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I stumbled upon the directory for (I think) a Japanese website some time back that had a lot of videos of fancams from Japanese house shows, one of which was my Steven Wright experience, a match with Yoshiaki Fujiwara that was pretty awesome. For the life of me, I can't recall how to get to the website, but just so you know, that's out there as well in some form or another.

http://home.intercity.or.jp/users/saigou/asf/

 

That's the one. Thanks.

 

And this would be the match.

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I hope Nagata recovers as well as he possibly can. Brain damage is more of a problem in wrestling than I think most have ever realised in years past. You read about what happened to Nagata and you make a quick connection to Bret Hart.

 

Did someone die the last couple of months in one of the indy companys? I seem to remember reading so.

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Is it me, or does the Wrestlemania card look one of the worst ever?

 

The triple-threat is so predictable, and nobody really wants to see it. I don't know why they couldn't have just held off and done the big Orton/Cena blowoff here, or even better, had Orton main event against Hardy, maybe in some sort of gimmick match. It would send out a big signal that WWE is concentrating on the future.

 

They've really fucked it up with Hardy anyway. From what I've heard, he's hotter than anyone right now, and they should have done what they did with Eddie in 2004 and stuck the belt on him. As it is, I'm not sure anyone is going to care by the time he finally gets it, the shock value will have gone.

 

Undertaker/Edge just looks really dull, Edge is a better character than wrestler and I'm not sure Taker is going to go well with him. It's clear the streak isn't ending as well, unlike last year when there was a bit of doubt.

 

I've got a feeling the builup to the Mayweather stuff will be better than the actual match itself, Shane is a tired character and they would do well to use someone else in that role.

 

Having MITb every year just destroys the interest in the ladder match. With 8 wrestlers apparently, so it's going to be a complete mess where things that should look brutal get lost in the shuffle, and Jeff gets the predictable win. His talents are much better used elsewhere.

 

But anyway, this looks like a pretty terrible event to me, and not one likely to revive anyone's interest in wrestling. Of the storylines, only the Mayweather stuff looks interesting, and even that will likely blow as a match.

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Is it me, or does the Wrestlemania card look one of the worst ever?

 

The triple-threat is so predictable, and nobody really wants to see it. I don't know why they couldn't have just held off and done the big Orton/Cena blowoff here, or even better, had Orton main event against Hardy, maybe in some sort of gimmick match. It would send out a big signal that WWE is concentrating on the future.

 

They've really fucked it up with Hardy anyway. From what I've heard, he's hotter than anyone right now, and they should have done what they did with Eddie in 2004 and stuck the belt on him. As it is, I'm not sure anyone is going to care by the time he finally gets it, the shock value will have gone.

 

Undertaker/Edge just looks really dull, Edge is a better character than wrestler and I'm not sure Taker is going to go well with him. It's clear the streak isn't ending as well, unlike last year when there was a bit of doubt.

 

I've got a feeling the builup to the Mayweather stuff will be better than the actual match itself, Shane is a tired character and they would do well to use someone else in that role.

 

Having MITb every year just destroys the interest in the ladder match. With 8 wrestlers apparently, so it's going to be a complete mess where things that should look brutal get lost in the shuffle, and Jeff gets the predictable win. His talents are much better used elsewhere.

 

But anyway, this looks like a pretty terrible event to me, and not one likely to revive anyone's interest in wrestling. Of the storylines, only the Mayweather stuff looks interesting, and even that will likely blow as a match.

 

You had me until you made it clear you aren't even watching the shows anymore.

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Is it me, or does the Wrestlemania card look one of the worst ever?

 

The triple-threat is so predictable, and nobody really wants to see it. I don't know why they couldn't have just held off and done the big Orton/Cena blowoff here, or even better, had Orton main event against Hardy, maybe in some sort of gimmick match. It would send out a big signal that WWE is concentrating on the future.

 

They've really fucked it up with Hardy anyway. From what I've heard, he's hotter than anyone right now, and they should have done what they did with Eddie in 2004 and stuck the belt on him. As it is, I'm not sure anyone is going to care by the time he finally gets it, the shock value will have gone.

 

Undertaker/Edge just looks really dull, Edge is a better character than wrestler and I'm not sure Taker is going to go well with him. It's clear the streak isn't ending as well, unlike last year when there was a bit of doubt.

 

I've got a feeling the builup to the Mayweather stuff will be better than the actual match itself, Shane is a tired character and they would do well to use someone else in that role.

 

Having MITb every year just destroys the interest in the ladder match. With 8 wrestlers apparently, so it's going to be a complete mess where things that should look brutal get lost in the shuffle, and Jeff gets the predictable win. His talents are much better used elsewhere.

 

But anyway, this looks like a pretty terrible event to me, and not one likely to revive anyone's interest in wrestling. Of the storylines, only the Mayweather stuff looks interesting, and even that will likely blow as a match.

 

You had me until you made it clear you aren't even watching the shows anymore.

 

That and pretty much the whole post translates to "WAHHHH they're not booking Jeff Hardy the way I'd like them to!" Jesus.

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I know stuff like this gets said by WWE apologists all the time, but I really do think that they're going to go with Hardy at some point this year, but because plans were already set for Wrestlemania, they were afraid to change them, and decided to stay the course. Up until the last minute, they were talking about him possibly beating Orton at the Rumble or being an upset winner of the Elimination Chamber. I do think he'll win MITB and get the belt before the year is over.

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That and pretty much the whole post translates to "WAHHHH they're not booking Jeff Hardy the way I'd like them to!" Jesus.

I don't even like Jeff Hardy. But it seems like he's the most over guy right now, and I liked it in 2004 when they surprised people and put the title on Eddie quite suddenly because he'd got so over. HHH has had a million runs, Cena has had the belt for the past three years, it'd be nice to see something a bit different, and if that guy is Jeff Hardy, well so be it.

 

I know stuff like this gets said by WWE apologists all the time, but I really do think that they're going to go with Hardy at some point this year

I understand that, but people could be bored of him by then, it's best to strike while the iron's hot.

 

, they were afraid to change them,

Well that's the complaint, that the plans they had in place are basically crap.

 

I do think he'll win MITB and get the belt before the year is over.

Well, exactly, we can all predict that. It's boring. I'd much rather have seen him get a surprise victory at Royal Rumble or No Way Out, or do it at Wrestlemania.

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Why do people get so upset about WWE "wasting" Jeff Hardy's push? Like every guy who gets put into a title program automatically has to win it. I mean, I know that's a regular thing in WWE these days (MVP vs. Benoit, Punk vs. Morrison, Chavo vs. Punk, Batista vs. everyone else), but it's not like it's an unusual - or even ineffective - booking technique.

 

Also, bullet points of things I've said a million times before that no one wants to see me go over again, but that apply here:

 

*That Cena feller might have something to say about being the most over guy right now

*Different isn't always good

*Predictable isn't always bad

*Anarchistxx hating HHH is kinda funny to me for obvious reasons

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To add to the points SLL made, Eddie's title run is a really poorly chosen example to back up the idea that they've somehow screwed up Jeff Hardy's push beyond repair. The shock value and surprise of Eddie's win did not propel his title run to be a major commercial success. Indeed, it fizzled out pretty quickly because they had set up so few marketable heels to feud with him over the title. Sure, it was a memorable moment, but the rushed nature of him winning the World title and JBL becoming the top contender to it, led to a pretty disappointing run at the box office for the Smackdown brand.

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And to add to that, Eddie did very nicely at the box office the following year in a feud with Rey where the only title at stake was "Dominic's father". Right now, I get the feeling that Jeff Hardy could become a real money draw, but that doesn't mean they have to go all out all at once with him. And if people get bored of him before that happens, well, that doesn't exactly speak well of how long he would have held their attention as champ, does it?

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To add to the points SLL made, Eddie's title run is a really poorly chosen example to back up the idea that they've somehow screwed up Jeff Hardy's push beyond repair. The shock value and surprise of Eddie's win did not propel his title run to be a major commercial success. Indeed, it fizzled out pretty quickly because they had set up so few marketable heels to feud with him over the title. Sure, it was a memorable moment, but the rushed nature of him winning the World title and JBL becoming the top contender to it, led to a pretty disappointing run at the box office for the Smackdown brand.

Not really sure what was rushed about Eddie's win of the title. They were hinting at it since 2003 US title run.

 

and problem finding contenders for Eddie in 2004 wasn't about the speed of him winning.

 

WWF is really as shitty as ROH at finding new contenders once last series is over.

 

How many times did they run battle royales in 2004 to determine number one challenger for title?

Device for creating number one challenger basically was brand switch or battle royale for number one challenger spot.

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In general though, it seems like a strange time to pick on the WWE's direction. Most fans seemed extremely happy with the last two PPVs. and the two main events at Mania are set to pay off long-simmering feuds between the company's biggest stars. Plus, Hardy's push is likely to continue with a spectacular win in the MITB. I mean, what the hell do you want? If you don't like what's going on now, you're probably not meant to be a fan of the E.

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Also, the period of WMXX and immediately after saw some of the most severe talent losses in WWE history up until that point, with Undertaker and Angle injured, Brock and Goldberg quitting and Rock and Austin gone for good. If I'm not completely mistaken, this was the period when the definitive decision to concentrate star power on RAW and make SD the B-show was made.

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