JHawk Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 Punk sure is heavily featured for a guy who everyone supposedly hates. Why does he even have a job if that's the case?Because too many people chant "CM Punk" for it to be a smark only thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomk Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 I think it was a bad career move for Flair to leave WWE in 1993 for WCW. When he left, he became hogan's bitch and he was never the same. He could have stayed in the WWE for at least another year and then retire. Flair was there for a while before Hogan showed up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingus Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 Flair even helped talk Hulk into joining up in the first place, iirc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 I'd say the money Flair drew as a result of the wrestling boom outweighed his lower placement on the card. You have to keep some things in perspective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdw Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 Warrior Wants Hogan Money & Hogan Schedule So Vince fired him. I'd say Davey deciding to distribute HGH and other shit in the WWF while Vince is, in a rare moment, serious about Drug Enforcement. But it only got Davey fired. He kept getting hired by WCW and the WWF for years after that, so it's not clear that it took a ton of money out of his pocket. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boondocks Kernoodle Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 I think it was a bad career move for Flair to leave WWE in 1993 for WCW. When he left, he became hogan's bitch and he was never the same. He could have stayed in the WWE for at least another year and then retire.Why would he retire? He's kept going for 14 years since then, he clearly didn't want to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingus Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 TNA Fires Good Workers So They Can Pay Nonworkers They just released Runt Dudley, Damaja, Doug Basham, Matt Bentley, and Jerry Lynn. Good thing Pacman is bringing in those massive ratings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 TNA Fires Good Workers So They Can Pay Nonworkers They just released Runt Dudley, Damaja, Doug Basham, Matt Bentley, and Jerry Lynn. Good thing Pacman is bringing in those massive ratings. Err. Also, not an individual career move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingus Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Well, maybe not, especially in Bentley's case. But, c'mon, the Lynn vs. Styles series? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Well, maybe not, especially in Bentley's case. But, c'mon, the Lynn vs. Styles series?Was awful. A bunch of sterile crap with lots of dumbassed Jerry Lynn missed shoulderblock -> legdrop spots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingus Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Well, we must disagree then. I doubt you'd find many workers who'd agree with you if you told them Lynn was a bad wrestler. DDP Doesn't Bump For Undertaker's Punches In A House Show Match And his burial ensued, continued, and lingers on to this day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 I doubt you'd find many workers who'd agree with you if you told them Lynn was a bad wrestler.You'd be surprised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingus Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Yeah, I would be. I remember watching one of those godawful WWA ppvs with a roomful of wrestlers, the one with Jarrett vs. Christopher as the main event, and the biggest couch pop of the night was when Lynn did a run-in. Various Wrestlers Move To Nashville In Order To Work For TNA Did NOT turn out well, for lots of people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.L.L. Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 I doubt you'd find many workers who'd agree with you if you told them Lynn was a bad wrestler. I'm glad we have other people in the biz who can form opinions on wrestlers for us so that we don't have to think ourselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smkelly Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Lynn is boring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjh Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 I'd say the money Flair drew as a result of the wrestling boom outweighed his lower placement on the card. You have to keep some things in perspective. Flair though was really underpaid by WCW, especially considering he was a great ratings draw for the company despite his lower placement on the card. I mean guys like Scott Norton and Stevie Ray were being paid more than him. I don't think moving to WCW in 1993 was a bad career move, but holding Eric Bischoff up at Halloween Havoc '94 for a new contract before doing the job for Hogan was a big mistake in the long term, because that's the incident that caused Bischoff to lose all his respect for Flair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 There were really three times they tried building around Flair in a top feud after Havoc '94: * The house show run with Randy Savage in early '96, which drew surprisingly well * The Bret Hart match at Souled Out '98, which drew surprisingly well * The Hulk Hogan match at SuperBrawl IX, which drew surprisingly well And yeah, he was also the only guy in WCW who could post competitive numbers against the WWF during their big 1998-1999 run. Considering all that, he was definitely underpaid. There were times when he was obviously really unmotivated and they were doing nothing with him except having him come out every week and dance with Debra, so he wasn't underpaid obviously at those times since he wasn't even doing anything. But he was definitely could have been used more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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