Slasher Posted May 18, 2018 Report Posted May 18, 2018 I wonder if them doing DB/Miz at the house show means they are warming up for the inevitable tv feud down the road or if they are about to go ahead and start the feud soon, and dismissing Big Cass from his push vs DB? Like was that beatdown Cass suffered at the hands of DB a signal that the feud is blown off?
sek69 Posted May 18, 2018 Report Posted May 18, 2018 I just read it as Cass's punishment for the "little Daniel" thing.
Slasher Posted May 18, 2018 Report Posted May 18, 2018 Yes obviously, but is part of the punishment that he loses his spot across the ring from Daniel Bryan in a high profile program or do they still have plans to continue that feud? Because while everyone would prefer to see DB vs Miz around the house show circuit, you'd think if they still planned to continue the Cass feud that they would give him time at house shows to get up to par vs DB through practice.
Strummer Posted May 18, 2018 Report Posted May 18, 2018 I actually saw someone tweet the other day that Bryan was being pushed too strong (!) after he tapped out Cass in that segment on Tuesday. Made me chuckle after all the talk and debate of him losing to Rusev last week
sek69 Posted May 18, 2018 Report Posted May 18, 2018 Yes obviously, but is part of the punishment that he loses his spot across the ring from Daniel Bryan in a high profile program or do they still have plans to continue that feud? Because while everyone would prefer to see DB vs Miz around the house show circuit, you'd think if they still planned to continue the Cass feud that they would give him time at house shows to get up to par vs DB through practice. i would think it takes a lot for Vince to completely sour on someone who checks off as many boxes that Cass does.
Jmare007 Posted May 18, 2018 Report Posted May 18, 2018 I wonder if them doing DB/Miz at the house show means they are warming up for the inevitable tv feud down the road or if they are about to go ahead and start the feud soon, and dismissing Big Cass from his push vs DB? Like was that beatdown Cass suffered at the hands of DB a signal that the feud is blown off? The DB/Miz matches were booked and announced during the week of the draft.
Loss Posted May 18, 2018 Report Posted May 18, 2018 Just to be certain, if they have a series, is everyone ok with Miz winning at least one match during it? I think Bryan should win the feud in the end but Miz going over once is not something that I think is a bad idea.
C.S. Posted May 19, 2018 Report Posted May 19, 2018 i would think it takes a lot for Vince to completely sour on someone who checks off as many boxes that Cass does. I wonder how overblown the Vince love rumors are. I don't remember Test ever getting a major push. Cass is basically Test 2.0, but at least Test had some positives going for him.
sek69 Posted May 19, 2018 Report Posted May 19, 2018 i would think it takes a lot for Vince to completely sour on someone who checks off as many boxes that Cass does. I wonder how overblown the Vince love rumors are. I don't remember Test ever getting a major push. Cass is basically Test 2.0, but at least Test had some positives going for him. He did a wedding angle with Steph and had a major match with Shane, can't get bigger pushes in Vince's mind than that.
C.S. Posted May 19, 2018 Report Posted May 19, 2018 He did a wedding angle with Steph and had a major match with Shane, can't get bigger pushes in Vince's mind than that. Well, I always heard that was a Russo call because they needed someone who looked like Triple H from behind. Even if McMahon made that decision, it's not exactly a major vote of confidence.
Jmare007 Posted May 19, 2018 Report Posted May 19, 2018 Just to be certain, if they have a series, is everyone ok with Miz winning at least one match during it? I think Bryan should win the feud in the end but Miz going over once is not something that I think is a bad idea. If they do have a series I hope they don't do it for 3 or 4 straight PPVs. When Miz wins one he should do whatever he can to never face Bryan again, people would get so pissed at him it would be awesome.
Zoo Enthusiast Posted May 19, 2018 Report Posted May 19, 2018 Just to be certain, if they have a series, is everyone ok with Miz winning at least one match during it? I think Bryan should win the feud in the end but Miz going over once is not something that I think is a bad idea. If they do have a series I hope they don't do it for 3 or 4 straight PPVs. When Miz wins one he should do whatever he can to never face Bryan again, people would get so pissed at him it would be awesome. Absolutely. I’d most prefer Miz winning MITB and having Bryan beat AJ at Summerslam or something, with Miz cashing in at some point later in the year. Could beat him in a rematch, too. Bryan wins the Rumble and finally beats him at Mania. The top of the card on SD is desperate for a refresh.
Strummer Posted May 19, 2018 Report Posted May 19, 2018 so what are the chances that Sami's segment with Lashley's "sisters" on Monday is this year's "Bayley: This is Your Life" ? Plus if it bombs I could see Sami taking most of the blame
Mad Dog Posted May 19, 2018 Report Posted May 19, 2018 i would think it takes a lot for Vince to completely sour on someone who checks off as many boxes that Cass does. I wonder how overblown the Vince love rumors are. I don't remember Test ever getting a major push. Cass is basically Test 2.0, but at least Test had some positives going for him. He did a wedding angle with Steph and had a major match with Shane, can't get bigger pushes in Vince's mind than that. He actually delivered pretty big on the Shane match. I think it's kind of shitting on Test to compare Cass to him. Test could bust out some moves and be lead to look good before the injuries seemed to really slow him down around 2001. Cass is so bad that DB couldn't get much out of him.
Alucard Posted May 19, 2018 Report Posted May 19, 2018 I always thought Test was awesome. Even later on, his one off match with Brock at KOTR 02 was pretty fun, and he was a really great heel in '03 during the Steiner/Stacy feud.
C.S. Posted May 19, 2018 Report Posted May 19, 2018 I think it's kind of shitting on Test to compare Cass to him. What I actually said: "Cass is basically Test 2.0, but at least Test had some positives going for him." You can't deny the similar looks, lack of charisma, etc. But yes, Test was much better than Cass.
Mad Dog Posted May 19, 2018 Report Posted May 19, 2018 Yeah, I think Test was lacking a little in charisma. I think he had some potential in 1999 but he never recovered from that HHH swerve and the injuries seemed to start piling up.
TonyPulis'Cap Posted May 21, 2018 Report Posted May 21, 2018 He did a wedding angle with Steph and had a major match with Shane, can't get bigger pushes in Vince's mind than that. Well, I always heard that was a Russo call because they needed someone who looked like Triple H from behind. Even if McMahon made that decision, it's not exactly a major vote of confidence. Not sure if I'm making it up, but wasn't Test pretty tight with Shane? They seemed to be linked together pretty often and I think I always remember reports that Shane would go to bat for him. Personally never minded Test, not much charisma - although he did play a great heel douchebag when he was with Stacy - if you go back and watch his run from the autumn to the end of 2001 as a sort of enforcer for the Alliance then there's some really good stuff. He even has a fairly decent match with Kane on PPV during that period.
Loss Posted May 21, 2018 Report Posted May 21, 2018 Shane thought Test should lead WCW during the Invasion. It was around this time that it became clear that he didnt have a strong booking mind.
Johnny Sorrow Posted May 23, 2018 Report Posted May 23, 2018 So, Steph is gonna screw Rousey and Jax is gonna be the "Corporate Champ", right?
BrianB Posted May 23, 2018 Report Posted May 23, 2018 WTF are they doing with Braun? Random team with Lashley, entering MITB, random team with Finn... It seems they really have no idea what they're doing there. i'd have him win at MITB and have him want to cash in the same night, not caring if Brock isn't there. That could be interesting. That's my guess, because they've completed taken the pedal off him, and now everybody is on Seth's jock.
BrianB Posted May 23, 2018 Report Posted May 23, 2018 So, Steph is gonna screw Rousey and Jax is gonna be the "Corporate Champ", right? When is RAW's TV negotiation rights deal period? And when does it end? I think all of that plays into this booking. On the one hand, you can see Ronda winning the title and being like Austin post-wm14 with Steph. On the other hand, I can see WWE being WWE and how Steph does not historically look like the loser in the same 3-1 ratio that Vince did. Even her being retconned into a puppet master or something makes me suspicious about how this will play out long-term. My hunch, without more info, is that you're right and they'll try to position Rousey like Austin was for WM15.
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