Grimmas Posted June 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 I think it should be first come first serve but you can only work between the tours unless guys are actually on excursions So I can draft Fujinami, but only use him between NJ tours??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dedhemingway Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 JVK already setting up to try and run us out of business everyone. I think maybe we need to band together and make sure we're prepared to fight the WWF. He did try and call the WWF Championship the 'World Title', so I guess what I'm saying is... 'Night gathers, and so my watch begins, it shall not end until I am bought out by the WWF, I shall take no champion, hold no other territory, begin no wars. I shall claim no title, share my glory. I shall live and die in my territory. I am the suplex in the ring. I am the hot tag on the apron. I am the shield that guards the Alliance. I pledge my promotion and honor to the National Wrestling Alliance for this card, and all the cards to come.' As for St. Louis, obviously I'd love to have it in my loop, but if the decision comes down to go another way, I'm not going to pitch a fit. Regarding Matysik since he is floating around right now I think he is fair game for anyone to hire as an announcer I'll take him, seems like he'd fit perfectly with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 I wouldn't draft any of the Japanese guys just work with the promotions. I don't think Matysik would want to work for Central States right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted June 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 I wouldn't draft any of the Japanese guys just work with the promotions. I don't think Matysik would want to work for Central States right now Is AJ and NJ on tour on July 1st? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dedhemingway Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 I wouldn't draft any of the Japanese guys just work with the promotions. I don't think Matysik would want to work for Central States right now Cool. I'm still trying to do research on Central States, so I'm not aware of all the politics at the time. 1983 is a little out of my wheelhouse, a little before my time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 I wouldn't draft any of the Japanese guys just work with the promotions. I don't think Matysik would want to work for Central States right now Is AJ and NJ on tour on July 1st? New Japan started a tour on 7/1/83 Abdullah the Butcher Adrian Adonis Brian Blair Dick Murdoch Tiger Chung Lee Paul Orndorff (7/22 - 8/4) All-Japan started a tour on 7/8/83 Alexis Smirnoff Gypsy Joe Jerry Oates Terry Funk Nick Bockwinkel Gerry Morrow Tiger Jeet Singh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted June 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 I wouldn't draft any of the Japanese guys just work with the promotions. I don't think Matysik would want to work for Central States right now Is AJ and NJ on tour on July 1st? New Japan started a tour on 7/1/83 Abdullah the Butcher Adrian Adonis Brian Blair Dick Murdoch Tiger Chung Lee Paul Orndorff (7/22 - 8/4) All-Japan started a tour on 7/8/83 Alexis Smirnoff Gypsy Joe Jerry Oates Terry Funk Nick Bockwinkel Gerry Morrow Tiger Jeet Singh So, in theory, I could claim Jumbo Tsuruta for my July 1st show? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peachchaos Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 I don't like where this is going...Stu Hart had fostered a relationship with NJPW in the early 80's that took years to bring to fruition (and it's literally one of the only highlights of Stampede Wrestling). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted June 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 I don't like where this is going...Stu Hart had fostered a relationship with NJPW in the early 80's that took years to bring to fruition (and it's literally one of the only highlights of Stampede Wrestling). I think Stampede is going to have a bid advantage when young boys get sent out on tour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peachchaos Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 I don't like the idea of mixing reality with fantasy so much here. If the gaijin workers have to make the dates they worked IRL, then the Japanese talent should follow suit in my opinion. If we want to make the Japanese talent available for select dates they didn't actually work, then we should have a separate draft for them or put them into the freelancer category. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 I think Japanese workers should be considered off-limits unless they ACTUALLY WORKED the US that year. In TEW, for example, lots of the Japanese guys have a "only works in Japan" tag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 JVK makes a good point. I think it should also include guys who had worked in the U.S. previously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 The Great Yatsu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 He worked in CWF around this time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted June 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 So.. I can use Jumbo or no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Boricua Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 I wouldn't draft any of the Japanese guys just work with the promotions. I don't think Matysik would want to work for Central States right now Is AJ and NJ on tour on July 1st? New Japan started a tour on 7/1/83 Abdullah the Butcher Adrian Adonis Brian Blair Dick Murdoch Tiger Chung Lee Paul Orndorff (7/22 - 8/4) All-Japan started a tour on 7/8/83 Alexis Smirnoff Gypsy Joe Jerry Oates Terry Funk Nick Bockwinkel Gerry Morrow Tiger Jeet Singh So no Abdullah until August? Oh well. At least I'm not Central States who has to go without Bockwinkel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Boricua Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 So.. I can use Jumbo or no? Don't know. Jumbo did work three shows in the U.S. in June according to WrestlingData. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted June 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 So.. I can use Jumbo or no? Don't know. Jumbo did work three shows in the U.S. in June according to WrestlingData. Exactly, I just want him for one show! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dedhemingway Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 I wouldn't draft any of the Japanese guys just work with the promotions. I don't think Matysik would want to work for Central States right now Is AJ and NJ on tour on July 1st? New Japan started a tour on 7/1/83 Abdullah the Butcher Adrian Adonis Brian Blair Dick Murdoch Tiger Chung Lee Paul Orndorff (7/22 - 8/4) All-Japan started a tour on 7/8/83 Alexis Smirnoff Gypsy Joe Jerry Oates Terry Funk Nick Bockwinkel Gerry Morrow Tiger Jeet Singh So no Abdullah until August? Oh well. At least I'm not Central States who has to go without Bockwinkel. We'll get our filming for July done before he leaves! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 Throwing an idea out there since there seems to be a "no expansion/competition" vibe here, is someone attempting to compete in the same market completely out of the question? With certain markets out there that don't really fit into anyone's geographical "region' it would make sense to have some kind of squabbling over Ohio, California, Detroit, etc. at the very least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Ewiak Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 Throwing an idea out there since there seems to be a "no expansion/competition" vibe here, is someone attempting to compete in the same market completely out of the question? With certain markets out there that don't really fit into anyone's geographical "region' it would make sense to have some kind of squabbling over Ohio, California, Detroit, etc. at the very least. An idea I like is if you want to expand to a territory, and somebody else does, you both (or all four or whatever number of people get in there) post a big show there, and people vote on what they think would be the better draw for the area, and whoever wins the poll gets that territory, or some kind of bonus points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 I like that. Maybe 3 head to heads and the loser has to stay out for at least a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 I am not happy about people wanting to compete in established WWF secondary markets such as Ohio, LA and Detroit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Ewiak Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 I am not happy about people wanting to compete in established WWF secondary markets such as Ohio, LA and Detroit. Hey guys, I don't remember no vote allowing Vince and his kid to move into LA, do you? Was I asleep? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 I am not happy about people wanting to compete in established WWF secondary markets such as Ohio, LA and Detroit. Hey guys, I don't remember no vote allowing Vince and his kid to move into LA, do you? Was I asleep? Mike LaBell sold the office to the WWF when he closed up at the end of 1982. WWF @ San Diego, CA - March 5, 1983 (5,000) First show in the Bay Area Jack Armstrong fought the Great Yatsu to a draw Blackjack Mulligan defeated Billy Anderson Pat Patterson defeated Jerry Monti Buddy Rose defeated Tony Garea WWF IC Champion Don Muraco defeated WWF Tag Team Champion Jules Strongbow WWF Tag Team Champion Chief Jay Strongbow defeated Black Gordmon Pedro Morales defeated Superstar Billy Graham via disqualification Andre the Giant defeated Mr. Fuji & Alexis Smirnoff in a handicap match WWF World Champion Bob Backlund defeated Ray Stevens Andre the Giant won a 17-man battle royal WWF @ Los Angeles, CA - March 6, 1983 Jack Armstrong defeated Jesse Hernandez Andre the Giant won an 18-man battle royal The Great Yatsu defeated Billy Anderson Pat Patterson defeated Superstar Billy Graham via disqualification Ray Stevens defeated Tony Garea Blackjack Mulligan defeated WWF Tag Team Champion Jules Strongbow WWF World Champion Bob Backlund defeated Buddy Rose Alexis Smirnoff defeated Jerry Monti WWF IC Champion Don Muraco defeated Pedro Morales via count-out Andre the Giant defeated Mr. Fuji & Black Gordman in a handicap match WWF @ Los Angeles, CA - Sports Arena - April 23, 1983 Black Gordman fought Jerry Monti (sub. for Salvatore Lothario) to a draw Alexis Smirnoff defeated Steve Pardee Billy Anderson defeated Paul Orndorff Iron Mike Sharpe defeated Pat Patterson via disqualification SD Jones fought Adrian Adonis to a draw Mil Mascaras defeated Buddy Rose via disqualification Jimmy Snuka defeated Ray Stevens via count-out Samula (sub. for Sika) & WWF Tag Team Champion Afa defeated Chief Jay & Jules Strongbow WWF World Champion Bob Backlund defeated Ivan Koloff WWF @ San Diego, CA - April 24, 1983 Black Gordman defeated Billy Anderson WWF Tag Team Champion Afa defeated Jerry Monti Alexis Smirnoff defeated Steve Pardee Pat Patterson fought Adrian Adonis to a double disqualification Paul Orndorff fought Chief Jay Strongbow to a draw Jules Strongbow defeated Samula Jimmy Snuka defeated Iron Mike Sharpe Mil Mascaras defeated Ray Stevens via disqualification WWF World Champion Bob Backlund defeated Buddy Rose WWF @ Los Angeles, CA - Sports Arena - May 21, 1983 Tatsumi Fujinami defeated Tony Rocco Jerry Monti fought the Mighty Zulu to a draw The Great Goliath defeated Billy Anderson Alexis Smirnoff defeated Guy Lambert Steve Pardee defeated Black Gordman via disqualification Pat Patterson defeated Iron Mike Sharpe Jimmy Snuka defeated Buddy Rose Mil Mascaras defeated Ray Stevens Rocky Johnson fought WWF IC Champion Don Muraco to a double count-out WWF @ San Diego, CA - May 22, 1983 Tatsumi Fujinami defeated Tony Rocco The Great Goliath defeated Steve Pardee Alexis Smirnoff defeated Guy Lambert Billy Anderson defeated the Mighty Zulu Iron Mike Sharpe defeated Jerry Monti Pat Patterson defeated Black Gordman Rocky Johnson defeated Ray Stevens Mil Mascaras fought Buddy Rose to a double disqualification Jimmy Snuka defeated WWF IC Champion Don Muraco via count-out WWF @ Los Angeles, CA - Sports Arena - July 2, 1983 (9,100) Alexis Smirnoff defeated Jerry Monti Black Gordman & Goliath defeated Steve Pardee & Billy Anderson Mil Mascaras defeated Ivan Koloff via disqualification Tony Atlas defeated Jack Armstrong Pat Patterson defeated Buddy Rose Jimmy Snuka defeated Mr. Fuji Andre the Giant defeated Big John Studd via count-out in a $10,000 bodyslam match WWF World Champion Bob Backlund fought Sgt. Slaughter via disqualification Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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