iamthedoctor Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 According to WrestlingNewsSource.com, there are rumors circulating throughout wrestling that WWE officials are considering having Paul Heyman as the advocate for Ronda Rousey. Ronda made her debut at the Royal Rumble last Sunday and fans have been wondering what exactly they are going to do with her. It is also rumored that Heyman is directly involved with creative on Ronda's booking. With all of this speculation about Ronda Rousey and if she will have Paul Heyman as her advocate, it will be interesting to see what unfolds. Ladies and Gentlemen, my name is Paul Heyman. And I am the advocate for the reigning, defending, undisputed, WWE RAW Woman's Champion, RONDA! ROUSEY! Rinse and repeat at the four big ppvs, destroying all your top full timers as you go, go back to MMA after your year's contract is up, except your Hall of Fame Celebrity Wing induction, and bathe in the millions WWE paid you while Vince tries to make his battered Woman's division look good again after you made everyone look weak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rah Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 Remember when current stars were over-shadowed by past their prime WWF stars? Now they're being over-shadowed by past their prime UFC stars. /half jest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 Heyman is so stale next to Brock that I don't think this is a good idea. As a creative advocate for her to talk them out of doing something stupid, that's a different story. This is where wrestling suffers for Vince not liking managers. A fresh face that's younger and can cut great promos would be a better fit. Part of me wonders if they should repackage Graves and put him in that role, just thinking outside the box. Arn Anderson would also be awesome if they wouldn't script him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 If they want her to be a heel, just give her Vickie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stiva Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 They had MVP sitting around playing cards at Raw 25 and that dude was awesome on promos when he was in TNA. They could at least use The VIP Lounge on Smackdown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 Vicki can't cut serious promos. She's hateable because of her shrieking and I love her, but she's not a Paul Heyman-style talker without being Paul Heyman himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 Vicki can't cut serious promos. She's hateable because of her shrieking and I love her, but she's not a Paul Heyman-style talker without being Paul Heyman himself. Do you think they missed a major opportunity by making Kurt Angle so comic a figure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 I used to think that. Now I wish they'd make him that even more. He's never funny or interesting or really anything anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 What if they used Zelina Vega as her mouthpiece and agent? They could build to a match eventually going that route too, and it would definitely be a way to elevate Vega right away coming in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seabs Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 It'll never happen but I don't think Ronda should ever speak. Or at least very rarely and not for a long time. Her glare does more than words ever can for her. I don't think I'd even give her a mouthpiece but if I had to Heyman would be the only guy. Sure his material with Brock can be repetitive but when it's not he still knocks it out the park like nobody else in that role can. The thing with Ronda is you want her away from any pro wrestling traits and any other manager is a pro wrestling manager. But they ruined all that on Day 1 with the pointing to the Mania sign so whatever. They'll obviously book her strong but like with Brock they won't capture that true outsider force everyone bar the real heroes want to avoid. And she sure as shit shouldn't be working traditional style matches but aside from some early squashes I bet she does that too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 Ronda's going to be signed for more than one year. If they are hoping that having her will increase their next TV deal, she has to be under contract for at least two years since the current TV contract ends in September of 2019. Also while I don't know if Heyman should be her on screen advocate he definately should be her advocate backstage. By all accounts he was the reason Goldberg's second WWE run was a success since he had a hand in the creative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fakeplastictrees Posted February 6, 2018 Report Share Posted February 6, 2018 Would love to Abe Washington or Armando Estrada to come back and manage Ronda. Ronda is pretty cringeworthy promo at times. Heyman would be the worse choice as he is someone who needs to step away for a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted February 6, 2018 Report Share Posted February 6, 2018 The kids seem to like Brother Love right now. I just want it to be something ridiculously pro wrestling. Teddy Long? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Enthusiast Posted February 6, 2018 Report Share Posted February 6, 2018 Paul Heyman is most likely the source of this “rumor,” if I were to guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamthedoctor Posted February 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2018 Vicki can't cut serious promos. She's hateable because of her shrieking and I love her, but she's not a Paul Heyman-style talker without being Paul Heyman himself. That was probably the worst thing in the Rumble, anyone else than her would have been better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted February 6, 2018 Report Share Posted February 6, 2018 Agree that Heyman is beyond stale with Brock. But it's been 4 years now since he was paired with anyone else so I don't think it's necessarily a bad idea. It's fresh and you know Paul will be motivated like hell to make it work. It's def. not my first option (or even top 3) but I wouldn't bet against it working Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMKK Posted February 6, 2018 Report Share Posted February 6, 2018 Vicki can't cut serious promos. She's hateable because of her shrieking and I love her, but she's not a Paul Heyman-style talker without being Paul Heyman himself. That was probably the worst thing in the Rumble, anyone else than her would have been better. Comedy spots in Rumbles are both good and necessary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted February 6, 2018 Report Share Posted February 6, 2018 Vicki can't cut serious promos. She's hateable because of her shrieking and I love her, but she's not a Paul Heyman-style talker without being Paul Heyman himself. That was probably the worst thing in the Rumble, anyone else than her would have been better. Comedy spots in Rumbles are both good and necessary And frankly, there was something innately cool about getting to see Sasha interact with Eddy's wife. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMKK Posted February 6, 2018 Report Share Posted February 6, 2018 I never even thought of that aspect til now, but yeah that is cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted February 6, 2018 Report Share Posted February 6, 2018 I never even thought of that aspect til now, but yeah that is cool. We're off-topic but, that's kind of how the Women's Royal Rumble worked this year. Do you care that this torchbearer for the revolution who idolized Eddy is interacting with his wife? What about Lita and Sasha interacting? Do you care that the Divas of Destruction are hugging in the ring before Nattie went full Nattie? What about Asuka usurping the Yes kicks from Brie? What about the Bellas as post-diva bully gatekeepers? Etc. You can tell from Stacey's posts that there was a hell of a lot going on with that Rumble if you take the leap and immerse yourself in it. Was that true with the men's rumble? Sure, but I don't think quite as much. Maybe we take it for granted. Absolutely they take it for granted. Some of it is the amount of TV we have. Everything is far more interconnected now, but it wasn't with the women since so many we haven't seen in so long. It was very much like the Flair vs All of His Old Enemies bits of the 1992 one. You couldn't do that today because a guy like Reigns wrestles most of the roster in a given year. Are there still plenty of opportunities for next year? Even with that same exact group? Yeah. I want to see Beth Phoenix interact with Molly now that we know Molly basically put her through wrestling school. I want to see Bayley get to interact with Lita. Or have an uber-babyface off with Molly. I want to see Torrie and Kelly Kelly interact because that would be bonkers. Etc and so on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamthedoctor Posted February 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2018 I never even thought of that aspect til now, but yeah that is cool. We're off-topic but, that's kind of how the Women's Royal Rumble worked this year. Do you care that this torchbearer for the revolution who idolized Eddy is interacting with his wife? What about Lita and Sasha interacting? Do you care that the Divas of Destruction are hugging in the ring before Nattie went full Nattie? What about Asuka usurping the Yes kicks from Brie? What about the Bellas as post-diva bully gatekeepers? Etc. You can tell from Stacey's posts that there was a hell of a lot going on with that Rumble if you take the leap and immerse yourself in it. Was that true with the men's rumble? Sure, but I don't think quite as much. Maybe we take it for granted. Absolutely they take it for granted. Some of it is the amount of TV we have. Everything is far more interconnected now, but it wasn't with the women since so many we haven't seen in so long. It was very much like the Flair vs All of His Old Enemies bits of the 1992 one. You couldn't do that today because a guy like Reigns wrestles most of the roster in a given year. Are there still plenty of opportunities for next year? Even with that same exact group? Yeah. I want to see Beth Phoenix interact with Molly now that we know Molly basically put her through wrestling school. I want to see Bayley get to interact with Lita. Or have an uber-babyface off with Molly. I want to see Torrie and Kelly Kelly interact because that would be bonkers. Etc and so on. For me the womens Rumble came off alot better than the mens one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZThomas Posted February 9, 2018 Report Share Posted February 9, 2018 They had MVP sitting around playing cards at Raw 25 and that dude was awesome on promos when he was in TNA. They could at least use The VIP Lounge on Smackdown. He was always a good promo. They have Titus in that role and they fucked that up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyonthewall2983 Posted February 9, 2018 Report Share Posted February 9, 2018 I read that Rousey's involvement is being used as a tool to help Stephanie become more of a "mainstream star". Why doesn't she just manage Rousey then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted February 9, 2018 Report Share Posted February 9, 2018 That's at least the idea for the Mania match, but I don't know that it's the idea beyond that. It makes sense if you accept these truths: (1) They care more about television rights and stock prices than house show attendance and network subscriptions since the former are primary sources of revenue. (2) Because of this, their customers are on Wall Street now, not in their live crowds. In fact, we aren't the target audience, we're the product, presented to shareholders in sheer numbers -- number of viewers, number of social media followers, number of countries where they have fans, etc. They don't want the bottom to fall out, but we aren't the end goal anymore. We're mostly something they can brag about to the people they really care about. (3) They have decided that they want their public face to no longer be a man in his 70s, but a working mom. (4) As the face and voice of the company (the Chief Brand Officer), they want to put Stephanie's name out there more and make her more visible, because they think that is good for the image of the company and will make WWE more visible. (5) They think it is more important to the company's future to get Stephanie over with the general public and their shareholders than it is to generate interest in a hot new star or get their wrestling fanbase excited about something. Are all of those things true? I don't know 100%, but I suspect they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyonthewall2983 Posted February 9, 2018 Report Share Posted February 9, 2018 That's all probably much closer to the truth than a lot of us would want to admit to, I'm sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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