One Year, One Arena

[SmartMark15]

 

I'm a sucker for the Manhattan Center from 05-07. If I had to pick, I'd probably pick 2006, the centerpiece of Bryan Danielson's ROH Title reigns with multiple great level defenses in that building.

No offense, but this post at this point in this thread makes your user name seem VERY ironic.

 

By which I mean:

 

You might expect that someone who has the eye of a hawk or someone who is "smart" to have noticed this post:

 

The point isnt some desert island thing, it would be what would be the best discovery. Is there stuff from 1989 msg or 1993 koraken which isnt out there?

 

 

Ah, I see. Probably the Mid-South Coliseum or whichever arena Memphis ran out of in the 70s so we could see the Lawler-Fargo feud.

[Phil Schneider]

 

 

 

 

 

 

The point isnt some desert island thing, it would be what would be the best discovery. Is there stuff from 1989 msg or 1993 koraken which isnt out there?

If that's the case... 1980 Superdome for Hayes vs JYD in the cage and Hogan vs Andre.

Problem with that is you are only getting two shows.

 

8/80 Card looks awesome

• Terry Latham beat Tommy Wright (9:15).

• Terry Orndorff & Mike Miller beat Johnny Mantell & Ron Cheatham (12:00).

• King Cobra beat Frank Dusek (10:15).

• The Assassin beat Steven Little Bear (12:00).

• Ray Candy beat Killer Khan (9:47).

• The Grappler beat Wahoo McDaniel (11:00) via DQ.

• Paul Orndorff beat Ken Mantell (14:00).

• Andre the Giant DCO Hulk Hogan (13:00).

• Mid-South North American Champ Ted DiBiase beat Mr. Wrestling II (14:00).

• Dusty Rhodes & Buck Robley beat Buddy Roberts & Terry Gordy (5:00) in a "double bullrope" match.

• Junkyard Dog beat Michael Hayes (11:20) in a "steel cage dog collar" match

Grappler v. Wahoo should be good, and DiBiase v. II would be great too

 

 

10/80 show isn't as good

• Cocoa Samoa beat Mike Miller (10:00).

• Jimmy Garvin beat Terry Latham (6:00).

• Ray Candy & Wahoo McDaniel beat The Turk & The Mexican Angel (7:07).

• Mid-South Louisiana Champ Jake Roberts beat Paul Ellering (13:00).

• Ted DiBiase beat The Super Destroyer (15:00) via DQ.

• Dusty Rhodes beat Ivan Koloff (10:46).

• Junkyard Dog & Bill Watts beat Ernie Ladd & Leroy Brown (15:00).

• Mid-South North American Champ The Grappler beat Karl Kox (11:00).

• Ernie Ladd beat Paul Orndorff in a "lights out" match

Ernie Ladd v. Paul Orndorff could be good, and I am sure Grappler v. KKK was fun, but this was pretty weak for a Mid-South super show

Can't win for losing on this... but the August card is the one I would go back and see if I could be at any shows that I've never seen footage of. There's a lot going on here and definitely historic on multiple levels.

I can see the argument, kind of a quality over quantity thing. That JYD v Hayes match was amazing I am sure

[gordi]

Jackie Fargo! There's a guy I'd like to see more footage of. He had a great character and real charisma, from what little I have seen.

[Hawkeye12]

 

I'll go with MSG 1984, Hulkamania's first year vs Sheik, Orndorff, Studd, Schultz, Valentine, some good Andre stuff like the tag match where he gets bloodied, Piper-Snuka (although Tonga Kid later), Slaughter-Sheik, Brawl to End it All with Richter's title win, Adonis/Murdoch as tag champs who I really enjoy, Santana-Valentine, and even an Inoki appearance sprinkled in and the end of Backlund's run vs Valentine.

 

No offense, but this post at this point in this thread makes your user name seem VERY ironic.

 

 

Yep, I kind of dropped the ball on this topic

 

I like that Omni '89 list if for nothing else to see Muta's TV title win over Sting.

 

1990 Omni gets a rare Hogan appearance vs Perfect and also a Dusty return in a mixed tag, FOUR Flair-Luger matches and another tag, LOD/Steiners vs SST/Doom cage, Steiners/Nasties cage, Doom/Windham/Arn in a cage, two Sting-Flair rematches including a Dusty finish plus odd stuff like Harley teaming with Windham and Arn in a six-man replacing Flair, Bryan Adams teaming in Demolition before he'd even been given a name, and Randy Colley getting to headline with Sting as that night's Black Scorpion. Such an odd hodge podge of nostalgia for me from my first full year as a fan I'd be happy with it.

[cad]

3/9/84 Satánico © v Lizmark NWA Middleweight title

 

7/13/84 Satanico v. Samurai Shiro Hair (not the one we have on tape)

 

10/26/84 El Dandy v. Javier Cruz hair (This might be the match the EMLL announcers always bring up whenever anyone bleeds a ton)

These are all on Youtube. Satanico vs Samurai Shiro is clearly the one that's online, you wouldn't have a hair rematch in the same month when one guy already has a buzzcut. One of the dates listed for it is incorrect.

[Phil Schneider]

According to luchadb they had three hair matches in 1984

[gordi]

Yeah, totally underrated venue. Built in, I believe, 1919 and still standing, so coming up on its 100th anniversary. Hosted wrestling cards as far back as at least the early 30s, nearly twenty years before Stu began running shows there

 

And it just occurred to me: In the 1960s you'd have had Big Time Wrestling and then Gene Kiniski's All Star Wrestling (out of Vancouver) running NWA shows in the Pavilion as well.

[cad]

According to luchadb they had three hair matches in 1984

According to luchadb they had three hair matches in the same month in 1984, including two on back to back days. It's all the same match, just with conflicting reports about what day it took place on.

[Mad Dog]

Mid-South Colesium in 1984 just for the star power that came through.

[Loss]

I think it would be really cool to get Mid South Coliseum in 1980 for Billy Robinson's run of arena matches while Lawler was out of action. The Memphis roster was actually stacked during that time with good vets and up and coming guys, so I can't imagine most shows not being good.

 

Also, Phil, that War Games from The Omni is actually just a Bash '89 rematch. But I wonder if they took it any farther just because they didn't have to avoid the blade since they were saving it for Flair-Funk on top.

[Rah]

According to luchadb they had three hair matches in 1984

They're the same match, sadly.

 

1984 Arena Mexico means we could also have seen Satanico/Misawa. To be fair, Misawa looked crap in the Arena Mexico footage we do have, but that's a helluva "what if" scenario...

[Indikator]

Why Arena Mexico when you have El Toreo de Cuatro Caminos? For the whole duration of UWA I am unsure if Arena Mexico and Arena Coliseo ever outperformed it. Even in the rigor mortis phase you had some interesting Double Power cards.

[PhilTLL]

Oklahoma City's Myriad, anything from 1984 to 87--only because if I had been 15 years older, I would have been there every single week, and it galls me that I was born in a wrestling hotbed but it died before I grew up. Or Tulsa, but I'm not from Tulsa, ha.

[Dylan Waco]

Why Arena Mexico when you have El Toreo de Cuatro Caminos? For the whole duration of UWA I am unsure if Arena Mexico and Arena Coliseo ever outperformed it. Even in the rigor mortis phase you had some interesting Double Power cards.

Agree with this entirely. Feels like El Toreo is the obvious answer

[Matt D]

I think Arena Mexico might make sense if we go back into the 70s or earlier but who knows what we'd get at that point. Otherwise, if 80s, then yeah, UWA. I'm tempted to get the Tuesday Portland shows from 1980. That's sort of the crux of this. Do we go with a known quantity to fill in blanks or something that'd be all new to us. I'd be tempted by year in the 70s for Amarillo for instance.

[cad]

I'm fairly confident that 1992 Arena Mexico was better than 1992 Toreo, and 1992 is the most complete year we have from the UWA.

 

1990 Arena Coliseo Acapulco would get you the following matches:

 

Arqueros del Espacio vs Diabolicos (National Trios Championship)

Ciclon Ramirez vs Fantasma de le Quebrada (National Welterweight)

Lizmark vs Fabuloso Blondy (NWA Lightheavyweight, title change)

Atlantis/Angel Azteca vs Pierroth Jr./Ulises (National Tag)

Fuerza Guerrera vs Americo Rocca (NWA Welterweight)

Lizmark vs El Faraon (NWA Lightheavyweight)

El Dandy vs Atlantis (NWA Middleweight, title change and then a rematch for the belt one month later)

Negro Casas vs Yoshihiro Asai

Mogur vs Verdugo (hair vs hair)

Lizmark vs Mascara Año 2000 (NWA Lightheavyweight)

Fuerza Guerrera vs Octagon (NWA Welterweight)

Atlantis vs El Satanico (NWA Middleweight, hourlong time limit draw)

 

This is with sporadic and incomplete results listed, so there must be much more like this that took place in the arena that year.

[Migs]

Nassau Coliseum, 1987.

 

Unaired WWF shows from what was a pretty strong time for them + loaded NWA shows as they tried to break into the market, including this War Games - Garvin/Rhodes/Windham/RnR v. Bubba/Tully/Arn/MX.

[Phil Schneider]

I'm fairly confident that 1992 Arena Mexico was better than 1992 Toreo, and 1992 is the most complete year we have from the UWA.

 

1990 Arena Coliseo Acapulco would get you the following matches:

 

Arqueros del Espacio vs Diabolicos (National Trios Championship)

Ciclon Ramirez vs Fantasma de le Quebrada (National Welterweight)

Lizmark vs Fabuloso Blondy (NWA Lightheavyweight, title change)

Atlantis/Angel Azteca vs Pierroth Jr./Ulises (National Tag)

Fuerza Guerrera vs Americo Rocca (NWA Welterweight)

Lizmark vs El Faraon (NWA Lightheavyweight)

El Dandy vs Atlantis (NWA Middleweight, title change and then a rematch for the belt one month later)

Negro Casas vs Yoshihiro Asai

Mogur vs Verdugo (hair vs hair)

Lizmark vs Mascara Año 2000 (NWA Lightheavyweight)

Fuerza Guerrera vs Octagon (NWA Welterweight)

Atlantis vs El Satanico (NWA Middleweight, hourlong time limit draw)

 

This is with sporadic and incomplete results listed, so there must be much more like this that took place in the arena that year.

 

Satanico v. Atlantis in a hour long draw!!! Holy Fuck

[Phil Schneider]

1985 might be the year for Toreo

 

Look at this card

 

UWA (SUN) 01/27/1985 Toreo de Cuatro Caminos, Naucalpan, Estado de México [DJ Spectro, luchablog photolog (2013-09-16 03.19.14), Super Luchas 514]
***10th Anniversary***
1) Blue Panther © b Cobarde II [UWA WELTER]
Blue Panther is champion, took falls 2/3 to keep the title
2) Satánico © b Super Astro [UWA MIDDLE]
Satanico was champion and kept it by taking falls 1/3.
3) Mano Negra DCOR Fishman © [UWA LH]
Fishman is champion, kept the title
4) Villano III b el Signo [WWF LH]
Villano is champion, kept the title falls 1/3.
5) Canek & Dos Caras DQ Babe Face & Stan Hansen
straight falls.

 

Or these matches

 

2/1

 

2) El Hijo Del Santo, Solar I, Super Astro, Ultraman vs Black Terry, Blue Panther, El Brazo, José Luis Feliciano

 

2/5

 

5) el Signo, Negro Navarro, Texano vs Villano I, Villano III, Villano IV [super libre]

 

5/26

 

El Faraón, Lobo Rubio, Perro Aguayo vs Brazo de Oro, Brazo de Plata, El Brazo [super libre]

300000 pesos on the line

 

7/21

 

El Hijo Del Santo & Villano III b Aristóteles & Blue Panther

Sets up Santo versus Aristoteles in a mask match.
Villano I, Villano IV, Villano V b Brazo de Oro, Brazo de Plata, El Brazo © [UWA TRIOS]
title change! Bad rainstorm during the match. Best match.

 

10/13

 

Villano I, Villano IV, Villano V © DRAW el Signo, Negro Navarro, Texano [UWA TRIOS]

medics stopped the match due to blood.

 

11/20

 

MS-1, Pirata Morgan, Satánico © b Brazo de Oro, Brazo de Plata, El Brazo [MEX TRIOS]

[Sean Liska]

Mid-South Coliseum 1982.

[Phil Schneider]

We have so little MSC footage from the 90s, that I would be more interested in seeing a full year from them, then filling in the gaps from one of the years in the 80s where we have a lot of the top matches. Take a look at the weird and cool shit happening in 1995

 

1/23

 

PG-13 beat Tommy Rich & Doug Gilbert in a "hospital elimination" match.

Bill Dundee beat Ricky Morton

 

USWA Unified World Champ Sid Vicious beat Brian Christopher in three falls.

1/30

PG-13 beat Tommy Rich & Doug Gilbert in a "street fight" match.

Jerry Lawler beat Brian Christopher and Bill Dundee (60:00) in a "triangle marathon" match.

 

2/6

 

Jerry Lawler pinned Sid Vicious (15:48) in a "no DQ" match to win the USWA Unified World Title.

 

3/6

 

 

Bill Dundee beat Jerry Lawler and Brian Christopher in a "double elimination" match. Christopher pinned Lawler. Lawler pinned Dundee. Dundee pinned Christopher. Christopher beat Lawler via DQ. Dundee pinned Christopher.

Tommy Rich & Gorgeous George III beat PG-13 in a "hair vs. hair" match when Rich pinned Wolfie.

 

3/13

 

Miss Texas beat Sweet Georgia Brown in an "I quit" match.

Bill Dundee beat Brian Christopher in a "bullrope" match.

PG-13 beat Tommy Rich & Doug Gilbert in a "steel cage loser leaves town vs. title" match to win the USWA Tag Title.

 

4/24

 

Brian Christopher & Bill Dundee beat Tommy Rich & Bob Backlund when Christopher pinned Rich (24:37).

 

5/29

 

 

USWA Unified World Champ Jerry Lawler beat Tommy Rich via DQ.
Jerry Lawler, Bill Dundee, Brian Christopher, & PG-13 beat Doug Gilbert, Brian Lee, Tommy Rich, Jim Harris, & Max Muscle in a "coward waves the flag" match.

 

 

6/19

 

NWA Tag Champs The Rock-n-Roll Express beat PG-13 when Morton pinned Wolfie.
Doug Gilbert & Brian Lee beat Jerry Lawler & Bill Dundee in a "loser gets tarred & feathered" match when Dundee was pinned.

 

7/17

 

USWA Unified World Champ Jerry Lawler beat Buddy Landel via DQ.
The Rock-n-Roll Express beat PG-13 in a "Texas death" match.

 

7/31

 

PG-13, Tommy Rich, & Doug Gilbert beat Tracy Smothers, Robert Gibson, Buddy Landel, & Terry Gordy in a "street fight" match.

 

8/7

 

the Heavenly Bodies (Pritchard & Del Rey) beat PG-13 to win the USWA Tag Title.
USWA Unified World Champ Jerry Lawler beat Buddy Landel.

Jerry Lawler, Bill Dundee, PG-13, Tommy Rich, Doug Gilbert, & Billy Jack Haynes beat Tracy Smothers, Robert Gibson, Gorgeous George III, Buddy Landel, Pat Tanaka, & The Heavenly Bodies (Pritchard & Del Rey) in a "rage in a cage" match.

[khawk20]

I'd want a year from the late 60's or early 70's from Chicago's International Ampitheatre, or a year from the Minneapoilis Auditorium in the 60's. I would have to research it to pick a specific year, but seeing some of the AWA legends that really aren't well seen on video (Like the Larry Hennig/Harley Race tag team, Stevens and Bockwinkel, Prime Verne title defenses, Bruiser and Crusher...so many more) would be glorious.