WWE Hidden Gems

[Ricky Jackson]

I dunno, I found the 9/1/73 card on Wrestlingdata and it lists Thesz vs Valentine 

https://www.wrestlingdata.com/index.php?befehl=shows&show=158040

[Steve T]

38 minutes ago, Captain Redneck said:

According to wrestlingdata.com Greg wrestled and lost to Tommy Seigler in Miami Beach that night. 

Johnny Valentine not Greg. 

[Steve T]

3 hours ago, Ricky Jackson said:

Oh man, that Valentine vs Thesz match could be awesome 

Was Thesz in '73 still decent? He was 57 by my count. 

[Ricky Jackson]

Yeah, but he was fucking Lou Thesz 

[Ricky Jackson]

And yes, based on what I've seen of him around that time he was still pretty good 

[conker8]

On 2/12/2019 at 3:33 PM, WrestlingPower said:

Who is the announcer on the 1981 World Class stuff?  He's much better than Mercer & Lowrance ended up being.  Sorry if this has already been covered here.

I remember reading on Wrestlingclassics that Steve Harms did the commentary.

Edit : found a link.

http://wrestlingclassics.com/.ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=113999

[PeteF3]

There's film of that Thesz-Valentine match out there, but I'm pretty sure it's not 14+ minutes worth. Big find.

[Ricky Jackson]

31 minutes ago, conker8 said:

I remember reading on Wrestlingclassics that Steve Harms did the commentary.

Edit : found a link.

http://wrestlingclassics.com/.ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=113999

Cool. Thanks for finally solving that mystery 

[paul sosnowski]

Hold on....we have two more coming on 2/14!!! 

Mid-Atlantic Wrestling 07/17/1980 – Masters of the Figure Four [Duration: 09:44]
Two masters of the figure four leg lock collide when ‘Nature Boy’ Ric Flair takes on Greg ‘The Hammer’ Valentine from the Norfolk Scope.

WWWF @ MSG 02/19/1979 – On Broadway [Duration: 01:08:14]
The WWE Championship is on the line at the World’s Most Famous Arena as Bob Backlund defends against Greg ‘The Hammer’ Valentine.

[peachchaos]

3 hours ago, Ricky Jackson said:

I dunno, I found the 9/1/73 card on Wrestlingdata and it lists Thesz vs Valentine 

https://www.wrestlingdata.com/index.php?befehl=shows&show=158040

I'll take all the Lou Thesz we can get, but I really hope they're sitting on a stash of Dory-Jack title matches ready to drop one of these weeks.

[peachchaos]

42 minutes ago, paul sosnowski said:

Hold on....we have two more coming on 2/14!!! 

Mid-Atlantic Wrestling 07/17/1980 – Masters of the Figure Four [Duration: 09:44]
Two masters of the figure four leg lock collide when ‘Nature Boy’ Ric Flair takes on Greg ‘The Hammer’ Valentine from the Norfolk Scope.

WWWF @ MSG 02/19/1979 – On Broadway [Duration: 01:08:14]
The WWE Championship is on the line at the World’s Most Famous Arena as Bob Backlund defends against Greg ‘The Hammer’ Valentine.

Well now this is a horse of a different color. Not sure if the first clip is out there at all, but the broadway is a stone cold classic.

Marty's 5 star review

[PeteF3]

I'm assuming Flair-Valentine is 8mm ringside footage a la Flair-Rogers from the same venue. It would definitely be "new."

Weird that the rest of that MSG show hasn't turned up since the main event aired on 24/7 years ago, not that it looks like an overly interesting card, but it does have Tatsumi Fujinami and Allen Coage working squashes.

[WrestlingPower]

Wonder if that Norfolk match is from the George Pantas collection that they bought.  This was stuff originally used as bonus footage on one of the Mid-Atlantic documentaries.

[paul sosnowski]

Hmm...Thesz vs Valentine is silent footage...Where's Gordon Solie???

[Matt D]

re: Flair vs Valentine. 

I have no idea whether we had this or not, but the angle leading up to this series sounds pretty cool.

http://www.midatlanticgateway.com/2016/08/dream-team-part-6.html

http://www.midatlanticgateway.com/2016/08/dream-team-part-7.html

There's audio on those two pages.

Reference for the second page: The 60 minute draw between the two was 5/25. The promo is 5/28. The Valentine swerve came on 6/8. The match is 7/17.

[shoe]

I’m a mark for those wrestling is real segments. So I loved the Valentine breaking boards with his elbow drop.

[flyonthewall2983]

On 2/13/2019 at 5:59 PM, Ricky Jackson said:

And yes, based on what I've seen of him around that time he was still pretty good 

Too bad he never worked a match with Flair

[peachchaos]

9 hours ago, flyonthewall2983 said:

Too bad he never worked a match with Flair

 no, but I bet he worked Jack Brisco

[peachchaos]

On 2/14/2019 at 11:08 AM, Matt D said:

re: Flair vs Valentine. 

I have no idea whether we had this or not, but the angle leading up to this series sounds pretty cool.

http://www.midatlanticgateway.com/2016/08/dream-team-part-6.html

http://www.midatlanticgateway.com/2016/08/dream-team-part-7.html

There's audio on those two pages.

Reference for the second page: The 60 minute draw between the two was 5/25. The promo is 5/28. The Valentine swerve came on 6/8. The match is 7/17.

We also have clips from 7/26, 9/1, 9/24, and 12/20 and tags with Flair & Mosco vs. Valentine & Sheiky baby from 8/17 & 9/6 if anyone needs more Dream Team Implodes in their life.

[khawk20]

On 2/14/2019 at 9:36 AM, WrestlingPower said:

Wonder if that Norfolk match is from the George Pantas collection that they bought.  This was stuff originally used as bonus footage on one of the Mid-Atlantic documentaries.

The clip from the doc that used the Pantas footage is dated 9/18/80, from the Scope. 

Not to say that they used all that footage in the bonus features of the doc, I am sure they didn't. 

[paul sosnowski]

For Thursday February 21, 2019--        Another new match from Houston!!!  

Championship Wrestling From Florida 03/03/1966 – The Mighty Monroe [Duration: 13:50]

Legendary pioneer Sputnik Monroe goes one-on-one with Jack Pesek in this bout from Florida.

 

AWA 09/07/1974 – Bobo, Bobby and The Bruiser [Duration: 13:01]

Bobby Heenan teams up with the sadistic Sheik to face the tough tandem of Bobo Brazil and Dick the Bruiser from historic Comiskey Park.

 

Championship Wrestling From Florida 02/14/1978 – Tangling in Tampa [Duration: 09:49]

The Florida Tag Team Championships are on the line as WWE Hall of Famers Rocky Johnson and Pedro Morales take on Ivan Koloff and Mr. Saito.

 

Houston Wrestling 09/09/1983 – Every Dog Has Its Day [Duration: 13:41]

Junkyard Dog and ‘Mad Dog’ Buzz Sawyer battle to see whether it’s the size of the dog in the fight or the size of the fight in the dog.

[conker8]

Sputnik Monroe !!

[Ricky Jackson]

21 minutes ago, conker8 said:

Sputnik Monroe !!

That's who I'm interested in seeing. 

Is the Comiskey Park footage with Heenan and the Sheik new?

Edit: Never mind, it's on YouTube. Surprised I haven't watched it before. Or maybe I have lol 

[sek69]

I'm assuming the Sputnik match is one of those no-sound 16mm deals from Florida? I never quite understood why they would film things like that. Other territories barely valued taping on regular film and the Grahams are out there all avant garde and shit.

[hammerva]

Is this one of the first full or close to full matches of Sputnik Monroe out there?  Maybe in Memphis TV they showed a best of him with small clips.  I know there was a 70's Memphis house show DVD' many years ago but not sure if a Monroe match was on it