Al Posted October 20, 2007 Report Posted October 20, 2007 I'm wondering how many more times they can cram some form of that awful Stallions/Shadows feud on Primetime.None thankfully, looking at Graham Cawthon's match listing. NWA this week has the Ric Flair/Ron Garvin title match I've seen praised in quite a few places. I'd be curious to see some thoughts from those who have seen it. I haven't gotten to it myself on the show yet. Quote
Mad Dog Posted October 21, 2007 Report Posted October 21, 2007 Who is this guy calling himself Sid at Halloween Havoc 89 and what did he do to the shitty Sid we all know and love? Quote
Loss Posted October 21, 2007 Author Report Posted October 21, 2007 I'm wondering how many more times they can cram some form of that awful Stallions/Shadows feud on Primetime.None thankfully, looking at Graham Cawthon's match listing. NWA this week has the Ric Flair/Ron Garvin title match I've seen praised in quite a few places. I'd be curious to see some thoughts from those who have seen it. I haven't gotten to it myself on the show yet. Really awesome, INCREDIBLY stiff match with both guys beating the hell out of each other. I think it will be well received. Good match for people to watch who think Flair only had one type of match he could do. Quote
Al Posted October 21, 2007 Report Posted October 21, 2007 I did see the match and loved it. I was pleasantly surprised how good the Magnum T.A./Ole Anderson match was as well. As good a weekly show as I have ever seen. If you have 24/7, I can not recommend this show highly enough. Quote
Mad Dog Posted October 22, 2007 Report Posted October 22, 2007 Yeah, that's probably the best Ronnie Garvin match I've ever seen. Just a great match. I really want to know how people could pick the slow WWF style over how hard hitting the WCW shows could be in the mid 80s. Quote
Al Posted October 22, 2007 Report Posted October 22, 2007 Yeah, that's probably the best Ronnie Garvin match I've ever seen. Just a great match. I really want to know how people could pick the slow WWF style over how hard hitting the WCW shows could be in the mid 80s.In fairness, I've been as impressed at times with WWF Ron Garvin. Quote
Strummer Posted October 22, 2007 Report Posted October 22, 2007 Yeah, that's probably the best Ronnie Garvin match I've ever seen. Just a great match. I really want to know how people could pick the slow WWF style over how hard hitting the WCW shows could be in the mid 80s. The WWF had some awesome brawls in the early 80s. 85-89 was pretty rough for hard hitting wrestling but it was there at the beginning of the decade Quote
Mad Dog Posted October 22, 2007 Report Posted October 22, 2007 They had it here and there but they loved those fucking 20 minute SD Jones matches and those were always boring as hell. I just don't get the appeal of the WWF style until they had stolen a lot of talent by about 1987. And even when they got guys like a Bob Orton they totally dumbed their moveset and style down. Quote
Mad Dog Posted October 24, 2007 Report Posted October 24, 2007 ARGH!!! The Philly arena show they added has another fucking Stallions/Shadows match. Fuck this feud. Not a single good match in the lot. Quote
sek69 Posted October 24, 2007 Report Posted October 24, 2007 Poor Randy Colley, in a span of a few months he went from being half of Demolition to being half of a masked jobber team in a death feud with the fucking Stallions. Quote
Al Posted October 24, 2007 Report Posted October 24, 2007 ARGH!!! The Philly arena show they added has another fucking Stallions/Shadows match. Fuck this feud. Not a single good match in the lot. Even worse, it's one of the SAME ones from Prime Time Wrestling. At least the feud went away, but the Stallions push lasted through the Survivor Series. Tip to wrestling promoters in the future. If you want to put young talent over, you can't just make heels up. Quote
JHawk Posted October 24, 2007 Report Posted October 24, 2007 At least you guys got spared the match they had on Superstars around that time. Actually, that one was only four minutes, so that would have been the better one to get. Quote
Bix Posted October 24, 2007 Report Posted October 24, 2007 Did people notice 20 years ago how weird Prime Time was with repeating matches and presenting matches and skits that were 2 years-old as new? Quote
JHawk Posted October 24, 2007 Report Posted October 24, 2007 Did people notice 20 years ago how weird Prime Time was with repeating matches and presenting matches and skits that were 2 years-old as new?Like when they just randomly repeated the Muraco-Fuji standup routine? Or showed the same Outback Jack match two out of three weeks? Quote
Cox Posted October 24, 2007 Report Posted October 24, 2007 Did people notice 20 years ago how weird Prime Time was with repeating matches and presenting matches and skits that were 2 years-old as new?I think on one of the last Prime Times that aired, they did this with the Blowaway Diet fake commercial with Buddy Rose. I just think they were often pressed for time, so they would just reair something on there and hope nobody noticed. I don't get the feeling Prime Time was very high priority at this point anyway, they cared more about the syndie package because cable wasn't nearly as prominent. Quote
Mad Dog Posted October 25, 2007 Report Posted October 25, 2007 Primetime was on about the level that ECW is at now. Quote
sek69 Posted October 25, 2007 Report Posted October 25, 2007 Yeah, Prime Time is one of those things that is looked at completely different in hindsight. Prime Time was like the WWF equivalent of WCW Pro. Superstars and Wrestling Challenge were the main shows. Hell, even All-American Wrestling was probably on a higher level than Prime Time. I do miss seeing random Boston Garden and MSG house show matches on TV every week, but then 24/7 has reminded me how insufferably dull some of the 20 minute headlockfests between jobbers can be. Quote
Tim Evans Posted October 25, 2007 Report Posted October 25, 2007 What made primetime was the Heenan/Gorilla segments, not the wrestling. Quote
sek69 Posted October 25, 2007 Report Posted October 25, 2007 What made primetime was the Heenan/Gorilla segments, not the wrestling. Not that they weren't awesome, but most weeks the competition was a hot Iron Mike Sharpe vs Masked Destroyer #75 match. Then again, Prime Time was pretty much the only place you'd see someone like Lanny Poffo or Steve Lombardi actually win a match. Quote
Mad Dog Posted October 25, 2007 Report Posted October 25, 2007 What made primetime was the Heenan/Gorilla segments, not the wrestling. That's the only reason I give it the time of day. Compared to World Championship Wrestling and WCCW it's very outdated, slow and bad action. I wish they'd start doing Superstars so I could actually get some angle development between shows. Quote
sek69 Posted October 25, 2007 Report Posted October 25, 2007 They can't, since they lost a lawsuit over the rights to the "SuperStars of Wrestling" name. Notice when you see 80s WWF TV matches on 24/7 the Superstars banner is blurred out. Quote
JHawk Posted October 25, 2007 Report Posted October 25, 2007 There's no reason they can't show Wrestling Challenge though since they'd at least show clips of the improtant stuff on Superstars anyway (or even go back to the Championship Wrestling days). Quote
Guest *FH* Posted October 25, 2007 Report Posted October 25, 2007 They can't, since they lost a lawsuit over the rights to the "SuperStars of Wrestling" name. Notice when you see 80s WWF TV matches on 24/7 the Superstars banner is blurred out. I've never heard of this. What's the deal? Also, I think people complaining about the first match or two on old house shows being soul sucking jobber headlockfests are missing the point. Those matches were usually just filler, as the crowd always arrived late. Quote
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