Dylan Waco Posted October 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 I don't want to see Bryan wasted at Mania in a match with the turd who couldn't have a good match with Brock Lesnar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingears Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 He's programmed with Trips Alright, what about Bryan then? That one is tricky because it has to be someone linked to Trips but I don't think The Shield so maybe someone turning or coming back. Could maybe be Bryan versus Cena stemming from the seemingly inevitable Bella Twins explosion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawmic Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 He's programmed with Trips Alright, what about Bryan then? That one is tricky because it has to be someone linked to Trips but I don't think The Shield so maybe someone turning or coming back. I was thinking we're getting Cena vs Bryan at Survivor Series after that Bella mishap tonight + Cena can get his win back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 I think the ratings problems as well as house show attendances have spooked them about DB. He is getting great heat yeah but it's not moving the meter business wise. If you noticed in the WON there was a blurb about the philosophy about bringing in bigger guys is back in vogue again so take that for what it's worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nell Santucci Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 The problem is Orton of all people is holding the title. He's some guy whose been on top 5 years past his shelf life. He has the charisma of Curtis Axel and the working ability of Jeff Jarrett, making him barely more valuable than Del Rio. This product is clownish, and it's an utter absurdity that WWE expects people to watch 12 hours of Raw with such a wasteland for headliners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbo Slice Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 Let's be perfectly clear about something: It doesn't fucking matter if Bryan gets a pinfall over Triple H. Period. There's no rub there. Trips thinks there's a rub, but there's no rub. Bryan organically got over and they used it as a way to keep their egos in check with this storyline. If the end result is Trips thinking, "What will really get him over is me dropping a fall to me!" that's the dumbest thing I can think of. I'm gonna be the first one to say it. You know what Bryan needs to do now? He needs to be the one that ends The Streak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Waco Posted October 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 Bryan ending the streak would be the absolute worst thing that could happen for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbo Slice Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 I think the ratings problems as well as house show attendances have spooked them about DB. He is getting great heat yeah but it's not moving the meter business wise. If you noticed in the WON there was a blurb about the philosophy about bringing in bigger guys is back in vogue again so take that for what it's worth. That's not necessarily Bryan's fault. That's also the guy across from him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmare007 Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 They really went for another fuck finish with this feud, I want to say I'm shocked but sadly I'm not. Fucking up promising angles has been a staple of WWE in the last 5 years (Jericho/Michaels, Jericho/Rey and Edge/Taker are the last big programs I remember having a long build and a satisfying ending). If Shawn was going to superkick D-Bry it should have been a full fledged heel turn, not a half ass "he hurt my frieeend" homotional crap. Yes, this could lead to something if Michaels really turns on RAW or in the coming weeks but like I said on other threads, unless he's willing to get in the ring and put Bryan over, then there's little to be gained with him turning. Now, if all of this was made to give Shawn an excuse to make Orton win and not turn, then stupidity really knows no limits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbo Slice Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 Bryan ending the streak would be the absolute worst thing that could happen for him Worse than the last four months? Really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 Why would it be the worst thing for him Dylan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badlittlekitten Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 Nobody will accept Bryan ending the streak. It will kill him if anything. The only man to do that (and turn heel as a result) is Cena. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Q. Murder Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 HBK missed that kick by a mile, those bandy eyes have finally gotten the better of him. Was a joke finish really. HHH took a terrible bump off the knee also, time to cut these two chumps loose clearly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 I think the ratings problems as well as house show attendances have spooked them about DB. He is getting great heat yeah but it's not moving the meter business wise. If you noticed in the WON there was a blurb about the philosophy about bringing in bigger guys is back in vogue again so take that for what it's worth. Yeah and we all know that was completely Bryan's fault. I mean getting beat like a dog 8 shows in a row after Summerslam while being compared to a mid carder had nothing to do with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Waco Posted October 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 Bryan ending the streak would be the absolute worst thing that could happen for him Worse than the last four months? Really? Yes. Whoever ends the streak is going to get a tremendous amount of backlash because people absolutely do not want it to happen. Bryan ending the streak would kill his biggest asset (over with the live crowds to an absurd degree). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nell Santucci Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 I think the ratings problems as well as house show attendances have spooked them about DB. He is getting great heat yeah but it's not moving the meter business wise. If you noticed in the WON there was a blurb about the philosophy about bringing in bigger guys is back in vogue again so take that for what it's worth. That's obvious but a fact the IWC don't care to admit to. WWE has always done its worst business with smaller guys on top. It's a relic of 80's culture. Some guy on WC flipped out when I claimed this, even after justification. I've talked to way too many casuals who see Punk and Bryan as inferiors due to size, especially Punk. It's not WWE's fault imo that as a business it gives the public what it wants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 I usually try to stay even minded about this stuff but this fucking sucks. I mean I'm kind of ashamed of myself that I'll be 34 this week and I'm pissed off about a wrestling angle but whatever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 I can buy that. I don't buy it would be the worst thing for him since he is a pretty great heel. But yeah, even as Kris defends the booking, it still sucks and it kills Bryan being stuck with the Trips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Waco Posted October 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 The problem is the current model does not allow them to let anyone grow into a top slot. Even with better booking, I think it's nearly impossible because of how they run their tv and how they react to business trends. This is one of the problems that comes with being a publicly traded company. What's funny is that if they reacted the way they react now back then, there never would have been a Steve Austin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nell Santucci Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 I think the ratings problems as well as house show attendances have spooked them about DB. He is getting great heat yeah but it's not moving the meter business wise. If you noticed in the WON there was a blurb about the philosophy about bringing in bigger guys is back in vogue again so take that for what it's worth. That's not necessarily Bryan's fault. That's also the guy across from him. Yes, and Orton's star power faded the moment he got off the juice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 I think the ratings problems as well as house show attendances have spooked them about DB. He is getting great heat yeah but it's not moving the meter business wise. If you noticed in the WON there was a blurb about the philosophy about bringing in bigger guys is back in vogue again so take that for what it's worth. That's obvious but a fact the IWC don't care to admit to. WWE has always done its worst business with smaller guys on top. It's a relic of 80's culture. Some guy on WC flipped out when I claimed this, even after justification. I've talked to way too many casuals who see Punk and Bryan as inferiors due to size, especially Punk. It's not WWE's fault imo that as a business it gives the public what it wants. This guy disagrees... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbo Slice Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 I think the ratings problems as well as house show attendances have spooked them about DB. He is getting great heat yeah but it's not moving the meter business wise. If you noticed in the WON there was a blurb about the philosophy about bringing in bigger guys is back in vogue again so take that for what it's worth. That's obvious but a fact the IWC don't care to admit to. WWE has always done its worst business with smaller guys on top. It's a relic of 80's culture. Some guy on WC flipped out when I claimed this, even after justification. I've talked to way too many casuals who see Punk and Bryan as inferiors due to size, especially Punk. It's not WWE's fault imo that as a business it gives the public what it wants. What's considered a bigger guy then? Cena's about 245 and 6'2" and that's about "average" in WWE-speak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 I think the ratings problems as well as house show attendances have spooked them about DB. He is getting great heat yeah but it's not moving the meter business wise. If you noticed in the WON there was a blurb about the philosophy about bringing in bigger guys is back in vogue again so take that for what it's worth. That's obvious but a fact the IWC don't care to admit to. WWE has always done its worst business with smaller guys on top. It's a relic of 80's culture. Some guy on WC flipped out when I claimed this, even after justification. I've talked to way too many casuals who see Punk and Bryan as inferiors due to size, especially Punk. It's not WWE's fault imo that as a business it gives the public what it wants. Using that logic, the next champion should be the Big Show especially given his feud with the Authority (stupid name by the way). Big Show has been champ many times before and has done nothing for business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 The problem is the current model does not allow them to let anyone grow into a top slot. Even with better booking, I think it's nearly impossible because of how they run their tv and how they react to business trends. This is one of the problems that comes with being a publicly traded company. What's funny is that if they reacted the way they react now back then, there never would have been a Steve Austin. Or an HBK for that matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbo Slice Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 Bryan is one of the top merch guys in the company and is the most over guy in the company right now. From a "live crowd" perspective, I don't get this shit about him not being someone they can push. He organically got over on his own accord, really. It's classic WWE booking. If it's not a product of how they book the top of the card, they could give a fuck less. Orton hasn't been over in fucking years, yet he's the guy on top because Triple H can't keep his ass off TV. That's not booking to your strengths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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