sek69 Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 Anyone else somewhat surprised that the Paco Alonso writeup was basically "here is a dude the Lutteroth family let sit in the big chair and he didn't fuck things up"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted September 6, 2008 Report Share Posted September 6, 2008 So the local morning show was discussing the upcoming movie "The Wrestler" as part of its news segment, and once it was determined the movie was about pro wrestling they surmised it must be a comedy (hint: it's not). The one news babe actually said "well it stars Mickey Rourke so it should be funny". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Posted September 6, 2008 Report Share Posted September 6, 2008 Here's a more favorable write-up from the BBC. Â http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7600873.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indikator Posted September 6, 2008 Report Share Posted September 6, 2008  Is this footage in circulation? I've always wanted to see Portland Snuka. Date is (probably) either 74-07-20 or 74-07-23  (André the Giant beat Ripper Collins and Kim Sung Ho and Rasputin on the undercard or André the Giant and Jimmy Snuka beat Rasputin, Ripper Collins and Kim Sung Ho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted September 6, 2008 Report Share Posted September 6, 2008 It never was before. I sent them a message to see if they do DVDs or tapes of it (and any other Portland films). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khawk20 Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 It never was before. I sent them a message to see if they do DVDs or tapes of it (and any other Portland films). Please keep us posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingus Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 "The Wrestler" Variety has got a review so positive it borders on fellatio. I never would've believed it, but we might actually have the world's first-ever fictional movie about wrestling which is actually good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 Yet still, 99% of the population will hear its a movie about pro wrestling and assume it's a zany screwball comedy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Autoclave Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 "The Wrestler" Variety has got a review so positive it borders on fellatio. I never would've believed it, but we might actually have the world's first-ever fictional movie about wrestling which is actually good. The original Night and the City, and to a much lesser extent Barton Fink are both about wrestling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingus Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 Yeah, but neither one broke kayfabe or treated it realistically. I've never seen Night and the City, but have gathered the impression that it's a standard noir boxing flick but with wrestling taking the place of boxing. And it would really be a stretch to call Barton Fink a "wrestling movie"; it's a minor subplot at best with John Turturro's character being hired to write a crappy wrestling flick, and the only actual wrestling is an amateur-style bout which happens in a hotel room and lasts about two seconds. Â I've thought for years that you could make a fun backstage mockumentary type movie out of wrestling, along the lines of Spinal Tap and the Christopher Guest flicks. In that kind of film, you can be true to the realities of the industry, but just exaggerate the characters a little bit for the laughs, and you can poke fun at it while still not insulting the intelligence of people who know how it really works. Unfortunately, we keep getting shit like Ready to Rumble instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomk Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 Martin Landau was pretty good as Stu Hart and Oliver Platt made a fine Embry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingus Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 Nothing about that movie was good. Nothing. When the Day of Judgement arrives, St. Peter will use this as part of his criteria to determine where a soul goes. "Well, you did visit a bunch of sick children in the hospital, so that's obviously a boost in your favor. But... you were in Ready to Rumble... sorry, it's hellfire and damnation for you." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 Nothing about that movie was good. Nothing. When the Day of Judgement arrives, St. Peter will use this as part of his criteria to determine where a soul goes. "Well, you did visit a bunch of sick children in the hospital, so that's obviously a boost in your favor. But... you were in Ready to Rumble... sorry, it's hellfire and damnation for you."Oh, bullshit. "Ready To Rumble" is fantastic "It's 3:30 am and I'm stoned" viewing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kronos Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 Just watched Unforgiven. Lot to like, good bit to hate. But I have only one thing to say: Â F**k HHH. Â Â EDIT: I actually have one other thing to mention. Since when does Batista bust out the figure-4? It wasn't beautifully done, but it was definitely fun to see. Is that something he uses regularly now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomk Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 Nothing about that movie was good. Nothing. When the Day of Judgement arrives, St. Peter will use this as part of his criteria to determine where a soul goes. "Well, you did visit a bunch of sick children in the hospital, so that's obviously a boost in your favor. But... you were in Ready to Rumble... sorry, it's hellfire and damnation for you." Â It was a movie marketed to wrestling fans that portrayed wrestling fans as idiots. That's bad marketing. Â But Landau, Platt and Joe Pantoliano were all entertaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueminister Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Saying "Barton Fink" is about wrestling is stretching pretty hard. By the same standard you'd probably say it was a William Faulkner biopic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Morris Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 So I'm watching Monday Night Football and they are advertising a BowFlex Home Gym with a guy hawking it... a guy by the name of Bryan Alvarez. Â Don't tell me that's the same Alvarez behind Figure Four Weekly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 It's not. This Bryan Alvarez...shit, it's late and I've got nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eduardo Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Titanes en el Ring promoter/founder/star. Â Old Kurt Brown articles about Titanes: http://www.1wrestlinglegends.com/column/lucha-03.htm http://www.1wrestlinglegends.com/column/lucha-04.htm Thanks for posting these. That Martin Karadagian bio from the HOF issue was phenomenal, it's the best thing I've read in the Observer this year. Other than that website, is there any other place to get more of Kurt Brown's writing? Btw, Brown is scheduled to do an F4W daily tomorrow, which is really cool news since he was a great guest the last time he was on for lucha week. Â I love these short clips from Titanes en el Ring: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RJxSseC1G0 and this is by far the greatest entrance in pro wrestling history: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Kurt's blog: http://stantheembryo.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjh Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 I was listening to today's Wrestling Observer Radio today and someone asked a question about Shinya Hashimoto, where he stood in comparison with his peers Chono and Mutoh and whether he was an all time great. Dave's gut reaction was a bit disheartening saying he was close, borderline as to whether you would have to call him an all time great, before Bryan (of all people) reminded him he was a top draw. Dave though, after acknowledging he headlined a lot of Dome shows, went on a tangent saying that the three Musketeers were booked kind of as equals and interchangeably and put over Mutoh as the most spectacular worker of the three by far. Â Pretty sad, as Hashimoto was clearly the biggest star of the three (and one could argue was the biggest Japanese star of the 90s), pushed the hardest of the three overall and was the most consistent worker of the three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Childs Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 That's interesting as I think Hash would be the clear favorite among hardcore internet fans (who are really the only Americans debating '90s Japanese wrestling anyway.) I mean, if you did a best worker poll on this site, I suspect he'd beat his fellow Musketeers in a landslide. The "Lazy Mutoh" perception seems strong, and I've never seen anyone seriously pimp Chono as an all-time worker. Hash, by contrast, seems to have held up remarkably well since his heyday and is often cited as a master of big-match psychology. So I'd say Dave is out of step with his answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted September 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 It's not really that surprising coming from Dave. Hashimoto isn't really the type of wrestler Dave normally gets excited about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Iron Chad Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 It's not really that surprising coming from Dave. Hashimoto isn't really the type of wrestler Dave normally gets excited about. Read this as: Flabby wrestlers are judged much more harshly by Dave than bodybuilder/juice freak types. Â -Chad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slasher Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Yet wasn't Dave always on the WWF's case in the 80s for emphasizing the big chiseled bodies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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