ricky Steamboat by DQ JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – February 5, 1978 (5,817) Bryan St. John d. Tony Russo Ciclon Negro d. Abe Jacobs Mr. Wrestling d. Mr. X #2 Jack & Jerry Brisco d. Missouri Mauler & Baron Von Raschke SR - Gene Anderson: Wahoo McDaniel d. Greg Valentine US Heavyweight Title: Paul Jones d. Blackjack Mulligan © by DQ Ole Anderson d. Ric Flair JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – February 26, 1978 (5,827) Danny Miller d. Hartford Love Johnny Weaver d. Russian Stomper Tiger Conway Jr. d. Crusher Blackwell Richard Blood & Ted Oates d. Bill Irwin & Bill White Mid-Atlantic Tag Titles: Paul Jones & Ricky Steamboat © d. Ciclon Negro & Baron Von Raschke NWA World Tag Titles: Ric Flair & Greg Valentine © d. Jack & Jerry Brisco JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – March 19, 1978 Frank Monte & Steve Mulsin fought Bryan St. John & Jerry Stubbs to a draw Danny Miller d. Abe Jacobs Jan Nelson d. Tiger Conway Jr. Mid-Atlantic Tag Titles: Paul Jones & Ricky Steamboat © d. Mr. X I & II Dick Murdoch d. Baron Von Raschke US Heavyweight Title: Tim Woods d. Blackjack Mulligan © Lumberjack Match: Ric Flair & Greg Valentine d. Ole Anderson & Wahoo McDaniel JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – April 2, 1978 Ted Oates fought Mr. X to a draw Jerry Stubbs d. Bill White Ken Patera d. Bryan St. John Dick Murdoch (subbing for Bobo Brazil) d. Russian Stomper Dick Murdoch & Johnny Weaver d. Ciclon Negro & Baron Von Raschke Mid-Atlantic Heavyweight Title: Wahoo McDaniel d. Greg Valentine © Tim Woods d. Blackjack Mulligan by DQ NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © d. Ricky Steamboat by countout JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – April 23, 1978 (9,732) NWA World Tag Titles Tournament – 1st Round: Andre the Giant & Wahoo McDaniel d. Ric Flair & Greg Valentine by forfeit. NWA World Tag Titles Tournament – 1st Round: Masked Superstar & Ken Patera d. Tony Atlas & Bobo Brazil NWA World Tag Titles Tournament – 1st Round: Gene & Ole Anderson d. Jack & Jerry Brisco NWA World Tag Titles Tournament – 1st Round: Blackjack Mulligan & Stan Hansen d. Johnny Weaver & Mr. Wrestling NWA World Tag Titles Tournament – 1st Round: Paul Jones & Ricky Steamboat d. Ciclon Negro & Baron Von Raschke NWA World Tag Titles Tournament – Quarterfinals: Andre the Giant & Wahoo McDaniel fought Masked Superstar & Ken Patera to a draw NWA World Tag Titles Tournament – Quarterfinals: Paul Jones & Ricky Steamboat d. Gene & Ole Anderson NWA World Tag Titles Tournament – Semifinals: Masked Superstar & Ken Patera d. Blackjack Mulligan & Stan Hansen by DQ NWA World Tag Titles Tournament – Finals: Paul Jones & Ricky Steamboat d. Masked Superstar & Ken Patera JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – May 6, 1978 Ted Oates d. Charlie Fulton Don Kernodle d. Steve Muslin Swede Hanson d. Hartford Love Johnny Weaver & Jay Youngblood d. Mr. X #1 & Mr. X #2 Tony Atlas d. Ciclon Negro Texas Death Match: Blackjack Mulligan & Ricky Steamboat d. Masked Superstar & Baron Von Raschke Mid-Atlantic Heavyweight Title: Ken Patera © battled Wahoo McDaniel to a DDQ JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – May 28, 1978 (4,000) Skandor Akbar fought Jerry Stubbs to a draw Mr. X d. Akio Sato Sgt. Jacques Goulet d. Roberto Soto Tim Woods d. Gene Anderson Tony Atlas & Rufus R. Jones battled Ciclon Negro & Baron Von Raschke to a no contest Mid-Atlantic Heavyweight Title: Dick Murdoch d. Ken Patera © by DQ NWA World Tag Titles: Paul Jones & Ricky Steamboat © d. Ric Flair & Greg Valentine JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – June 18, 1978 Richard Blood d. Skandor Akbar Abe Jacobs d. Bill White Jay Youngblood d. Tony Russo Johnny Weaver & Tim Woods d. Ciclon Negro & Sgt. Jacques Goulet Tony Atlas d. Greg Valentine Blackjack Mulligan, Wahoo McDaniel, & Dick Murdoch d. Ric Flair, Masked Superstar, & Harley Race JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – July 2, 1978 (11,267) Johnny Weaver d. Mr. X #2 Sgt. Jacques Goulet d. Jerry Stubbs Mr. X #1 d. Akio Sato Don Kernodle & Ted Oates d. Bill Howard & Frank Monte Tony Atlas & Jay Youngblood d. Crusher Blackwell & Ciclon Negro Masked Superstar d. Tim Woods US Heavyweight Title: Blackjack Mulligan d. Ric Flair © by DQ NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © d. Dick Murdoch JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – July 16, 1978 Swede Hanson d. Charlie Fulton Richard Blood d. Bill White Jerry Stubbs d. Mr. Sato Skandor Akbar d. Klondike Bill Johnny Weaver & Mr. Wrestling d. Ciclon Negro & Sgt. Jacques Goulet Ken Patera d. Paul Jones Texas Death Match: Blackjack Mulligan d. Masked Superstar US Heavyweight Title: Ric Flair © d. Ricky Steamboat JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – July 29, 1978 Bill White d. Joe Furr Jay Youngblood d. Mr. X Jerry & Ted Oates d. Crusher Blackwell & Sgt. Jacques Goulet The Fabulous Moolah d. Kitty Adams Ricky Steamboat d. Gene Anderson US Heavyweight Title: Ric Flair © d. Dick Murdoch Steel Cage Match: Blackjack Mulligan d. Masked Superstar JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – August 13, 1978 (6,005) Doug Gilbert fought Don Kernodle to a draw Abe Jacobs d. Bill White Sweet Brown Sugar d. Mr. X #2 Jerry & Ted Oates d. Gene Anderson & Sgt. Jacques Goulet NWA World TV Title: Paul Jones © d. Ciclon Negro Mid-Atlantic Heavyweight Title: Tony Atlas d. Ken Patera © by DQ US Heavyweight Title: Ric Flair © d. Blackjack Mulligan JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – September 3, 1978 Bill Howard fought Roberto Soto to a draw Richard Blood d. Charlie Fulton Sweet Brown Sugar d. Mr. X #1 Johnny Weaver & Mr. Wrestling d. Skandor Akbar & Mr. X #2 Dick Murdoch d. Gene Anderson NWA World Tag Titles: Paul Jones & Ricky Steamboat d. Baron Von Raschke & Greg Valentine © US Heavyweight Title: Blackjack Mulligan d. Ric Flair © by DQ JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – September 24, 1978 (5,091) Joe Furr d. David Patterson Frank Monte d. Roberto Soto Rudy Kay d. Richard Blood Abe Jacobs & Don Kernodle d. Bill Howard & Bill White Sweet Brown Sugar & Johnny Weaver d. Sgt. Jacques Goulet & Swede Hanson Dick Murdoch d. Greg Valentine Blackjack Mulligan d. Baron Von Raschke US Heavyweight Title: Ric Flair © d. Ricky Steamboat JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – October 21, 1978 (7,500) Rudy Kay fought Don Kernodle to a draw Steve Muslin d. Ed Fury Mr. X I d. Bryan St. John Sweet Brown Sugar & Jay Youngblood d. Swede Hanson & Chris Tolos Mid-Atlantic Heavyweight Title: Ken Patera © d. Tony Atlas Lights Out Match: Blackjack Mulligan d. Ric Flair NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © d. Ricky Steamboat JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – November 5, 1978 (3,847) Bryan St. John d. Joe Furr Don Kernodle d. Charlie Fulton Abe Jacobs d. Mr. X #2 Skip Young d. Chris Tolos Paul Orndorff & Jimmy Snuka d. Sgt. Jacques Goulet & Rudy Kay WWWF Heavyweight Title: Bob Backlund © d. Ken Patera by DQ Mid-Atlantic Tag Titles: Paul Jones & Ricky Steamboat d. Ric Flair & Big John Studd © JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – November 23, 1978 (13,447) Steve Regal d. Frank Monte Don Kernodle d. Steve Muslin Richard Blood & Gary Young d. Mr. X #1 & Mr. X #2 Johnny Weaver & Jay Youngblood d. Brute Bernard & Swede Hanson Mid-Atlantic Heavyweight Title: Tony Atlas d. Ken Patera © Ricky Steamboat d. Big John Studd Steel Cage Match for the US Heavyweight Title: Ric Flair © d. Blackjack Mulligan JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – December 10, 1978 (3,547) Steve Regal d. Joe Palardy Abe Jacobs d. Steve Muslin Sweet Brown Sugar d. Rudy Kay Johnny Weaver d. Swede Hanson Jerry & Ted Oates d. Gene Anderson & Sgt. Jacques Goulet NWA World Tag Titles: Baron Von Raschke & Greg Valentine © d. Paul Orndorff & Jimmy Snuka by DQ US Heavyweight Title: Ricky Steamboat d. Ric Flair © by DQ JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – December 30, 1978 (10,327) Herb Gallant fought Steve Regal to a draw Abe Jacobs d. Charlie Fulton Don Kernodle d. David Patterson Jerry & Ted Oates d. Gene Anderson & Brute Bernard Blackjack Mulligan fought Big John Studd to a draw NWA World TV Title: Paul Jones © d. Paul Orndorff US Heavyweight Title: Ricky Steamboat d. Ric Flair © JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – January 13, 1979 Abe Jacobs d. Joe Palardy Frank Monte d. Gary Young Sgt. Jacques Goulet & David Patterson d. The Cobra & Les Thornton Skip Young & Jay Youngblood d. Gene Anderson & Swede Hanson US Heavyweight Title: Ricky Steamboat © d. Big John Studd in 36:00 NWA World Tag Titles: Paul Orndorff & Jimmy Snuka © d. Ric Flair & Greg Valentine in 31:00 JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – January 28, 1979 (5,186) Johnny Weaver d. Mr. X Pedro Morales d. Sgt. Jacques Goulet Don Kernodle & Terry Sawyer d. Frank Monte & Joe Palardy Tony Atlas & Dino Bravo d. Ken Patera & Big John Studd US Heavyweight Title: Ricky Steamboat © battled Paul Jones to a double countout NWA World Tag Titles: Paul Orndorff & Jimmy Snuka © d. Ric Flair & Greg Valentine JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – February 11, 1979 (4,024) Herb Gallant fought Steve Muslin to a draw Kim Duk d. Abe Jacobs Pedro Morales & Les Thornton d. Brute Bernard & Mr. X I Dino Bravo & Rufus R. Jones d. Gene Anderson & Moose Morowski Paul Orndorff d. Greg Valentine Jimmy Snuka d. Ric Flair US Heavyweight Title: Ricky Steamboat d. Paul Jones in 32:00 JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – March 4, 1979 (7,129) David Patterson fought Steve Regal to a draw Mr. X I d. Gary Young Nick DeCarlo, Pedro Morales, & Skip Young d. Gene Anderson, Kim Duk, & Moose Morowski Jimmy Snuka d. Baron Von Raschke Ernie Ladd d. Rufus R. Jones Blackjack Mulligan d. Big John Studd Mid-Atlantic Heavyweight Title: Ken Patera © battled Wahoo McDaniel to a double countout JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – April 1, 1979 (8,139) Sgt. Jacques Goulet fought Les Thornton to a draw Jay Youngblood d. Brute Bernard Johnny Weaver d. Moose Morowski Big John Studd d. Skip Young 2 Ring Battle Royal won by Jimmy Snuka Steel Cage Match for the US Heavyweight Title: Ric Flair d. Ricky Steamboat © in 32:10 JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – April 22, 1979 (5,183) Nick DeCarlo d. Tony Russo Moose Morowski & Big John Studd d. Abe Jacobs & Pedro Morales Don Kernodle d. David Patterson Leo Burke d. Mr. X #1 NWA World TV Title: Ricky Steamboat d. Paul Jones © but TV title time limit ran out AWA World Heavyweight Title: Nick Bockwinkel © d. Paul Orndorff US Heavyweight Title: Jimmy Snuka d. Ric Flair © by DQ NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © d. Dino Bravo JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – May 20, 1979 (4,379) Len Denton & Rudy Kay fought Frank Monte & Bill White to a draw Leo Burke fought Don Kernodle to a draw Jim Brunzell d. Swede Hanson Rufus R. Jones d. Sgt. Jacques Goulet Paul Orndorff & Jimmy Snuka d. Kim Duk & Moose Morowski Dusty Rhodes d. Ernie Ladd NWA World Tag Titles: Paul Jones & Baron Von Raschke © d. Ric Flair & Big John Studd JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – June 3, 1979 Don Kernodle fought Mr. X #1 to a draw Sgt. Jacques Goulet & Rudy Kay d. Nick DeCarlo & Gary Young Leo Burke d. Len Denton Jim Brunzell & Rufus R. Jones d. Gene Anderson & Kim Duk Mid-Atlantic Heavyweight Title: Jimmy Snuka d. Ken Patera © by DQ Paul Jones & Baron Von Racshke d. Dusty Rhodes & Ric Flair in 27:15 JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – June 17, 1979 (9,321) Cocoa Samoa d. Tony Russo Leo Burke & Les Thornton d. Kim Duk & Mr. X Len Denton & Rudy Kay d. Don Kernodle & Gary Young Jim Brunzell d. Moose Morowski Mid-Atlantic Heavyweight Title: Dino Bravo d. Ken Patera © by DQ US Heavyweight Title - SR: Buddy Rogers: Dusty Rhodes d. Ric Flair © but decision was overturned because Rogers fought with Flair NWA World Heavyweight Title: Ricky Steamboat d. Harley Race © by DQ JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – July 8, 1979 (6,517) Gary Young d. Tony Russo Les Thornton d. Mr. X Tony Garea d. Charlie Fulton Johnny Weaver & Jay Youngblood d. Gene Anderson & Swede Hanson Jim Brunzell & Rufus R. Jones d. Ken Patera & Big John Studd Dusty Rhodes battled Ernie Ladd to a double countout US Heavyweight Title: Ric Flair © d. Buddy Rogers NWA World Heavyweight Title: Ricky Steamboat d. Harley Race © by DQ JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – July 28, 1979 (7,318) Don Kernodle d. David Patterson Len Denton & Mr. X d. Cocoa Samoa & Pedro Morales Coconut Willie d. Little Tokyo Tony Garea & Rufus R. Jones d. Sgt. Jacques Goulet & Rudy Kay Johnny Weaver d. Jimmy Snuka Jim Brunzell d. Dewey Robertson NWA World TV Title: Ricky Steamboat © d. Ernie Ladd NWA World Tag Titles: Blackjack Mulligan & Ric Flair d. Paul Jones & Baron Von Raschke © by DQ JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – August 12, 1979 Sgt. Jacques Goulet d. Charlie Fulton Abe Jacobs d. Mr. X Dewey Robertson d. Nick DeCarlo Cocoa Samoa & Don Kernodle d. Gene Anderson & Moose Morowski Big John Studd d. Tony Garea Johnny Weaver d. Ernie Ladd by DQ $1,000 Challenge: Jim Brunzell d. Ken Patera NWA World Tag Titles: SR - George Scott: Blackjack Mulligan & Ric Flair © d. Paul Jones & Baron Von Raschke JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – September 2, 1979 (5,549) Johnny Weaver & Jay Youngblood d. Big John Studd & Jimmy Snuka NWA World TV Title: Ricky Steamboat © d. Nick Bockwinkel NWA World Tag Titles: Blackjack Mulligan & Ric Flair d. Paul Jones & Baron Von Raschke © by DQ JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – September 16, 1979 (3,569) Tony Garea d. Nick DeCarlo Bob Markus d. Frank Monte Dewey Robertson d. Pedro Morales Jim Brunzell & Jay Youngblood d. Gene Anderson & Brute Bernard Wahoo McDaniel d. Big John Studd US Heavyweight Title: Jimmy Snuka © d. Ricky Steamboat NWA World Tag Titles: Blackjack Mulligan & Ric Flair d. Paul Jones & Baron Von Raschke © by DQ JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – October 7, 1979 (3,358) Don Kernodle & Rick McGraw d. The Scorpion & Mr. X Lone Eagle d. Tiny Thumb S.D. Jones d. Gene Anderson Blackjack Mulligan d. Paul Jones Mid-Atlantic Heavyweight Title: Jim Brunzell © d. Ken Patera US Heavyweight Title: Jimmy Snuka © d. Ric Flair JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – October 28, 1979 Cocoa Samoa fought Doug Somers to a draw Don Kernodle d. Frank Monte Gene Anderson d. Bob Marcus Rufus R. & S.D. Jones, & Johnny Weaver d. Ken Patera, Big John Studd, & Buddy Rogers Indian Strap Match: Jay Youngblood d. Dewey Robertson Mid-Atlantic Heavyweight Title: Jim Brunzell © d. Paul Jones US Heavyweight Title: Jimmy Snuka © d. Ric Flair JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – November 22, 1979 (11,387) Steve Muslin d. Frank Monte SD Jones d. David Patterson Battle Royal won by Andre the Giant Mid-Atlantic Heavyweight Title: Ray Stevens d. Jim Brunzell © in 27:00 Street Fight: Blackjack Mulligan d. Big John Studd US Heavyweight Title: Jimmy Snuka © battled Tim Woods to a no contest JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – December 2, 1979 Jim Brunzell, Rufus R. Jones, & Johnny Weaver vs. Buddy Rogers, Jimmy Snuka, & Ray Stevens Texas Bullrope Match: Blackjack Mulligan vs. Big John Studd Paul Jones & Baron Von Raschke vs. Ricky Steamboat & Jay Youngblood JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – December 30, 1979 Ron Sexton fought Billy Starr to a draw Abe Jacobs d. Charlie Fulton Sgt. Jacques Goulet d. Tony Garea Rufus R. Jones d. The Scorpion Tim Woods d. Gene Anderson Paul Jones, Big John Studd, Greg Valentine, & Baron Von Raschke d. Blackjack Mulligan, Jim Brunzell, Jay Youngblood, & Ricky Steamboat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted February 1, 2013 Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 KrisZ, the four major take aways from that that I can see are: 1. The shows headlined by the Andersons generally drew more than other shows. 2. Andre massively popped the gate whenever he was on a card. 3. In 1976 neither Flair nor Dusty were guys who were going to draw more than 10,000 to the Greensoboro Colesium alone. 4. People really cared about seeing the NWA champ, whether it was Brisco or Funk. That's my reading of it anyway. EDIT: (this is looking 74-76) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted February 1, 2013 Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 Looking at the 77-79 results, it doesn't seem like Flair or Steamboat (or Greg Valentine) were guys who were going get you big crowds. They seemed to be drawing your bread and butter fans around 5-7,000, but only one show headlined by Flair and Steamboat goes over 10,000 and that had a pretty stacked undercard with Mulligan vs. Big John Studd and Jones vs. Orndorff for the Mid-Atlantic title. One show headlined by Flair-Steamboat goes as low as 3,000. Of the other two shows that go over 10,000, I don't believe it's Snuka vs. Tim Woods getting 11,000 people, it's the appearance of Andre in a battle royale. That has a been a constant, Andre on the card, 10,000+. The other one, is interesting: JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – November 23, 1978 (13,447) Steve Regal d. Frank Monte Don Kernodle d. Steve Muslin Richard Blood & Gary Young d. Mr. X #1 & Mr. X #2 Johnny Weaver & Jay Youngblood d. Brute Bernard & Swede Hanson Mid-Atlantic Heavyweight Title: Tony Atlas d. Ken Patera © Ricky Steamboat d. Big John Studd Steel Cage Match for the US Heavyweight Title: Ric Flair © d. Blackjack Mulligan Is that because: 1. Atlas/ Patera, Steamboat/Studd is a hot undercard or 2. Because it was Thanksgiving? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Waco Posted February 1, 2013 Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 Looks like a clear up turn with Wahoo/Valentine to me, but I wasn't looking super closely. A couple of other quick points... On nationalization the only two attempts I know of in the 70's had little to nothing to do with MACW or traditional U.S. promotions. The one most people know about is Enhorn's IWA. This had a little to do with MACW, since the IWA tried to invade that area - and got there ass kicked. If memory serves Eddie Einhorn realized this was a bust, realized syndication power didn't mean shit when they couldn't get into the main arenas and sold his interest to Pedro Martinez/Johnny Powers who used to run Buffalo/Cleveland IIRC. The point here is that even favorable accounts of the IWA will conclude that the whole thing was an unmitigated disaster. The other semi-attempt I know of was made by Paul Vachon during the promotional war in Montreal in the 70's. Even here to argue that Vachon was attempting a national expansion is a stretch - what we do know is that Vachon secured tv in Montreal in Frence and English. He sent the tape of the English tv all over Canada, which effectively made it a promotion that had national viewership reach - in Canada. Why the hell would he want to do this during an era where everything was based on house show attendance? My guess is Vachon had plans to expand to other parts of Canada if he was able to succeed in taking Montreal. Grand Prix did great business for a while, but for whatever reason, both promotions in Montreal effectively killed each other and Vachon got out of Grand Prix before anything close to that happens. This is all covered in the new Montreal book and the questions I have about the details of this will be asked to the authors on Saturday when Dave and I have them on Wrestling Culture. In any event those are the closest things I know of to nationalization schemes during the 70's - neither even really got off the ground. One other final point to follow up on Flair and "national stardom." One could easily argue that up until Flair won the NWA title for the first time Ken Patera was the bigger "national star." I don't say this to score any points for Patera or get in a dig at Flair. Just to illustrate that "national stardom" is something we shouldn't think about through the prism of where individuals ended up, nor should being a major regional draw be trivialized by comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Waco Posted February 1, 2013 Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 Looking at the 77-79 results, it doesn't seem like Flair or Steamboat (or Greg Valentine) were guys who were going get you big crowds. They seemed to be drawing your bread and butter fans around 5-7,000, but only one show headlined by Flair and Steamboat goes over 10,000 and that had a pretty stacked undercard with Mulligan vs. Big John Studd and Jones vs. Orndorff for the Mid-Atlantic title. One show headlined by Flair-Steamboat goes as low as 3,000. Of the other two shows that go over 10,000, I don't believe it's Snuka vs. Tim Woods getting 11,000 people, it's the appearance of Andre in a battle royale. That has a been a constant, Andre on the card, 10,000+. The other one, is interesting: JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – November 23, 1978 (13,447) Steve Regal d. Frank Monte Don Kernodle d. Steve Muslin Richard Blood & Gary Young d. Mr. X #1 & Mr. X #2 Johnny Weaver & Jay Youngblood d. Brute Bernard & Swede Hanson Mid-Atlantic Heavyweight Title: Tony Atlas d. Ken Patera © Ricky Steamboat d. Big John Studd Steel Cage Match for the US Heavyweight Title: Ric Flair © d. Blackjack Mulligan Is that because: 1. Atlas/ Patera, Steamboat/Studd is a hot undercard or 2. Because it was Thanksgiving? Andre was a huge draw everywhere, especially Andre in a Battle Royal. That card did huge because it was Thanksgiving. That's not to say the other things weren't factors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted February 1, 2013 Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 1980-82 JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – January 13, 1980 (4,457) Ron Sexton fought Mr. X to a draw Don Kernodle & Scott McGhee d. The Scorpion & Doug Somers Tony Garea & SD Jones d. Brute Bernard & Frankie Laine Jim Brunzell d. Paul Jones Rufus R. Jones d. Baron Von Raschke NWA World Tag Titles: Ricky Steamboat & Jay Youngblood © d. Jack & Jerry Brisco Steel Cage Loser Leaves Town: Blackjack Mulligan d. Big John Studd JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – January 27, 1980 (4,417) Abe Jacobs d. Tony Russo Frankie Laine d. Billy Starr Pedro Morales d. Mr. X Tony Garea d. Dewey Robertson Ray Stevens & Greg Valentine d. Rufus R. Jones & SD Jones Ric Flair d. Gene Anderson US Heavyweight Title: Blackjack Mulligan d. Jimmy Snuka © by DQ No DQ Falls Count Anywhere for the NWA World Tag Titles: Ricky Steamboat & Jay Youngblood © d. Paul Jones & Baron Von Raschke JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – February 10, 1980 David Patterson fought Ron Sexton to a draw Matt Borne d. Billy Starr Bob Marcus d. Scott McGhee Rufus R. Jones & SD Jones d. Swede Hanson & Frankie Laine Mr. Wrestling II (subbing for Tommy Rich) d. Masked Superstar Jim Brunzell d. Johnny Weaver in 22:15 NWA World Tag Titles: Ricky Steamboat & Jay Youngblood © d. Ray Stevens & Greg Valentine in 27:40 JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – March 2, 1980 SD Jones & Johnny Weaver vs. Dewey Robertson & Swede Hanson Blackjack Mulligan vs. Masked Superstar Ric Flair vs. Jimmy Snuka Lights Out: Paul Jones vs. Baron Von Raschke JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – March 16, 1980 (6,819) Abe Jacobs & Bob Marcus d. Tony Russo & Billy Starr Matt Borne d. The Scorpion Ox Baker d. Pedro Morales SD Jones & Johnny Weaver d. Brute Bernard & Dewey Robertson Ricky Steamboat d. Ray Stevens US Heavyweight Title: Jimmy Snuka d. Ric Flair © Steel Cage Match: Paul Jones d. Baron Von Raschke JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – April 6, 1980 Billy Starr d. Bob Marcus Don Kernodle d. Brute Bernard Matt Borne, Jim Brunzell, & Johnny Weaver d. Swede Hanson, Gene Lewis, & Dewey Robertson Andre the Giant & Blackjack Mulligan d. Masked Superstars I & II Ric Flair d. Jimmy Snuka JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – April 20, 1980 Abe Jacobs fought Don Kernodle to a draw Pedro Morales d. Frankie Laine Gene Lewis & Doug Somers d. Cocoa Samoa & Ron Ritchie Rufus R. Jones & Buzz Sawyer d. Ox Baker & Dewey Robertson Mid-Atlantic Heavyweight Title: Jim Brunzell © d. Iron Sheik by DQ Blackjack Mulligan d. Masked Superstar #2 US Heavyweight Title: Ric Flair d. Jimmy Snuka © JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – May 10, 1980 NWA World TV Title: Masked Superstar © vs. Blackjack Mulligan Lumberjack Match: Jimmy Snuka d. Ric Flair NWA World Tag Titles – SR: David Crockett: Ricky Steamboat & Jay Youngblood d. Ray Stevens & Greg Valentine © JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – May 25, 1980 (8,100) Tony Garea fought Abe Jacobs to a draw Rufus R. Jones & Johnny Weaver d. Gene Lewis & Swede Hanson Matt Borne & Buzz Sawyer d. Len Denton & Billy Starr Sweet Ebony Diamond d. Ox Baker Jimmy Snuka d. Wahoo McDaniel Ray Stevens d. Ricky Steamboat US Heavyweight Title: Ric Flair © fought Greg Valentine to a draw JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – June 8, 1980 (3,374) Ron Ritchie d. The Scorpion Don Kernodle d. Doug Somers Ray Stevens d. Pedro Morales Sweet Ebony Diamond d. Genichiro Tenryu Rufus R. Jones & SD Jones d. Ox Baker & Brute Bernard Blackjack Mulligan & Cousin Luke battled Enforcer Luciano & Masked Superstar to a double countout Steel Cage Match: Iron Sheik & Jimmy Snuka d. Ric Flair & Greg Valentine (subbing for Wahoo McDaniel) JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – June 22, 1980 (5,319) Nick DeCarlo d. Tony Russo Abe Jacobs d. Billy Starr Don Kernodle d. The Scorpion SD Jones d. Ox Baker Matt Borne & Buzz Sawyer d. Gene Lewis & Dewey Robertson Ric Flair battled Greg Valentine to a DDQ NWA World Tag Titles: Jimmy Snuka & Ray Stevens d. Ricky Steamboat & Jay Youngblood © JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – July 6, 1980 (8,056) Buzz Sawyer d. Billy Starr Johnny Weaver d. Brute Bernard 15 Man Battle Royal won by Andre the Giant Ricky Steamboat d. Ray Stevens Blackjack Mulligan d. Enforcer Luciano US Heavyweight Title: Ric Flair © d. Greg Valentine JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – August 3, 1980 (6,429) Steve Muslin d. Ricky Ferrara Nick DeCarlo fought David Patterson to a draw Matt Borne & Buzz Sawyer d. Gene Lewis & Swede Hanson SD Jones & Sweet Ebony Diamond d. Enforcer Luciano & Masked Superstar Mid-Atlantic Heavyweight Title: Iron Sheik © d. Jim Brunzell NWA World Tag Titles: Ricky Steamboat & Jay Youngblood d. Jimmy Snuka & Ray Stevens © by countout JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – August 17, 1980 (6,281) Cocoa Samoa & Abe Jacobs d. Ricky Ferrara & Billy Starr George Wells d. Ben Alexander Johnny Weaver d. Frankie Laine Dewey Robertson d. Don Kernodle Paul Jones & Sweet Ebony Diamond d. Iron Sheik & Masked Superstar Ric Flair d. Greg Valentine NWA World Tag Titles: Jimmy Snuka & Ray Stevens © d. Ricky Steamboat & Jay Youngblood JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – August 31, 1980 (6,855) Steve Muslin & Ron Ritchie d. Ricky Ferrara & Billy Starr Don Kernodle fought David Patterson to a draw SD Jones d. Frankie Laine Sweet Ebony Diamond & George Wells d. Dewey Robertson & Swede Hanson Blackjack Mulligan battled Bobby Duncum to a double countout Ricky Steamboat d. Jimmy Snuka US Heavyweight Title: Greg Valentine © d. Ric Flair JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – September 20, 1980 Nick DeCarlo d. Ricky Ferrara Don Kernodle d. Ben Alexander Ron Ritchie d. Brute Bernard The Sheepherders d. SD Jones & Steve Muslin Johnny Weaver & George Wells d. Gene Lewis & Dewey Robertson US Heavyweight Title: Ric Flair d. Greg Valentine © by countout NWA World Tag Titles: Paul Jones & Masked Superstar d. Jimmy Snuka & Ray Stevens © by DQ JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – October 5, 1980 (4,723) Dewey Robertson & Swede Hanson d. Nick DeCarlo & Don Kernodle The Sheepherders d. Matt Borne & Buzz Sawyer Ivan Koloff d. SD Jones Paul Jones d. Gene Anderson Ric Flair d. Greg Valentine NWA World Tag Titles: Blackjack Mulligan & Masked Superstar d. Jimmy Snuka & Ray Stevens © by DQ JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – November 2, 1980 (4,128) Matt Borne fought Genichiro Tenryu to a draw George Wells d. Gene Lewis The Sheepherders d. Nick DeCarlo & SD Jones Angelo Mosca d. Swede Hanson Ricky Steamboat d. Ole Anderson Texas Death Match: Blackjack Mulligan vs. Bobby Duncum JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – November 27, 1980 Ricky Ferrara fought Abe Jacobs to a draw SD Jones d. Ben Alexander Candi Malloy d. Wendi Richter NWA World TV Title: Roddy Piper © d. Johnny Weaver Mid-Atlantic Tag Titles: The Sheepherders © d. Matt Borne & Dewey Robertson Steel Cage Match for the US Heavyweight Title: Ric Flair © d. Greg Valentine Steel Cage Match for the NWA World Tag Titles: Paul Jones & Masked Superstar d. Jimmy Snuka & Ray Stevens © JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – December 14, 1980 Matt Borne d. Cy Jernigan Ricky Ferrara d. Jerry Caldwell Abe Jacobs d. Ben Alexander Candi Malloy & Peggy Lee d. Joyce Grable & Judy Martin Johnny Weaver & George Wells d. Kim Duk & Genichiro Tenryu Taped Fist Match: Bobby Duncum d. Blackjack Mulligan NWA World Tag Titles: Roddy Piper & Greg Valentine d. Paul Jones & Masked Superstar © by DQ JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – December 28, 1980 Charlie Fulton fought Frank Monte to a draw Swede Hanson & Gene Lewis d. Nick DeCarlo & Steve Muslin Kim Duk & Genichiro Tenryu d. Don Kernodle & Johnny Weaver Masked Superstar d. Jimmy Snuka by DQ Blackjack Mulligan d. Bobby Duncum Ricky Steamboat d. Greg Valentine US Heavyweight Title: Ric Flair © d. Roddy Piper JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – January 11, 1981 Frank Monte fought Jim Nelson to a draw Swede Hanson d. Ron Ritchie Dewey Robertson & Sweet Ebony Diamond d. Kim Duk & Genichiro Tenryu Roddy Piper d. Johnny Weaver Mid-Atlantic Heavyweight Title: Ricky Steamboat © d. Jimmy Snuka NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © d. Ric Flair JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – January 24, 1981 Abe Jacobs d. Charlie Fulton Kim Duk d. Bruno Sammartino Jr. Frank Monte & Steve Muslin d. Ricky Ferrara & Gene Lewis Dewey Robertson & George Wells d. Mr. Fuji & Genichiro Tenryu Ivan Koloff d. Iron Sheik Blackjack Mulligan d. Bobby Duncum Ric Flair & Ricky Steamboat d. Roddy Piper & Greg Valentine JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – February 7, 1981 Sgt. Jacques Goulet fought Bruno Sammartino Jr. to a draw Frank Monte & Steve Muslin d. Ricky Ferrara & Jim Nelson Mid-Atlantic Tag Titles: Mr. Fuji & Genichiro Tenryu d. Dewey Robertson & George Wells © Blackjack Mulligan d. Iron Sheik US Heavyweight Title: Roddy Piper © d. Ric Flair NWA World Tag Titles: Paul Jones & Masked Superstar © d. Ivan Koloff & Ray Stevens by DQ JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – March 1, 1981 Ben Alexander d. Ricky Harris Tony Tossi d. Ricky Ferrara Cy Jernigan d. Charlie Fulton Bobby Duncum d. Don Kernodle Mid-Atlantic Tag Titles: Mr. Fuji & Genichiro Tenryu © d. Dewey Robertson & George Wells US Heavyweight Title: Roddy Piper © d. Ric Flair NWA World Tag Titles: Ivan Koloff & Ray Stevens d. Paul Jones & Masked Superstar © JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – March 22, 1981 Jim Nelson d. Ricky Ferrara Don Kernodle d. Kurt Von Hess Bruno Sammartino Jr. d. Gene Lewis Mid-Atlantic Tag Titles: Mr. Fuji & Genichiro Tenryu © d. Sweet Ebony Diamond & George Wells WWF Heavyweight Title: Bob Backlund © d. Bobby Duncum NWA World Tag Titles: Paul Jones & Masked Superstar d. Ivan Koloff & Ray Stevens © Mid-Atlantic Heavyweight Title: Ricky Steamboat © d. Jimmy Snuka JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – April 4, 1981 Ricky Ferrara d. Abe Jacobs Swede Hanson d. Ron Ritchie Bruno Sammartino Jr. d. Jim Nelson Gene & Ole Anderson d. Steve Muslin & Dewey Robertson Ric Flair d. Ivan Koloff NWA World Tag Titles: Paul Jones & Masked Superstar © d. Ray Stevens & Greg Valentine NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © battled Blackjack Mulligan to a double countout JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – April 18, 1981 Tony Tossi d. Ricky Harris Ron Ritchie d. Jim Nelson Frank Monte d. Kurt Von Hess Swede Hanson d. Dewey Robertson Sweet Ebony Diamond fought Greg Valentine to a draw Gene & Ole Anderson d. Blackjack Mulligan & Blackjack Mulligan Jr. US Heavyweight Title: Ric Flair © d. Ivan Koloff JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – May 9, 1981 Frank Monte d. Ken Timbs Jimmy Valiant d. Ron Ritchie Mr. Wrestling II d. Swede Hanson Austin Idol d. Ricky Steamboat Paul Jones & Wahoo McDaniel d. Gene & Ole Anderson Dusty Rhodes d. Ivan Koloff JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – May 23, 1981 (6,349) Ron Ritchie d. Ken Timbs Mike Davis d. Ricky Harris Mr. Fuji d. Mike Reed Austin Idol d. Masked Superstar Ivan Koloff d. Mr. Wrestling II Wahoo McDaniel & Jay Youngblood d. Gene & Ole Anderson by DQ Ric Flair d. Roddy Piper by countout JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – June 6, 1981 Scott McGhee d. Ricky Ferrara Frank Monte d. Ricky Harris Ron Ritchie d. Jim Nelson Austin Idol d. Ron Ritchie Leroy Brown d. Ole Anderson Jay Youngblood d. Gene Anderson Mid-Atlantic Heavyweight Title: Ivan Koloff © d. Paul Jones in 22:00 Ric Flair d. Roddy Piper JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – June 20, 1981 (4,103) Frank Monte d. Charlie Fulton Mike Davis d. Sgt. Jacques Goulet Mr. Wrestling II d. El Toro Dewey Robertson & Johnny Weaver d. Chris Markoff & Nikolai Volkoff by DQ Wahoo McDaniel d. Austin Idol by DQ Leroy Brown d. Greg Valentine Ric Flair battled Ivan Koloff to a double countout JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – July 5, 1981 (8,149) Terry Latham d. Mike Miller Ali Bey d. Ron Ritchie Jimmy Valiant d. Dewey Robertson Gene & Ole Anderson d. Leroy Brown & Sweet Ebony Diamond Ricky Steamboat d. Austin Idol by DQ Steel Cage Match for the Mid-Atlantic Heavyweight Title: Ric Flair d. Ivan Koloff © by DQ US Heavyweight Title: Roddy Piper © d. Wahoo McDaniel JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – July 25, 1981 Leroy Brown & Dewey Robertson d. Greg Valentine & Jimmy Valiant Indian Strap Match: Wahoo McDaniel d. Roddy Piper NWA World Tag Titles: Gene & Ole Anderson © d. Ric Flair & Jay Youngblood JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – August 8, 1981 Ron Bass vs. Iron Sheik Mid-Atlantic Heavyweight Title: Ivan Koloff © vs. Ricky Steamboat NWA World Tag Titles: Gene & Ole Anderson © vs. Blackjack Mulligan & Ric Flair US Heavyweight Title: Wahoo McDaniel d. Roddy Piper © JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – August 22, 1981 (4,139) Terry Latham & Jake Roberts d. Sgt. Jacques Goulet & Jimmy Valiant NWA World TV Title: Leroy Brown d. Greg Valentine © in 22:00 well past TV title time limit Ric Flair & Wahoo McDaniel d. Ole Anderson & Mr. Fuji Mid-Atlantic Heavyweight Title: Ron Bass d. Ivan Koloff © by DQ JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – September 5, 1981 (9,639) Mike Davis d. El Toro Jake Roberts d. Sgt. Jacques Goulet Paul Jones d. Jimmy Valiant Abdullah the Butcher & Roddy Piper battled Ron Bass & Wahoo McDaniel to a no contest NWA World Heavyweight Title: Dusty Rhodes © d. Greg Valentine by DQ Texas Bullrope Match: Ric Flair d. Ole Anderson JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – October 10, 1981 Mike Davis d. Tony Russo Sgt. Jacques Goulet d. Tony Anthony Don Kernodle d. Mike Miller Ron Ritchie d. Ricky Harris Sgt. Slaughter d. Sweet Ebony Diamond Leroy Brown d. Ole Anderson Mid-Atlantic Heavyweight Title: Ricky Steamboat d. Ivan Koloff © Wahoo McDaniel d. Roddy Piper JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – November 1, 1981 Buddy Landell d. Mike Miller Blackjack Mulligan Jr. d. Jim Nelson The Ninja d. Mike Davis Jimmy Valiant d. Ricky Harris The Grappler d. Jay Youngblood Gene & Ole Anderson d. Wahoo McDaniel & Jake Roberts Mid-Atlantic Heavyweight Title: Roddy Piper d. Ricky Steamboat © US Heavyweight Title: Leroy Brown d. Sgt. Slaughter © by DQ JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – November 26, 1981 (15,136) Carl Fergie d. Mike Davis Jake Roberts d. Mike Davis Ivan Koloff d. Keith Larsen Blackjack Mulligan Jr. d. Carl Fergie Roddy Piper battled Ricky Steamboat to a DDQ Angelo Mosca d. Buddy Landell Greg Valentine d. Tony Anthony Sgt. Slaughter d. Johnny Weaver Ivan Koloff d. Jake Roberts Cadillac Cup - Finals: Blackjack Mulligan Jr. d. Ivan Koloff by DQ Lights Out Match: Blackjack Mulligan battled Big John Studd to a no contest Steel Cage Match for the NWA World Heavyweight Title: Ric Flair © d. Ole Anderson JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliusem – December 13, 1981 (4,100) Jim Nelson d. Don Kernodle Paul Jones d. Mike Miller The Ninja d. Ron Bass Jake Roberts d. Ivan Koloff US Heavyweight Title vs. Cadillac: Sgt. Slaughter d. Blackjack Mulligan Jr. Ricky Steamboat & Ray Stevens d. Ole Anderson & Roddy Piper Steel Cage Match: Blackjack Mulligan d. Big John Studd JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – December 27, 1981 (6,413) Tony Anthony fought Keith Larsen to a draw Terry Taylor d. Tony Russo Jimmy Valiant d. Carl Fergie Loser Leaves Town Match: The Ninja d. Paul Jones Mid-Atlantic Heavyweight Title: Ricky Steamboat © d. Roddy Piper Elimination Match: Blackjack Mulligan Jr., Jake Roberts, & Ray Stevens d. Gene & Ole Anderson, & Ivan Koloff US Heavyweight Title: Sgt. Slaughter © d. Blackjack Mulligan JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – January 3, 1982 Terry Taylor d. Jim Nelson Mike Davis & Buddy Landell d. Chris Markoff & Mike Miller The Ninja d. Johnny Weaver Street Fight w/Gene Anderson handcuffed to the post: Ray Stevens d. Ole Anderson Roddy Piper d. Ricky Steamboat 2 referees: Blackjack Mulligan battled Sgt. Slaughter to a DDQ in 16:00 No DQ for the NWA World Heavyweight Title: Ric Flair © d. Big John Studd in 27:00 JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – January 17, 1982 (3,846) Terry Taylor d. Chris Markoff Jim Nelson d. Jay Youngblood Michael Hayes & Jimmy Valiant d. Terry Gordy & Austin Idol Ray Stevens d. The Ninja Ray Stevens d. Gene Anderson Blackjack Mulligan Jr. & Jake Roberts d. Ox Baker & Carl Fergie Ricky Steamboat d. Billy Robinson (subbing for Ivan Koloff) NWA World Heavyweight Title: Ric Flair © d. Sgt. Slaughter by DQ JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – February 7, 1982 Keith Larsen d. Mike Miller Don Kernodle d. Tim Horner Mike Davis d. Chris Markoff Porkchop Cash & Jay Youngblood d. Carl Fergie & Jim Nelson Jake Roberts d. Big John Studd by DQ Lumberjack Match: Blackjack Mulligan Jr. d. Sgt. Slaughter NWA World Heavyweight Title: Ricky Steamboat d. Ric Flair © by DQ JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – February 21, 1982 Terry Taylor d. David Patterson Carl Fergie d. Vinnie Valentino Don Kernodle d. Abe Jacobs Blackjack Mulligan Jr. & Jake Roberts d. Jim Nelson & Sgt. Slaughter Tommy Rich d. Super Destroyer NWA World Heavyweight Title: Ric Flair © d. Ricky Steamboat JCP @ Greensboro, NC - Coliseum - March 13, 1982 Tony Anthony d. Bill White David Patterson d. Tim Horner Johnny Weaver d. Carl Fergie Jerry Brisco & Jake Roberts d. Austin Idol & Big John Studd Jack Brisco d. Roddy Piper by DQ Ole Anderson & Stan Hansen d. Dusty Rhodes & Ray Stevens by DQ Ricky Steamboat d. Sgt. Slaughter JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – April 3, 1982 Mike Davis d. Jeff Sword Vinnie Valentino d. Bill White Ron Ritchie d. Ben Alexander Kelly Kiniski d. Chris Markoff Jimmy Valiant d. Ivan Koloff Gene & Ole Anderson, & Stan Hansen d. Jack & Jerry Brisco, & Ric Flair Mid-Atlantic Heavyweight Title: Roddy Piper © d. Bob Armstrong JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – May 2, 1982 David Patterson fought Mike Rotundo to a draw Killer Khan d. Keith Larsen Magnificent Muraco d. Carl Fergie Jack Brisco d. Gene Anderson Ivan Koloff & The Ninja d. Jake Roberts & Jimmy Valiant US Heavyweight Title: Wahoo McDaniel © d. Sgt. Slaughter NWA World Heavyweight Title: Ric Flair © d. Angelo Mosca by DQ JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – June 6, 1982 Terry Gibbs d. David Patterson Ron Ritchie d. Bill White Jim Dalton d. Keith Larsen Mike Rotundo d. Carl Fergie Juan Reynosa d. Tim Horner Iceman Parsons & Mike Rotundo d. Gene Anderson & Iron Sheik Paul Jones d. The Ninja Jack Brisco d. Roddy Piper Canadian Lumberjack Match: Wahoo McDaniel d. Sgt. Slaughter JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – July 3, 1982 Tim Horner d. Bill White David Patterson d. Kelly Kiniski Mike Rotundo d. Jim Dalton Matt Borne d. Ron Ritchie Paul Jones & Jake Roberts d. Gene Anderson & The Ninja Jack Brisco d. Roddy Piper Steel Cage Match: Ivan Koloff d. Jimmy Valiant NWA World Heavyweight Title: Ric Flair © d. Wahoo McDaniel by DQ JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – July 17, 1982 Ron Ritchie d. The Monk Mike Rotundo d. Juan Reynosa Gene Anderson d. Johnny Weaver Don Kernodle & Jim Nelson d. Porkchop Cash & Iceman Parsons Wenona Little Heart d. Evelyn Stevens Paul Jones d. Angelo Mosca Sgt. Slaughter d. Wahoo McDaniel by DQ Jack & Jerry Brisco d. Magnificent Muraco & Roddy Piper JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – August 7, 1982 Bill White d. Mike Davis Ron Ritchie d. Ken Timbs Kelly Kiniski d. Juan Reynosa Mike Rotundo d. David Patterson Gene Anderson & Angelo Mosca d. Johnny Weaver & Jay Youngblood Ricky Steamboat d. Leroy Brown New York Street Fight: Jimmy Valiant d. Ivan Koloff by DQ NWA World Heavyweight Title: Wahoo McDaniel d. Ric Flair © by DQ JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – August 21, 1982 Ali Bey d. Keith Larsen Ron Ritchie d. Ben Alexander Kelly Kiniski d. Juan Reynosa Jerry Brisco, Roddy Piper, & Mike Rotundo d. Ric Flair, Paul Jones, & Sir Oliver Humperdink Siberian Salt Miners Glove Match: Jimmy Valiant d. Ivan Koloff Lumberjack Match: Wahoo McDaniel d. Sgt. Slaughter JCP @ Greensboro, NC - Coliseum - September 4, 1982 Wahoo McDaniel vs. Greg Valentine JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – September 18, 1982 Keith Larsen d. The Pro Iceman Parsons d. Juan Reynosa Mike Rotundo d. Ben Alexander Ron Ritchie d. Jim Nelson Ricky Steamboat d. Leroy Brown Paul Jones & Greg Valentine d. Jack & Jerry Brisco Handicap Match: Wahoo McDaniel d. Abdullah the Butcher & Sir Oliver Humperdink JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – October 2, 1982 Ken Hall d. Rick Connors Gene Anderson d. Keith Larsen Johnny Weaver d. Jim Nelson Don Kernodle & Greg Valentine d. Porkchop Cash & Jay Youngblood NWA World TV Title: Jimmy Valiant d. Jos LeDuc © by DQ No DQ Match for the US Heavyweight Title: Wahoo McDaniel © d. Sgt. Slaughter JCP @ Greensboro, NC - Coliseum - October 23, 1982 Wahoo McDaniel d. Greg Valentine JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – November 6, 1982 Masa Fuchi d. Gary Black Iceman Parsons d. Frank Monte Johnny Weaver d. Ricky Harris Keith Larsen d. Bill White Ron Ritchie d. Jim Dalton Mid-Atlantic Heavyweight Title: Paul Jones © d. Jack Brisco Jimmy Valiant d. Jos LeDuc Ricky Steamboat & Jay Youngblood d. Don Kernodle & Sgt. Slaughter NWA World Heavyweight Title: Ric Flair © d. Dusty Rhodes by DQ JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – November 25, 1982 Frank Monte d. Ron Ritchie Johnny Weaver d. Ken Timbs Bob Orton Jr. d. Jim Nelson Mike Davis d. Masa Fuchi 20 Man Battle Royal for the vacant NWA World TV Title: Leroy Brown d. Sweet Brown Sugar Steel Cage Match: Abdullah the Butcher & Jimmy Valiant d. Jos LeDuc & Sir Oliver Humperdink Jack Brisco d. Greg Valentine NWA World Heavyweight Title: Ric Flair © d. Roddy Piper by DQ JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – December 26, 1982 One Man Gang d. Mike Davis Jerry Brisco & Bob Orton Jr. d. Gene Anderson & Masa Fuchi NWA World TV Title: Mike Rotundo © d. Paul Jones Mid-Atlantic Heavyweight Title: Jack Brisco © d. Bruiser Brody by DQ $10,000 Challenge: SR – Earnie Shavers: Sweet Brown Sugar d. Dory Funk Jr but Sugar doesn't win in 15:00 Texas Death Match: Roddy Piper d. Greg Valentine Ricky Steamboat & Jay Youngblood d. Don Kernodle & Sgt. Slaughter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted February 1, 2013 Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 Looking at the 77-79 results, it doesn't seem like Flair or Steamboat (or Greg Valentine) were guys who were going get you big crowds. They seemed to be drawing your bread and butter fans around 5-7,000, but only one show headlined by Flair and Steamboat goes over 10,000 and that had a pretty stacked undercard with Mulligan vs. Big John Studd and Jones vs. Orndorff for the Mid-Atlantic title. One show headlined by Flair-Steamboat goes as low as 3,000. Of the other two shows that go over 10,000, I don't believe it's Snuka vs. Tim Woods getting 11,000 people, it's the appearance of Andre in a battle royale. That has a been a constant, Andre on the card, 10,000+. The other one, is interesting: JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – November 23, 1978 (13,447) Steve Regal d. Frank Monte Don Kernodle d. Steve Muslin Richard Blood & Gary Young d. Mr. X #1 & Mr. X #2 Johnny Weaver & Jay Youngblood d. Brute Bernard & Swede Hanson Mid-Atlantic Heavyweight Title: Tony Atlas d. Ken Patera © Ricky Steamboat d. Big John Studd Steel Cage Match for the US Heavyweight Title: Ric Flair © d. Blackjack Mulligan Is that because: 1. Atlas/ Patera, Steamboat/Studd is a hot undercard or 2. Because it was Thanksgiving? Andre was a huge draw everywhere, especially Andre in a Battle Royal. That card did huge because it was Thanksgiving. That's not to say the other things weren't factors. Flair/Mulligan was an extremely hot feud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Waco Posted February 1, 2013 Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 Yeah Flair v. Mulligan feud is still talked about. Atlas v. Patera is an angle/feud that is also fondly remembered by MACW people, though I wouldn't give it much credit for that number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted February 1, 2013 Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 1983-84 and I'm stopping with 1984 because that is the last year of JCP being just a regional. JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – January 2, 1983 Frank Monte d. Ricky Harris Vinnie Valentino d. Bill White Tommy Gilbert d. Masa Fuchi Abdullah the Butcher & Jimmy Valiant d. Gene Anderson & One Man Gang US Heavyweight Title: Greg Valentine © d. Bob Orton Jr. NWA World Tag Titles: Ricky Steamboat & Jay Youngblood d. Don Kernodle & Sgt. Slaughter © by DQ NWA World Heavyweight Title: Ric Flair © d. Roddy Piper JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – January 23, 1983 One Man Gang d. Jimmy Valiant Tiny Tom d. Little Tokyo Jack Brisco, Mike Rotundo, & Sweet Brown Sugar d. Dory Funk Jr., Paul Jones, & Red Dog Lane Jerry Brisco & Roddy Piper d. Dick Slater & Greg Valentine Don Kernodle & Sgt. Slaughter d. Ricky Steamboat & Jay Youngblood JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – February 5, 1983 Iceman Parsons & Greg Valentine d. Masa Fuchi & Ken Timbs Dizzy Hogan d. Bill White Dusty Rhodes d. Gene Anderson Jimmy Valiant d. One Man Gang Dick Slater d. Jerry Brisco Ricky Steamboat & Jay Youngblood battled Don Kernodle & Sgt. Slaughter to a no contest JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – February 20, 1983 Dizzy Hogan & Sweet Brown Sugar d. Ricky Harris & Bill White Red Dog Lane d. Ricky Morton Jack Brisco d. Rufus R. Jones Dick Slater d. Jerry Brisco New York Street Fight: Jimmy Valiant d. One Man Gang Ricky Steamboat & Jay Youngblood d. Ric Flair & Greg Valentine Don Kernodle & Sgt. Slaughter d. Dory & Terry Funk JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – April 3, 1983 Red Dog Lane d. Mike Davis Jake Roberts d. Vinnie Valentino Mike Rotundo d. Gene Anderson The Great Kabuki, Don Kernodle, & Sgt. Slaughter d. Jim Nelson, Ricky Steamboat, & Jay Youngblood Jack & Jerry Brisco d. Dory Funk Jr. & Paul Jones NWA World TV Title: Dick Slater d. Roddy Piper © Andre the Giant, Bugsy McGraw, & Jimmy Valiant d. One Man Gang, Greg Valentine, & Sir Oliver Humperdink JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – April 16, 1983 Bill White d. Wayne Jones Jim Nelson d. Ken Timbs Gene Anderson d. Mike Davis Jack & Jerry Brisco d. Masa Fuchi & Red Dog Lane Jimmy Valiant d. The Great Kabuki US Heavyweight Title: Roddy Piper d. Greg Valentine © NWA World Tag Titles: Don Kernodle & Sgt. Slaughter d. Ricky Steamboat & Jay Youngblood © by DQ JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – May 1, 1983 Keith Larsen d. Ken Timbs Jos LeDuc d. Ricky Harris Bugsy McGraw d. One Man Gang Dick Slater d. Sweet Brown Sugar Jack & Jerry Brisco d. Gene Anderson & Angelo Mosca Jake Roberts d. Mike Graham Street Fight: Jimmy Valiant d. The Great Kabuki US Heavyweight Title: Greg Valentine d. Roddy Piper © Steel Cage No DQ Match for the NWA World Tag Titles: Ricky Steamboat & Jay Youngblood d. Don Kernodle & Sgt. Slaughter JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – May 21, 1983 Keith Larsen d. Masa Fuchi Bill White d. Ken Hall Gene Anderson & The Magic Dragon d. Rick Connors & Vinnie Valentino Johnny Weaver d. Ricky Harris Rufus R. Jones d. Jake Roberts The Great Kabuki d. Jimmy Valiant US Heavyweight Title: Greg Valentine © d. Jos LeDuc NWA World Tag Titles: Jack & Jerry Brisco d. Ricky Steamboat & Jay Youngblood © by DQ JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – July 2, 1983 Gene Anderson d. Joel Deaton Susan Starr d. Leilani Kai Dick Slater d. John Bonello Rufus R. Jones & Jimmy Valiant d. The Great Kabuki & Gary Hart Dory Funk Jr. & Greg Valentine battled Wahoo McDaniel & Roddy Piper to a no contest Jack & Jerry Brisco d. Ricky Steamboat & Jay Youngblood NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © d. Ric Flair by DQ JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – July 17, 1983 NWA World Heavyweight Title: Ric Flair d. Harley Race © by DQ JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – August 7, 1983 Rick McGraw d. Bill Howard Gene Anderson d. Keith Larsen The Assassin d. Steve Muslin Jimmy Valiant d. The Great Kabuki Rufus R. Jones & Bugsy McGraw d. Dory Funk Jr. & Jake Roberts Indian Strap: Wahoo McDaniel & Roddy Piper d. Dick Slater & Greg Valentine NWA World Heavyweight Title: Harley Race © d. Bob Orton Jr. Ric Flair & Ricky Steamboat d. Jack & Jerry Brisco by DQ JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – August 21, 1983 Loser Leaves Town: The Great Kabuki d. Jimmy Valiant JCP @ Greensboro, NC - Coliseum - September 3, 1983 Bill Howard d. Mike Davis Keith Larsen d. Sgt. Jacques Goulet Gene Anderson d. Vinnie Valentino Kelly Kiniski d. Mike Rotundo Rufus R. Jones & Wahoo McDaniel d. Jake Roberts & Dick Slater Lumberjack Match: Roddy Piper d. Greg Valentine No DQ Match: Ricky Steamboat & Jay Youngblood d. Jack & Jerry Brisco JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – September 18, 1983 The Ninja d. Bret Hart Gene Anderson d. Vinnie Valentino Charlie Brown & Bugsy McGraw d. The Great Kabuki & Dick Slater Lumberjack Match: Wahoo McDaniel d. Greg Valentine Ricky Steamboat & Jay Youngblood d. Jack & Jerry Brisco JCP @ Greensboro, NC - Coliseum - September 24, 1983 The Assassins d. Scott McGhee & Steve Muslin Bob Orton Jr. d. Keith Larsen Gene Anderson d. John Bonello Barry Hart d. Tom Lintz Taped Fist Match: Wahoo McDaniel d. Dick Slater Bounty Match: Baron Von Raschke d. Charlie Brown Ricky Steamboat & Jay Youngblood d. Jack & Jerry Brisco JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – October 8, 1983 Rick McCord d. Tom Lintz Mark Lewin & Kevin Sullivan d. John Bonello & Vinnie Valentino Rufus R. Jones d. Dory Funk Jr. Bugsy McGraw & Mark Youngblood d. The Assassins Charlie Brown & Roddy Piper d. Baron Von Raschke & Gary Hart Ric Flair & Wahoo McDaniel battled Bob Orton Jr. & Dick Slater to a DDQ NWA World Tag Titles: Ricky Steamboat & Jay Youngblood d. Jack & Jerry Brisco © JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – October 16, 1983 Dory Funk Jr., Bugsy McGraw, & Mark Youngblood d. The Assassins & Paul Jones Scott McGhee d. Magic Dragon Terry Gibbs d. Tom Lintz Gene Anderson d. Keith Larsen Jack & Jerry Brisco d. Ricky Steamboat & Jay Youngblood Wahoo McDaniel d. Dick Slater by DQ Steel Cage Match: Charlie Brown vs. Baron Von Raschke Ric Flair d. Bob Orton Jr. JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – November 24, 1983 (15,447) (Starrcade 83) Rufus R. Jones & Bugsy McGraw d. The Assassins Mark Lewin & Kevin Sullivan d. Scott McGhee & Johnny Weaver Abdullah the Butcher d. Carlos Colon Bob Orton Jr. & Dick Slater d. Wahoo McDaniel & Mark Youngblood NWA World TV Title vs. Mask: Charlie Brown d. The Great Kabuki © Dog Collar Match: Roddy Piper d. Greg Valentine NWA World Tag Titles: Ricky Steamboat & Jay Youngblood d. Jack & Jerry Brisco © NWA World Heavyweight Title: Ric Flair d. Harley Race © JCP @ Greensboro, NC - Coliseum - December 26, 1983 Keith Larsen d. Jerry Grey Gene Anderson d. John Bonello Wahoo McDaniel & Angelo Mosca d. Don Kernodle & Bob Orton Jr. Dick Slater d. Rufus R. Jones Jimmy Valiant d. The Great Kabuki The Assassins d. Dory Funk Jr. & Johnny Weaver Steel Cage Match: Ricky Steamboat & Jay Youngblood d. Jack & Jerry Brisco Dog Collar Match: Roddy Piper d. Greg Valentine JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – January 15, 1984 (5,100) Barry Orton d. Sam Houston Angelo Mosca Jr. d. Gene Anderson Ernie Ladd d. Angelo Mosca NWA World Tag Titles: Don Kernodle & Bob Orton Jr. © d. Wahoo McDaniel & Mark Youngblood Ricky Steamboat d. Ivan Koloff Dusty Rhodes, Baron Von Raschke, & Jimmy Valiant d. The Assassins & Paul Jones US Heavyweight Title: Dick Slater © d. Greg Valentine by DQ JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – February 18, 1984 Barry Orton d. Keith Larsen Tim Horner d. Bill White Tully Blanchard d. Mark Fleming Bubba Smith d. Tony Russo Angelo Mosca Jr. d. Ivan Koloff Wahoo McDaniel & Mark Youngblood d. Don Kernodle & Bob Orton Jr. by DQ Greg Valentine d. Dick Slater by DQ Dusty Rhodes & Jimmy Valiant d. The Assassins JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – March 17, 1984 Tully Blanchard d. Dory Funk Jr. Rufus R. Jones d. Ernie Ladd Wahoo McDaniel & Mark Youngblood d. Don Kernodle & Bob Orton Jr. Junkyard Dog, Angelo Mosca, & Angelo Mosca Jr. d. The Great Kabuki, Ivan Koloff, & Gary Hart No DQ Steel Cage Match for the US Heavyweight Title: Dick Slater © d. Greg Valentine NWA World Heavyweight Title: Ric Flair © fought Ricky Steamboat to a 60:00 draw Hair vs. Mask w/Paul Jones tied to Dusty Rhodes: Jimmy Valiant d. Assassin #2 revealing Hercules Hernandez JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – March 25, 1984 Barry Hart d. Ali Bey Brian Adias d. Bobby Bass Johnny Weaver d. Doug Vines Jay Youngblood d. Tully Blanchard Angelo Mosca Jr. d. The Great Kabuki Angelo Mosca d. Ivan Koloff The Assassin d. Jimmy Valiant Paul Jones d. Jimmy Valiant Wahoo McDaniel & Mark Youngblood d. Don Kernodle & Bob Orton Jr. Dick Slater d. Junkyard Dog JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – April 1, 1984 Larry Hamilton d. Jeff Sword Doug Vines d. Sam Houston Barry Orton d. Mark Fleming Adrian Street d. Keith Larsen Tully Blanchard d. Brian Adias Tully Blanchard d. Larry Hamilton Junkyard Dog d. Ernie Ladd Handicap Match: Angelo Mosca d. Ivan Koloff & Gary Hart Jack & Jerry Brisco d. Junkyard Dog & Mark Youngblood JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – April 21, 1984 Larry Hamilton & Sam Houston d. Gary Royal & Doug Vines Brian Adias d. Kurt Von Hess The Great Kabuki d. Johnny Weaver The Assassin d. Angelo Mosca Dusty Rhodes d. Adrian Street by DQ Jack & Jerry Brisco d. Pez Whatley & Jay Youngblood Steel Cage Match: Jimmy Valiant d. Paul Jones US Heavyweight Title: Ricky Steamboat d. Dick Slater © JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – May 5, 1984 Mark Fleming d. Bobby Bass Johnny Weaver d. Bob Orton Jr. Brian Adias d. Doug Vines Pez Whatley d. Jeff Sword Ernie Ladd d. Rufus R. Jones Wahoo McDaniel d. Tully Blanchard Ricky Steamboat d. Dick Slater NWA World Tag Titles: Wahoo McDaniel & Mark Youngblood d. Jack & Jerry Brisco © JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – May 19, 1984 Doug Vines d. Keith Larsen Kurt Von Hess d. Gary Royal Paul Kelly d. Sam Houston Dick Slater d. Barry Hart Angelo Mosca d. The Assassin Jimmy Valiant d. Adrian Street Tully Blanchard d. Wahoo McDaniel Don Kernodle & Ivan Koloff d. Pez Whatley & Mark Youngblood JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – June 9, 1984 Jesse Barr d. Keith Larsen Doug Vines d. Mark Fleming Jeff Sword d. Sam Houston Barry Hart d. Bobby Bass Rufus R. Jones & Pez Whatley d. The Assassin & Paul Jones by DQ The Outlaw d. Angelo Mosca Jr. Ricky Steamboat d. The Outlaw NWA World Tag Titles: Don Kernodle & Ivan Koloff © d. Renegade & Mark Youngblood JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – June 24, 1984 Mark Fleming d. Paul Kelly Keith Larsen d. Kurt Von Hess Nikita Koloff d. Barry Hart Johnny Weaver d. Tully Blanchard The Outlaw & Gary Hart d. Rufus R. Jones & Angelo Mosca Jr. NWA World Tag Titles: Don Kernodle & Ivan Koloff © d. Renegade & Mark Youngblood US Heavyweight Title: Wahoo McDaniel d. Ricky Steamboat © JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – July 7, 1984 Sam Houston d. Ali Bey Tom Shaft d. Kurt Von Hess Buzz Sawyer d. Johnny Weaver Rufus R. Jones d. Jesse Barr Adrian Street d. Paul Jones by DQ Jimmy Valiant d. Kamala Tully Blanchard d. Ricky Steamboat by DQ NWA World Heavyweight Title: Ric Flair © d. Wahoo McDaniel JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – July 21, 1984 Sam Houston d. Jesse Barr Buzz Sawyer d. Barry Hart Nikita Koloff d. Vinnie Valentino Tully Blanchard d. Pez Whatley Don Kernodle & Ivan Koloff d. Renegade & Mark Youngblood Wahoo McDaniel d. Ricky Steamboat by DQ Rufus R. Jones, Adrian Street, & Jimmy Valiant d. The Assassins & Paul Jones JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – August 18, 1984 Denny Brown d. Paul Kelly Ron Bass & Black Bart d. Brian Adias & Rufus R. Jones Renegade d. Don Kernodle by DQ Dusty Rhodes d. Assassin #3 Barry Windham d. Ivan Koloff Taped Fist Match: The Assassin d. Jimmy Valiant Tully Blanchard fought Ricky Steamboat to a draw NWA World Heavyweight Title: Ric Flair © d. Wahoo McDaniel by DQ JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – September 1, 1984 Denny Brown d. Mike Fever Sam Houston d. Jeff Sword Jay Youngblood d. Assassin #3 Dusty Rhodes d. Don Kernodle Texas Death Match: The Assassin d. Jimmy Valiant Mid-Atlantic Tag Titles: Ron Bass & Black Bart d. Brian Adias & Angelo Mosca Jr. © Mike Rotundo & Barry Windham d. Ivan & Nikita Koloff Blackjack Mulligan & Ric Flair battled Tully Blanchard & Wahoo McDaniel to a DDQ JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – September 22, 1984 Brian Adias d. Mike Fever Mike Rotundo d. Don Kernodle Denny Brown & Johnny Weaver d. The Zambuie Express Mike Davis & Jay Youngblood d. Ron Bass & Black Bart Barry Windham d. Wahoo McDaniel New York Street Fight: Jimmy Valiant d. The Assassin Ricky Steamboat fought Tully Blanchard to a draw JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – October 6, 1984 Nikita Koloff d. Mike Davis Ron Bass d. Jay Youngblood Manny Fernandez d. Wahoo McDaniel by countout Don Kernodle & Ivan Koloff d. Brian Adias & Ole Anderson Tully Blanchard d. Ricky Steamboat by DQ JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – October 20, 1984 Joel Deaton d. Jeff Sword Handicap Match: Nikita Koloff d. Mark Fleming & Brett Hart Black Bart d. Keith Larsen The Zambuie Express d. Mike Davis & Sam Houston NWA World TV Title: Tully Blanchard © d. Brian Adias US Heavyweight Title: Wahoo McDaniel © d. Jimmy Valiant NWA World Tag Titles: Dusty Rhodes & Manny Fernandez d. Don Kernodle & Ivan Koloff © JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – November 22, 1984 (Starrcade 84) NWA World Jr. Heavyweight Title: Denny Brown d. Mike Davis © Brian Adias d. Masao Ito Jesse Barr d. Mike Graham The Assassin & Buzz Tyler d. The Zambuie Express Manny Fernandez d. Black Bart Ivan & Nikita Koloff d. Ole Anderson & Keith Larsen Loser Leaves Town Tuxedo Street Fight: Paul Jones d. Jimmy Valiant Ron Bass d. Dick Slater by DQ NWA World TV Title: Tully Blanchard © d. Ricky Steamboat US Heavyweight Title: Wahoo McDaniel © d. Superstar Billy Graham NWA World Heavyweight Title – SR: Joe Frazier: Ric Flair © d. Dusty Rhodes JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – December 8, 1984 (3,677) The American Starship d. Paul Kelly & Jeff Sword Mr. Kareem Muhammad d. Brian Adias The Assassin d. Gary Royal Dusty Rhodes, Manny Fernandez, & Keith Larsen d. Ivan & Nikita Koloff, & Krusher Khruschev NWA World Jr. Heavyweight Title: Denny Brown © d. Sam Houston Dick Slater & Ricky Steamboat d. Ron Bass & Black Bart US Heavyweight Title: Wahoo McDaniel © d. Buzz Tyler NWA World Heavyweight Title: Ric Flair © d. Tully Blanchard JCP @ Greensboro, NC – Coliseum – December 30, 1984 Tommy Lane & Johnny Weaver d. Joel Deaton & Inferno #2 Steve Casey d. Super Destroyer Magnum T.A. d. Doug Vines Superstar Billy Graham d. Mike Davis Nikita Koloff d. Manny Fernandez Don Kernodle d. Ivan Koloff Buzz Tyler d. Mr. Kareem Muhammad Bunkhouse Match: Dusty Rhodes, Dick Slater, & Ricky Steamboat d. Ron Bass, Black Bart, & Tully Blanchard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohtani's jacket Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 So, as an offshoot of Harley in Texas I've really been digging Flair in Texas lately. I haven't been able to see his more famous stuff with Kerry since I think the WWE has released it on DVD and therefore it tends to get yanked, but I've dug the stuff with David and Kevin. I especially like how Kevin's barefoot style, obsession with the head scissors and reckless attacking style make him seem like some kind of 1998 Sakuraba PRIDE opponent. One thing I get but don't really get is why the Von Erich kids get so psychopathic in the post match beat downs. I don't think I've ever seen faces behave like that. Oftentimes it's hard to justify what Harley or Flair did wrong to get laid out so badly. Can anybody more familiar with Texas explain this to me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 One thing I get but don't really get is why the Von Erich kids get so psychopathic in the post match beat downs. I don't think I've ever seen faces behave like that. Oftentimes it's hard to justify what Harley or Flair did wrong to get laid out so badly. Can anybody more familiar with Texas explain this to me? Coke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyonthewall2983 Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 Texas booger sugar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 Do you remember we were talking about wrestling and PhD theses? As I suspected, it has been done. I just stumbled on this: http://www.wrestlingperspective.com/AcademicBooks.html I must admit to wincing a few times reading some of the quotations there. Those writers have not done academics proud at all. I do think it could be done though, but it has to be by someone who is a massive wrestling fan first and an academic second. I have thought before about writing a book about the changing face of good and evil in the American popular consciousness during the 20th century. In short, why fans cheered Hogan in the 80s and booed Angle in the late 90s or why they booed Bad News Brown but cheered Austin. Or why Batman went from being a nice superhero to a super-dark-asshole. Wrestling would only be one case study among several, but that's the sort of context in which I could see wrestling being used. Do you remember when they did those cringe-worthy "debates" between JR, Lawler and Mohammed Hassan? I could also see someone writing a pretty good essay on that. I also think it's interesting that guys with characters like Flair and DiBiase as Million Dollar Man were heels in Reagan's America -- the feud between Dusty and Flair is in direct contrast with the aspirational values of US entertainment. If you look at American TV shows, especially those made in the 80s, like Dynasty or Dallas, they are always focused on rich and successful people. There's an in-built layer of aspiration there -- you can see this most readily if you contrast it with British soaps like Eastenders and Coronation Street, which are ... not at all aspirational, working class, and downbeat. American TV focuses on winners, British TV, at least historically, has focused on losers. But the wrestling equivalent of Dynasty was Flair, and Flair was a heel. Dusty was a plumber's son and a "working man" -- someone who was basically excluded from the picture of the world you got Dynasty. I find that interesting. That's the sort of stuff I could see people writing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdw Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 Do you remember we were talking about wrestling and PhD theses? As I suspected, it has been done. I just stumbled on this: http://www.wrestlingperspective.com/AcademicBooks.html Known. I suspect a lot of us have read Wrestling to Rasslin. I've got a copy of it sitting on on of the shelves of my "wrestling book case" in my den. It's utter dogshit, and exactly the type of PhD paper that I was talking about. I've read the Ball book, and it's equally as shitty. I was smart enough to avoid the Mazer book. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyonthewall2983 Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 I also think it's interesting that guys with characters like Flair and DiBiase as Million Dollar Man were heels in Reagan's America -- the feud between Dusty and Flair is in direct contrast with the aspirational values of US entertainment. If you look at American TV shows, especially those made in the 80s, like Dynasty or Dallas, they are always focused on rich and successful people. With Rhodes and Flair, you can definitely see that those archetypes were tailor-made for the Southern blue collar audience which was the majority of their following. Which is to say that maybe the people putting on that product were more in tune with what was going on in that part of the country that a major network would have nary an idea about in comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 Well, one of them (Slaphappy) is actually pretty good as the author immerses himself pretty well (goes on an ECW bus trip, visits Hart House and witnesses Davey assaulting Diana, etc) and in general just does a solid job. The rest suck, though Wrestling to Rasslin has some nostalgia value from when I'd borrow it from the library. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 Thought this was an interesting review of the Mazer book, if only because of this person's apparent struggles in separating fact from fiction in dealing with Tom Zenk: In wrestling, the lariat or clothesline is a move in which a man is whipped from a standing position via a running straight arm to the throat, propelling him violently to the mat. It was both disappointing and strangely reassuring to find out, from Sharon Mazer's new book, that one of the very first skills a rookie wrestler is taught is the ability to "fall backwards, hitting the mat so it resonates loudly with his fall" precisely to effect this and related wrestling moves. The violent illusion of the lariat is lllustrative of what I think is one of Mazer's major points -namely that wrestling exchanges rely not only on the active co-operation of the wrestling opponent - to forward roll when he is supplexed, to crumple when he is hit, to stay down when he is booked to lose - but on the active complicity of the audience in the illusion of the real. As such. Mazer argues, wrestling is ultimately transgressive and subversive. That is, the wrestling performance reveals, by inference and extension, that society itself and its established protocols are a 'work' ( a social construction) that rely for their power on our complicity. Mazer wonders, but does not completely answer, why a wrestling audience would wish to be reminded of its own complicity in subjection. Perhaps, her book suggests, our willing subscription to the illusion of the wrestling performance is, in a very small way, the tangible proof of our larger individual freedom - to believe in social constructions/'works' or not to believe. I bought Mazer's book as part of my background research for a biography I'm writing of the pro-wrestler Tom Zenk. After some months I am still having considerable difficulty differentiating between Zenk the performer and Zenk the virtuous, masculine figure of his ring persona. I had been running the line of a high quality performer denied justice by the bookers but have now come to the realization, courtesy of Mazer's book, that in promoting this line I am possibly 'marking out' to an well -established wrestling storyline. Here is Mazer - "What fans come to recognize and interact with as they come inside the game is the play outside the play- first the signs of a hero [in my case Tom Zenk] or villain, then the inevitable failure of the representatives of authority in the ring to assure a fair fight and a just end, and finally that the true power lies not in the ring at all - but rather in the hands of the promoters whose purchase of a wrestler includes the right to dictate his success or failure. What is certain is not a Justice which is at last intelligible but an Injustice which is visible both in the dramaturgy of the performance and in the structure of the game itself, in the ongoing failure of authority to assert itself for the hero in the ring and in the success of the authority outside the ring, the promoter, as he dictates an outcome that negates the possibility of any real contest between men. It is not a fair fight, neither for the wrestlers in the ring nor for the wrestlers and the fans in relation to those in power." (Mazer, 1998: 153) But here's the dilemma that illustrates the point about wrestling that Mazer makes so articulately in her book- the probablity that what I had taken to be real in the Tom Zenk story - the complete submission of the heroic ring figure to the power of the promoter - is itself both a 'work' (a fabrication) and a 'shoot' (the real thing). The point appears to be that it is both and it is neither. Once again, it is too simple to see a wrestler such as Zenk - or indeed any worker, inside the ring or out - as the heroic 'victim' of the unscrupulous authority of other men.The reader like me who thus begins the journey from 'mark' to 'smart' is not engaged in a transition from credulous outsider to cynical or ironic disbeliever. The knowledgeable wrestling fan or 'smark' - as the name suggests is both 'smart' to wrestling's storylines, yet still more completely a consciously credulous participant (or willingly complicit 'mark') in the wrestling performance - as Mazer notes, actively seeking to be 'marked out' - to be fooled into believing that the 'wrestler was injured for real, that the fan rushed the ring for real, that the promoters grip over the wrestlers and the matches will slip, that the fight will be more than play'. The wrestling arena is thus a highly ambiguous space - for the period of the play at least. As such, it is a place that has been sanctioned by society for the unpacking and repacking of the normalizing discourses of masculinity, class, hierarchy, race, morality, etc. Mazer's discussion of the sexual ambiguities of pro-wrestling is particularly good. The heterosexual male gazing at the muscled bodied of the ring performer, confounds the prohibitions which 'normally' limit such a display to women and thus actively violates the protocols of masculinity - only to reaffirm them minutes later with the cry of 'faggot'. The wrestlers themselves present near naked male bodies that, in performance, touch and embrace, make a show of domination and submission that "resemble nothing so much as cliches of sexual engagement". - yet the routine discourse of wrestling is firecely heterosexual and heterosexist. In a memorable phrase Maxer captures the ambiguity when she writes - "To some degree a professional wrestler is always in drag, always enacting a parody of masculinity at the same time that he epitomizes it" (1998; 100) Overall, this book - like the story of the lariat - is both revealing and strangely re-affirming. Wrestling has often been dismissed as the lower end of "popular culture" but Mazer 's book contributes to its revaluation as something more complex and much more profound. If, ultimately, wrestling - as something visceral rather than rational - evades all attempts at a 'pin', nonetheless Mazer's effort - her 'work' so to speak- is both highly believable and really quite credible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdw Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 The reader like me who thus begins the journey from 'mark' to 'smart' is not engaged in a transition from credulous outsider to cynical or ironic disbeliever. The knowledgeable wrestling fan or 'smark' - as the name suggests is both 'smart' to wrestling's storylines, yet still more completely a consciously credulous participant (or willingly complicit 'mark') in the wrestling performance - as Mazer notes, actively seeking to be 'marked out' - to be fooled into believing that the 'wrestler was injured for real, that the fan rushed the ring for real, that the promoters grip over the wrestlers and the matches will slip, that the fight will be more than play'. Ah... I'm glad for that definition of "smark" - (willingly) fooled into believing the wrestler was injured for real. I like good selling of fake damage to a body part. I don't "believe" that body part was actually damaged, nor "willingly believe". There's a difference: (i) "Oh my good... he hurt Kawada's knee!!!!" (ii) "Kawada is selling the FUCK out of the knee!!!" John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohtani's jacket Posted March 30, 2013 Report Share Posted March 30, 2013 I watched Flair vs. Sam Houston for a second time today, which I think is the match everyone talks about, and while I wouldn't call it the most amazing pro-wrestling moment, it is a good studio match for what should ordinarily be a relatively straight forward squash match. I absolutely disagree with anybody who says Flair gives Houston as much as he'd give a Nikita or a Magnum, however. It didn't strike me as a formula match whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomk Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 Can a mod move the discussion of academic writing to the publications and podcasts subsection and out of the Flair one. Do you remember we were talking about wrestling and PhD theses? As I suspected, it has been done. I just stumbled on this: http://www.wrestlingperspective.com/AcademicBooks.html I must admit to wincing a few times reading some of the quotations there. Those writers have not done academics proud at all. I do think it could be done though, but it has to be by someone who is a massive wrestling fan first and an academic second. I have thought before about writing a book about the changing face of good and evil in the American popular consciousness during the 20th century. In short, why fans cheered Hogan in the 80s and booed Angle in the late 90s or why they booed Bad News Brown but cheered Austin. Or why Batman went from being a nice superhero to a super-dark-asshole. Wrestling would only be one case study among several, but that's the sort of context in which I could see wrestling being used. Do you remember when they did those cringe-worthy "debates" between JR, Lawler and Mohammed Hassan? I could also see someone writing a pretty good essay on that. I also think it's interesting that guys with characters like Flair and DiBiase as Million Dollar Man were heels in Reagan's America -- the feud between Dusty and Flair is in direct contrast with the aspirational values of US entertainment. If you look at American TV shows, especially those made in the 80s, like Dynasty or Dallas, they are always focused on rich and successful people. There's an in-built layer of aspiration there -- you can see this most readily if you contrast it with British soaps like Eastenders and Coronation Street, which are ... not at all aspirational, working class, and downbeat. American TV focuses on winners, British TV, at least historically, has focused on losers. But the wrestling equivalent of Dynasty was Flair, and Flair was a heel. Dusty was a plumber's son and a "working man" -- someone who was basically excluded from the picture of the world you got Dynasty. I find that interesting. That's the sort of stuff I could see people writing. 1) To see the feud between Dusty and Flair as a direct contrast to the values of the Reagan revolution would suggest a real misunderstanding of that period in US history. Reagan was not running as a royalist, he ran a populist campaign that appealed to massive resistance to the civil rights movement and to anti elitist values. It positioned sons of plumbers as faces. 2) There has been a ton of academic writing on pro-wrestling. I'd say the majority of it is as bad as the majority of non-academic writing on pro-wrestling. Things that I thought were well thought through: http://spq.sagepub.com/content/71/2/157.short Smith supposedly has a book coming out this year. http://sexualities.sagepub.com/content/1/3/275.abstract Levi has a book which I didn't think much of. http://www.peterlang.com/index.cfm?event=c...oncordeid=67270 This is book based on thesis work on culture of post 50s female fandom. I think I would prefer to read this as a dissertation than as a popular book as pieces of the argument seem to be lost in that translation. http://muse.jhu.edu/login?auth=0&type=...50.2portnoy.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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