WWE Survivor Series - War Games - 11/24 - What Do You See?

[Timbo Slice]

That motherfucker is coming back tonight, isn’t he?

And I don’t mean Randall Keith. 

[Embrodak]

I would love if Punk came back, but I see zero reason why he would. WWE are hot as fuck for 2023 right now, they don’t need him.

[KawadaSmile]

Pretty much everyone is saying that no, that man will not appear tonight. Why would he? 

People may hijack this show based on wishful thinking

[sek69]

They apparently did the Orton reveal on Raw just so people would know not to expect Punk.

Also while yes, neither WWE or Punk have any real need (or want probably) to have him appear, both are petty AF enough to want to do it just to jab TK in the eye.  That's why I leave that 1% chance open that it could happen. 

[sek69]

Do we get a Regal appearance to give us a WAAAAAH GAAAMES for old times sake?

[KawadaSmile]

Maybe a coincidence, but I found that opening speech to be fairly reminiscent of the speeches used in Cult of Personality.

[C.S.]

Is it a hot take to say I hate modern NXT/WWE War Games matches?

The wrestlers kill themselves, but there's no real feeling of danger or stakes.

[Blehschmidt]

Much like the "What" chant, I really hope one day wrestling fans/crowds will get over the obsession with tables.

We've seen a million of the damn things broken since Sabu made it a trend nearly 30 years ago. It would be amazing to move on 

[KawadaSmile]

Holy shit Io

[Dav'oh]

"Fightful Select reports that these are the planned match times for tonight’s WWE Survivor Series: Wargames.

* Women’s WarGames Match: 35 Minutes.
* Intercontinental Title Match: 15 minutes.
* Dragon Lee vs. Santos Escobar: 12 minutes
* Women’s WWE Championship Match: 12 minutes.
* Men’s WarGames Match: 45 minutes."

[sek69]

Io Sky is the Kofi Kingston of these matches coming up with insane spots

[Blehschmidt]

1 minute ago, C.S. said:

Is it a hot take to say I hate modern NXT/WWE War Games matches?

The wrestlers kill themselves, but there's no real feeling of danger or stakes.

I don't know whether it's a hot take or not, but I absolutely agree with you. Much llke everything else in wrestling, they took War Games and WWE'd it. It's over produced, totally homogenized, and lacks everything that made the match memorable in the first place.

I know not all of the NWA/WCW War Games matches had the blood feud/grudge match vibe but when you watch 87, 89, 92, 94 and then compare it to this, it may as well not even be the same sport.

Those felt like gritty fights between men that wanted to kill each other. These feel like what they are, highly choreographed, highly scripted acrobatics that now pass for wrestling.

[flyonthewall2983]

Why not do a War Games match with Survivor Series rules, where it becomes an elimination tag match once everyone is inside.

[strobogo]

This match has not been good at all, but Io's jump was hilarious.

[KawadaSmile]

Dunno bubbas this has been some fun  stuff

[sek69]

The GOAT has returned (R Truth)

[sek69]

Bears, Niners, Cowboys, Packers? What is this terrible NFC bias

[KawadaSmile]

WWE doing this shit 100% on purpose. "Oh no Randy is not here oh nooo"

[KawadaSmile]

Miz vs Gunther fucking rocked I don't give a fuck Miz is one of the all time greats. Learn from him, fools

[sek69]

21 minutes ago, KawadaSmile said:

WWE doing this shit 100% on purpose. "Oh no Randy is not here oh nooo"

Mentioning Chris Jericho and then GUNTA winning with a Liontamer seems on purpose too

[sek69]

LOL at this crowd reacting to the mask ripping spot

[KawadaSmile]

Holy shit Rhea

[Blehschmidt]

To add to what I was saying earlier, I don't believe there has been a single one of these WWE/NXT War Games where they don't have every person or every other person bring some new variant of kendo stick/chair/trash can/table into the ring. 

They can't just let two rings surrounded by a cage be enough. Everything has to be an over the top, over produced spectacle. The concept of less is more is so lost on them it's unreal.

[KawadaSmile]

Randy is looking HUGE

[KawadaSmile]

LOOK IN MY EYES