NintendoLogic Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 I can't imagine Vince dying a natural death. They'll have to take him out like Vigo the Carpathian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Thread Killer Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 A lot of people call Vince McMahon a genius promoter and businessman, and for a long time I was one of those people. Even his biggest detractors in Pro Wrestling would begrudgingly give him credit for his promotional skills. (We won't mention Snake River Canyon, Sugar Ray/Donny Lalonde, the WBF, Ico-Pro and the XFL.) But to me, one of the things that made him a "genius" (if he really was one) was his ability to accurately assess his marketplace and provide a product that catered to the particular trend. (When he stuck to wrestling.) The 80's were all about Ronald Reagan and America #1, and Vince gave the fans Hulk Hogan waving the flag, and Nikolai Volkoff and The Iron Sheik on NBC. When the anti-hero became cool, he gave the fans "Attitude" and Stone Cold flipping everybody off. (In that case he was late to the party and had to catch up, but full credit to him for seeing the need to change and then doing it.) Now he seems to have become just a stubborn old man who either can't see what fans want (even when they make it blatantly obvious) or he just doesn't care. I loathe his "You don't tell me what you want, I tell you what you want" attitude. Even worse he has built up a corporate structure around himself with "creative" script writers who seem incapable of presenting a product that is in any way compelling. Even if he did die, I'm not sure that the system he has built since taking WWE public is capable of making changes. You'd almost have to tear the whole thing down and start from scratch, and I would doubt Stephanie, Shane (if he is back involved in the business end) or Triple H are willing or able to do that. That's what depresses me the most on current day WWE. Not only is it terrible, but it seems to be destined to stay that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted November 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2019 WWE SD is going to be a very interesting watch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted November 1, 2019 Report Share Posted November 1, 2019 Grumpy jetlagged Brock killing people for two hours works for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted November 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2019 Would UE sneaking up on Brock to set up part of a possible Survivor Series triple threat a bad idea? The true enigma is if Brock would be as willing to bump for these guys as he was for Balor and AJ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted November 1, 2019 Report Share Posted November 1, 2019 It would be a good idea if Brock's willing to play ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 Tuning into SD tonight out of morbid curiosity just to see how they handle the SaudiMania plane ride from hell and depleted roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 Well, replaying Blood Money is one way to fill the time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted November 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 It is convenient that Cain/Brock was 2 minutes, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 Brand split is already a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 Brock moving to Raw. That's how they fix the title situation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted November 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 Hey, they are making Rey the Universal Champ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 Oh god they are doing a Brock v McMahon family deal over this, aren't they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted November 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 Triple H was absent from Crown Jewel and suddenly the focus is on him? I suspect there is a COLLUSION Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 4 minutes ago, KawadaSmile said: Hey, they are making Rey the Universal Champ I'll believe that when I see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 Meanwhile, Fox execs are like "what the FUCK, Vince?". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted November 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 If Cain interferes and he goes on to feud with Brock without the title on the line... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMKK Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, sek69 said: Meanwhile, Fox execs are like "what the FUCK, Vince?". They'd literally been better off just burning a billion dollars at this point. No Brock but they got the hokey clown mask geek. What a deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted November 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 WWE would be batshit insane of just conning FOX. I can't imagine they didn't have this planned beforehand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted November 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 Cross has been training kick outs with Roman. Insane timing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMJ Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 Maybe FOX didn't want a more sports-based product and that was all just gossip? Whether FOX wanted more a realistic, sports-like production or not, though, its still undeniable that Brock Lesnar is a bigger star than Bray Wyatt and, if you're FOX, you'd want as many big stars as you could get. (Same as USA) And even though it is kinda silly to even have to say what we all know, if this was the longterm booking, the WWE really has no fucking clue what they're doing anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted November 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 it's shayna motherfucers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMKK Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 Seems like they've conned them multiple times on the rosters. The fact they had Ronda was supposedly a big part of the negotiations. Everyone and their dog knew that Brock was always slated to be a big part of the show and now he's switched. Charlotte was all over Fox promotional placements and she's on Raw. Becky got the big rub with The Rock on week one and she's on Raw too. All Fox has is a pretty cold Roman Reigns vs King fucking Corbin. But I don't think it's really a con, because there's no gain for WWE in pissing off Fox. It's just that they're in complete organisational disarray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted November 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 please put some RESPECK into Roman Reigns' name. warming him up would take two weeks (much like Bryan tbh) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted November 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 holy shit yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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