Jingus Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 LIST THEMJust curious, whaddya mean by that? I don't know what exactly you were trying to communicate, but to me it came off like you didn't believe me and were challenging me to back up my statement. I said that JBL playing bumper-Cena made the "seventh or eighth" incident I could remember of attempted vehicular homicide in the WWE, and we came up with well over a dozen examples here, so it's not like I was indulging in wild hyperbole. Oh, and I remembered another one. When the Big Bossman ran over the Big Show with the Bluesmobile at Show's fake father's fake funeral, right before Show went coffin surfing. ...if there are any Vince Russo supporters still left, please direct your attention to the previous sentence for why I firmly believe we need to send a T-1000 back through time to kill Russo before he ever became involved with wrestling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 ..if there are any Vince Russo supporters still left, please direct your attention to the previous sentence for why I firmly believe we need to send a T-1000 back through time to kill Russo before he ever became involved with wrestling. Or like me, plan on devoting 20 minutes tomorrow to watching WarGames 2000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingus Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 Hell, a few of us at TSM have founded basically a bi-weekly Watch Shitty Late-Era WCW Shows And Bitch About It In The Chatroom club. Tomorrow we're doing Bash at the Beach 2000. I predict much cursing from myself. But we aren't watching it because it's good wrestling by any standard definition; it's simply for us weird MST3K types who likes to subject ourselves to crappy entertainment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerpride Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 Bash at the Beach is awesome. It's a fun show, with enough WCW crap plus an awesome main event and the shoot on Hogan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodySave Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 The latest case of a random dude working a newspaper into thinking he was a big wrestling star. Do reporters not know how to use Google? I actually frequent a blog that covers many of the wrestling promotions in Missouri, Kansas, Iowa, and Illinois - even the really small indys. This dude's name is nowhere to be found on the entire site. There's some hilarious quotes in that article, but yeah, this is awful journalism. As someone who used to write for a newspaper, it frustrates me to see garbage like this that clearly wasn't researched at all, and if it was, not on reputable websites or sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted July 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 There's apparently a story in the latest issue of Powerslam magazine about the WCW headliners during the peak seeing Mr. Belding from Saved By The Bell on a plane and freaking out and getting excited. I find that hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Evil Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 There's apparently a story in the latest issue of Powerslam magazine about the WCW headliners during the peak seeing Mr. Belding from Saved By The Bell on a plane and freaking out and getting excited. I find that hilarious. I think it'd be more of a news story if they didn't freak out and get excited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indikator Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 The latest case of a random dude working a newspaper into thinking he was a big wrestling star. Do reporters not know how to use Google? I actually frequent a blog that covers many of the wrestling promotions in Missouri, Kansas, Iowa, and Illinois - even the really small indys. This dude's name is nowhere to be found on the entire site. There's some hilarious quotes in that article, but yeah, this is awful journalism. As someone who used to write for a newspaper, it frustrates me to see garbage like this that clearly wasn't researched at all, and if it was, not on reputable websites or sources. Could he have been Big Nasty Bill from WLW? Anyway, please post the link of that blog. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 There's apparently a story in the latest issue of Powerslam magazine about the WCW headliners during the peak seeing Mr. Belding from Saved By The Bell on a plane and freaking out and getting excited. I find that hilarious.Yeah, it was an article by Matt Randazzo, if I'm thinking of the same thing. If there's any call for it, I could summarise the article when I get a little time either tomorrow or next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingus Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 Could he have been Big Nasty Bill from WLW?That sounds familiar. Is he a guy who looks like a cross between Stan Hansen and the big bald German guy who punched out Indy and then got chopped up by the plane propellor in Raiders of the Lost Ark? If so, I managed him a couple times, and I don't think it's the same guy as this dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indikator Posted July 19, 2008 Report Share Posted July 19, 2008 Found this gem on a football board. No clue when this happened, this was the first time I heard about the incident. "Worst form of sportsmanship----a chilean goalie faked an injury, captured on film taking a razor and cutting his eyebrow......i think chile was banned from the qualifiers for that i think" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 Anyone else get the sinking feeling that they are building to a Jericho/Michaels blindfold match at Summerslam? The booking is obviously making it seem that way. Could they have the first good blindfold match in wrestling history? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingus Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 I've always wondered why they never combine some other gimmick with the blindfold in order to make it more fighting and less hide-and-seek. Like, just add a dog collar stipulation, something along those lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 Found this gem on a football board. No clue when this happened, this was the first time I heard about the incident. "Worst form of sportsmanship----a chilean goalie faked an injury, captured on film taking a razor and cutting his eyebrow......i think chile was banned from the qualifiers for that i think" The goalkeeper's name was Roberto Rojas and the incident occurred in a qualifying match for the 1990 world cup. Chile were losing and a defeat would have seen them eliminated from contention, so he took matters in to his own hands. About three quarters through the game, he crumpled to the floor beside a flooring of flares, banners, and coins, holding his face and writhing ever more exageratedly. He was helped from the pitch sporting a crimson mask. His goal was straightforward: A cancellation of the match would have seen a commission rule in Chile's favour, putting them in the world cup. It all fell apart, however, when TV cameras revealed he hadn't been touched. It was later dicovered that he had cut himself with a razor blade that he carried in his glove. The match result was upheld, and he was disqualified for life, the carny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Poor Bastard Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 Anyone else get the sinking feeling that they are building to a Jericho/Michaels blindfold match at Summerslam? The booking is obviously making it seem that way. Could they have the first good blindfold match in wrestling history? i thought the hhh v d'lo blindfold match was kinda fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kronos Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 I have never seen a blindfold match I liked. But putting a dog collar on it would make it interesting. At least they would be able to find each other. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hack Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 I'd like to see a blindfold match where the wrestlers actually couldn't see what they were doing. More often than not it's painfully obvious that they can see what they are doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomk Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 Blindfold matches is an old fashioned stip aimed at arena crowd. the whole match and match payy offs are built around crowd interaction spots. I remember as a kid enjoying one of these but the WWF and especially PPV WWF is about matches playing to the TV and not the arena. The viewer at home can't interact with the match, it doesn't work for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted July 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 I think there's a lot of fun spots you can do in a blindfold match to make it worth watching, but the problem is they're all comedy spots, and Jericho/Michaels has turned into a blood feud. Not really a suitable payoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Evil Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 So everybody's been just drooling at the mouth over how awesome Jericho has been in every aspect of professional wrestling lately. I don't have much to say other than that I'm happy that Jericho is doing well and everybody is noticing it. Good for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted July 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 It's possible that he's better than he's ever been right now. His comeback started off really shaky, but the heel turn has been great for him. They should let him run with the belt for a while. Since they seem to be screwing up and doing Cena/Batista now instead of at Wrestlemania, maybe Jericho/Cena should be the main event of WM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 It's possible that he's better than he's ever been right now. His comeback started off really shaky, but the heel turn has been great for him. They should let him run with the belt for a while. Since they seem to be screwing up and doing Cena/Batista now instead of at Wrestlemania, maybe Jericho/Cena should be the main event of WM. Just my own humble opinion, but I think the draft -- specifically, a certain someone who was on RAW forever and is now on Smackdown -- has only helped Jericho. What's amazing is Jericho got to take him and Cena out along with Cade, and that particular someone never got his heat back on Jericho like he normally would've in the past. Jericho's looked tremendous, but the booking of him may have never been stronger than it is now, at least with the WWE. Heck, I can't remember him having anywhere near this level of an advantage over Michaels in their 02-03 feud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted July 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 I found it surprising that HHH would even be on a different show than Jericho, because in 2002-2003, he wouldn't let the guy out of his sight. He was used to get every babyface over HHH was about to face, and when HHH switched shows, he dragged Jericho with him, despite Jericho having an ongoing feud with Edge that wasn't even resolved. I guess at that point, Jericho was still a threat to his spot. Now, in 2008, he's not, even if Jericho ends up catching fire. And yes, he's being booked much stronger than he ever has been, including his runs on top against guys like The Rock. Meltzer made the point in a recent WON that they seem to be phasing Michaels into a Flair role of the respected veteran that will always be cheered no matter what, while Jericho is settling into the workhorse role of the guy who typically has the best match on every show and generally has good feuds. I think the acting classes Jericho took in his time off also improved his delivery to a point where it's now maybe his strong point on promos. He was always a charismatic guy, but had a habit of looking down at the ground and pacing when doing interviews that I think made them less effective, and I think because he's older and more established now, it's easier for him to actually get over as a threatening heel, especially when he's actually being booked as one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeCampbell Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 Small correction, Loss, but I beleive that the feud between Edge and Jericho was blown off. Edge beat him in a cage match (the same match where he hurt his shoulder) on the same night Mysterio debuted. Jericho and the Un-Americans jumped to RAW the next week. Watching him and Cade dog Michaels was bringing back memories of the awesome Jericho/Malenko feud in '98. Only a much more serious tone, whereas '98 Jericho was so over the top and goofy that he was actually being entertaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 Has there ever been a worse documentary about wrestling than "WWE Unauthorised"? Or a more unknowledgable wrestling author than Shaun Assael, co-author of Sex, Lies, & Headlocks and a contributor to the aforementioned documentary? He picks up on scraps, embellishes bits, and they're reported as facts. Just off the top of my head, I recall him mentioning John Zahorian (only a minor blooper, I suppose), but then he starts narrating the Montreal Screwjob. Apparently Shawn pinned Bret and the ref fast-counted him, one, two, three. He describes in vivid detail how the viewer could see the blood dripping from McMahon's mouth after Bret struck him, even though anyone who saw Wrestling With Shadows or Vince nursing a shiner on Raw eight days later knows differently; he also states that Vince renamed himself "The Evil Commissioner", a name which is mentioned at multiple reprises afterwards, particularly when focussing on Owen Hart. I thought that this was the worst hatchet job I've ever seen, just because it was all a pack of half-truths and evident inconsistencies and lies. It would be so easy to go after Vince if you wanted to that failing to this extent is gloriously bad. Has anybody else had the misfortune to see this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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