dexstar Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 In that update, he includes this tidbit regarding network technical performance: "One person who streamed it through their phone at the building said it was running about one minute behind real time and thus was annoying to watch." Who in the hell does that?!? Some people like listening to the commentary to be fair. Yeah, I should have thought of that. But man, I can't imagine going to a WWE show and being upset I couldn't listen to those three stumble over each all night. To each their own I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyonthewall2983 Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 I sometimes just put stuff on to listen to it (mainly old stuff I've seen a million times). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 I do that at work sometimes. It's really best for syndi shows though, none of which are on yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNLister Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 Speaking of edits, I am watching Halloween Havoc 1990 and they cut out four matches. I guess they posted the home video version. I was wondering why it was under two hours. Here are the matches cut: Terry Taylor vs. Bill Irwin Junkyard Dog vs. Moondog Rex Brad Armstrong vs. JW Storm Master Blasters vs. Southern Boys Not really missing anything, I know, but I'd like to have seen the whole card. EDIT: Wait a minute ... I'm looking at reviews online and none of them mention these matches. The only place is ProWrestlingHistory and historyofwwe. Only on PPV Version? Yep, the Network only has the two hour home video version. Looks like WCW screwed up the master recording of the PPV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Ridge Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 Was not expecting to get all the Clashes at once. I'll check out some of ones from 80's since haven't seen much footage from those. Probably my favorite thing going is watching the old Raws from 93-94. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveJRogers Posted May 7, 2014 Report Share Posted May 7, 2014 In that update, he includes this tidbit regarding network technical performance: "One person who streamed it through their phone at the building said it was running about one minute behind real time and thus was annoying to watch." Who in the hell does that?!? Some people like listening to the commentary to be fair. The difference between that and a radio though, is that the live stream eats up battery life and is a drain on a data plan (assuming its not unlimited). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveJRogers Posted May 7, 2014 Report Share Posted May 7, 2014 Double post, sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clintthecrippler Posted May 8, 2014 Report Share Posted May 8, 2014 Yep, Clash of the Champions 7 is still one of my favorite wrestling shows of all-time. -The show is at an armory fieldhouse in Ft. Bragg, NC, and it's 100 degrees inside, and the crowd is sweaty and mostly drunk military folk and is hot for everything. Atmosphere is just phenomenal all night long, even for '80s NWA/WCW. -A possible legit overlooked classic in Terry Funk vs Ricky Steamboat, and some other fun matches like Varsity Club vs Steiners, Midnight Express vs Headshrinkers/Samoan Swat Team, and Dr. Death vs Terry Gordy. -One of the all-time WCW Wrestlecrap moments with the debut of the Ding Dongs. -My favorite patriotism-baiting match of all-time with the ex-military man Ranger Ross vs The Terrorist...and the military audience eats it the fuck up... -...followed by Gary Hart leading The Great Muta in a martial arts demonstration that Muta refuses to participate in because according to Gary Hart, he is sick of facing inferior "gaijin" competition. -Coors Light was a sponsor of the show so Jim Ross makes references all night long to wishing he was on his couch drinking a nice cold Coors Light. -a drunk fan charging the ring during the Midnight Express entrance, and Jim Cornette simply saying "We're going to make your night by letting you live!" as he gets swarmed by military security. -a plug for THE HOTLINE featuring Jack Victory dressed as an FBI agent and Paul E. being rudely interrupted by a jobber while calling the hotline...also, JOE PEDICINO'S NOSE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artDDP Posted May 8, 2014 Report Share Posted May 8, 2014 Yep, Clash of the Champions 7 is still one of my favorite wrestling shows of all-time. -The show is at an armory fieldhouse in Ft. Bragg, NC, and it's 100 degrees inside, and the crowd is sweaty and mostly drunk military folk and is hot for everything. Atmosphere is just phenomenal all night long, even for '80s NWA/WCW. -A possible legit overlooked classic in Terry Funk vs Ricky Steamboat, and some other fun matches like Varsity Club vs Steiners, Midnight Express vs Headshrinkers/Samoan Swat Team, and Dr. Death vs Terry Gordy. -One of the all-time WCW Wrestlecrap moments with the debut of the Ding Dongs. -My favorite patriotism-baiting match of all-time with the ex-military man Ranger Ross vs The Terrorist...and the military audience eats it the fuck up... -...followed by Gary Hart leading The Great Muta in a martial arts demonstration that Muta refuses to participate in because according to Gary Hart, he is sick of facing inferior "gaijin" competition. -Coors Light was a sponsor of the show so Jim Ross makes references all night long to wishing he was on his couch drinking a nice cold Coors Light. -a drunk fan charging the ring during the Midnight Express entrance, and Jim Cornette simply saying "We're going to make your night by letting you live!" as he gets swarmed by military security. -a plug for THE HOTLINE featuring Jack Victory dressed as an FBI agent and Paul E. being rudely interrupted by a jobber while calling the hotline...also, JOE PEDICINO'S NOSE! Definitely checking this card out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy hats Posted May 8, 2014 Report Share Posted May 8, 2014 Yep, sold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted May 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2014 To C.S.... Looks like they are going to have a 2nd season of Legends House along with Tough Enough and 2 more reality based programs. I wonder what the other two shows are going to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted May 8, 2014 Report Share Posted May 8, 2014 The rumor is that they want Flair to helm the second season. That seems like a terrible idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted May 8, 2014 Report Share Posted May 8, 2014 I hope you mean Legends House and not Tough Enough although both are really bad ideas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dexstar Posted May 8, 2014 Report Share Posted May 8, 2014 The one show I'd love to see from that list of knock-offs-of-popular-current-cable-series that they sent out as a survey would be the stage/ring crew one. Following those guys as they deal with the logistics and long hours of creating the WWE experience feels like a good "Dirty Jobs" or "Deadliest Catch" type series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyonthewall2983 Posted May 8, 2014 Report Share Posted May 8, 2014 I'm watching Clash VII now. This is the card of Vince McMahon's nightmares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted May 8, 2014 Report Share Posted May 8, 2014 To C.S.... Looks like they are going to have a 2nd season of Legends House along with Tough Enough and 2 more reality based programs. I wonder what the other two shows are going to be. I just read that. I've always loved Tough Enough, even if the chosen winners almost never work out - with Big Andy being especially disastrous, but picking that stiff Daniel Puder over The Miz in a previous season was another misfire (say what you want about Miz, but he was a top heel for a while and did headline WrestleMania, for better or worse). I just hope Stone Cold returns as the host, or at least someone as compelling. The bottom three concept was great. Even reaching out to Al Snow, who was great in an entirely different way, would be fun. Bill DeMott added something to the Al Snow seasons, but he was a completely unwatchable, unbearable, unlikeable bully during the Stone Cold season. I hated that DeMott called that poor Ryan kid "Skidmarks," etc. and later tried to justify it by saying it made the kid more memorable. That's pretty laughable, because DeMott never drew a dime or had a character that was worth a damn. You could argue that DeMott was misused during his career, and he probably was, but still... I always thought he was pretty good in the ring though, especially for a big man, so I can see why he'd be an effective trainer. However, I do remember Ziggler's younger brother and others exposing DeMott for being a bully, etc. No idea what's true and what isn't, but I can believe it. As for Legends House, it hasn't been great so far, but it's very serviceable and I do make time to watch it every week. With some refinements, and maybe a few younger "legends" added to the mix (Edge?), they might be on to something. Right now, it feels a bit too geriatric. I'd bet Blackman's Bounties will be one of the other reality shows. There was a whole list of proposed programs floating around a while back. May even be in this thread somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyonthewall2983 Posted May 8, 2014 Report Share Posted May 8, 2014 So the latest WrestleMania Rewind about Savage's run at IV had Lanny talk a bit about his brother. I wonder if this means they're in negotiations about the HoF now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Ridge Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 I wanted to hear more from Lanny. Know those Countdown shows are biased towards the current guys but wow was the number 2 pick for Best Villain a complete joke. You could tell from the opening video montage they were going to be included in top 10 but as the countdown kept mentioning other guys I was in disbelief to see how high he was chosen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 It's not surprising when you figure how many people under 20 are probably voting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoe Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 Their is a Houseshow listed 3/17/97. When did they stop airing these shows on the MSG network. I always thought 91 maybe 92 was when they stopped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 This was a one-off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyonthewall2983 Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 The last regular one was in '92, the show right before WM VIII Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Ridge Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 It's not surprising when you figure how many people under 20 are probably voting. I know since these countdowns are voted through WWE website but still I just have a hard time with him being second. Like over HHH who has been pushed down everyone's throat as a big bad guy over the years? DiBiase completely blows away this guy as a heel. He was so good in his role that he never had a face run in WWF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 I'm probably taking Legends House too seriously again, but I felt really bad for the wrestlers this week. It got to the point where it felt like they were being exploited. I know, I know...they're big boys who signed up for the show of their own free will and knew what they were getting into, but still. At least they ended up enjoying the ridiculous Chippendale's experience and felt good about doing it. Tony Atlas is either playing a character at this point or is legitimately out of tune with the world around him...maybe both. Not quite sure what Hacksaw is so angry about though. I have a feeling those two got together before the show and set up their own little angle. Actually, at the end, everyone seemed to be upset with Atlas. But nothing really happened on the show to indicate why. So, either it's poor editing or Tony Atlas farting in a limo is supposed to be reason enough. Meh. Really low stakes, bottom of the barrel "conflicts" here. Back to the "exploitation" comment I made at the beginning: I can't help but think that this whole thing really cheapens Roddy Piper and makes him look like far less of a star. You wouldn't catch Hogan, Rock, or Stone Cold doing something like this ever. Flair is the exception, maybe, just because he's probably desperate enough at this point. But no "real star" would ever willingly submit themselves to something this low rent. I guess all of these really must need the money. It's kind of heartbreaking. I'll do a separate post about Legends of Wrestling and Mike Graham... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 I also caught the Legends of Wrestling episode about Jerry Lawler and JYD. Awesome stuff, as usual - especially from Michael Hayes (discussing the famous feud where he "blinded" Dog) and Dusty (admitting to being an egomaniac who stole from Dog's act). Mike Graham comes across as an over-eager little brother/sad puppy dog on these things. I don't want to speak ill of the dead, but I really don't know why they picked him to be on the panel. He seems almost too shy/intimidated to really chime in, and when he does, everyone else ends up talking over him anyway. On that note, I read that crappy "Outside the Ring" book Hulk Hogan wrote and was surprised that he had nothing nice to say about Graham. In contrast, Graham always went out of his way to praise Hogan in public. It's kind of sad because I read that Graham approached TNA for work before he took his own life, and he was disheartened that they had no position for him. Apparently, his father told him he'd always have a place in wrestling because he was a member of the Graham family. I wonder if Hogan/Bischoff were in TNA by then? Really sad if Hogan screwed a distraught Graham out of a position in TNA, but that's all pure speculation on my part - I don't even know if the timeline matches up, or whether TNA bringing Graham in a backstage capacity would have even been a good idea (though it couldn't have been worse than some of the other clowns they've hired both behind-the-scenes and in front of the camera). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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