dknick Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 So I am starting a new job next week and was just playing around with some software I use for it. I wanted to build a very simple infographic and settled on using WWE data (was tired of playing with normal business data). Anyway I used Meltzer star ratings as a means of calculating an overall 2013 WWE PPV MVP. While I usually don't pay much attention to the ratings, it at least offers a consistent and somewhat unbiased view towards performance. Anyway, I plugged the data in, messed with the filters and display some and was able to generate the below. I did set the criteria at a minimum of four appearances (thus no Lesnar, Rock or Undertaker). While is more just a fun little exercise for me, figured you all might enjoy seeing the results. So attached are the top 25 WWE PPV performers (at least in the eyes of Meltzer) from last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawho5 Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Orton is ranked higher than I would have thought. Cesaro, although I have only seen 3 matches, seems really good. Is that a new development? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Dave thinks that Orton is one of the best guys in the WWE. He praises him all the time. Did you send that on to Dave? That's the sort of thing he occasionally runs. I just want to see it out there for the world that Goldust is #1 and the Best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steenalized Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Dave thinks that Orton is one of the best guys in the WWE. He praises him all the time. Did you send that on to Dave? That's the sort of thing he occasionally runs. I just want to see it out there for the world that Goldust is #1 and the Best. He always refers to him as a great worker and praises his promos too. I don't get what he sees. Goldust being on top doesn't surprise me given how great he's been during the comeback. The Usos, however, are much higher than I would have guessed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Dave said at the last house show he attended that Orton was the only who he thought was good enough in the ring that he could have worked in JCP. He said Cesaro only would have been able to if he teamed with Bobby Eaton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Waco Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 That might be the most ridiculous thing he's ever said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricR Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 Wow that is dumb. There were a lot of weaker performers on that card, but is he honestly so clueless that he thinks Mark Henry wouldn't have been colossally over in the 80s, in ANY fed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 Mark henry would have been the first black World Heavyweight Champion long before Ron Simmons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 I don't know if Henry was on the show he attended to be fair. And I think he was specifically referring to effort put out when the cameras aren't on more than he was talent in general. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W2BTD Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 I don't know if Henry was on the show he attended to be fair. And I think he was specifically referring to effort put out when the cameras aren't on more than he was talent in general. He was basing it on that particular nights efforts only, and it was guys he & Steve Austin thought could be top guys in JCP. He said Orton could be third or fourth heel in the pecking order, and they agreed that Cesaro would make it but would need a partner like Eaton or a mouthpiece like Cornette. I'll try to find the exact quote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W2BTD Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 Here is the exact post dave made where this is coming from: Austin and I had several e-mails back and forth after I went to the WWE house show over the weekend. There are a lot of good technicians and the guys are in very good cardiovascular shape for the most part.The number of guys on the card who aggressively had the drive to work like main eventers?1 - Randy OrtonThe number of guys on the card over like main eventers?2- John Cena and Randy OrtonThe number of guys who would have cracked the top tier in JCP in 1986?1 - Randy Orton, maybe at a No. 4 heel level2 - John Cena, at a Magnum T.A./Nikita Koloff level3. - Antonio Cesaro, provided he had J.J. or Cornette to talk for him and had Bobby Eaton to oteam with him4 & 5 - Ryback or Big E if Dusty liked them and gave them preferential booking, without it, noAustin went out there and took it. Yes, they went all the way with him and could have killed him, but everyone is happy with their spot and doesn't step over their spot. Maybe Ziggler would be different but he wasn't on the show.Whether the fire has been beaten out of them (what the wrestlers say) or they are complacent (what management would say and Jim Ross hints at it all the time, as does Austin), the end result is the same place, just how you view it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 While he's turned the corner on Henry as a heel, he's still down on him as a babyface. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dknick Posted February 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 Dave thinks that Orton is one of the best guys in the WWE. He praises him all the time. Did you send that on to Dave? That's the sort of thing he occasionally runs. I just want to see it out there for the world that Goldust is #1 and the Best. I want to alter the language in the header slightly and then I would be glad to. Thanks for the idea. I might do one of these every week or two if I have time. Don't want to infringe on mookieghana's gimmick though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 I think the deal with Henry is that MITB was SUCH a huge number and drew more than so many other things and Meltzer bases it almost all on Henry's promo/angle. It hits so many marks that matter to him when it comes to drawing/wrestler importance that he simply can't dismiss it without seeming totally hypocritical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovert Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 Dave said at the last house show he attended that Orton was the only who he thought was good enough in the ring that he could have worked in JCP. He said Cesaro only would have been able to if he teamed with Bobby Eaton. If fairness that was the consensus Dave came with Steve Austin in a recent phone conversation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricR Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 Even with the context explained, if anybody - Meltzer, Austin, whomever - thinks that a guy with Ryback's size and charisma wouldn't have immediately had a rocket strapped to their ass, they're fucking morons. Ryback would have been Lex Luger in JCP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 Even with the context explained, if anybody - Meltzer, Austin, whomever - thinks that a guy with Ryback's size and charisma wouldn't have immediately had a rocket strapped to their ass, they're fucking morons. Ryback would have been Lex Luger in JCP. The low end of the totem pole is the Warlord, who came in and was shipped off for a year for seasoning. Ryback wasn't as good as Luger but probably better than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 The key thing to also remember is that they weren't teaching Luger to work like The Road Warriors or Nikita. Luger was told to emulate Flair in his working style and promos. That's why Luger sold a lot more than those guys. If Ryback would have been a Luger in JCP, he wouldn't have been booked as a monster muscleman. So yeah, I see him going the way of Warlord or Vladimir Pietrov too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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