fxnj Posted September 26, 2024 Report Share Posted September 26, 2024 This was pretty mid. I thought the first 2 eps covering the period from Vince buying the company up to around the steroids trial were the highlight because you got lots of unseen footage/photos and there was an attempt to provide some type of pushback to the WWE's narrative, often coming from the wrestlers themselves. Tony Atlas accusing Pat Patterson of sexual harassment right after hearing Vince swore up and down he was innocent stuck out to me. As it went on seemed like the editors ran out of time or money because it just became a straight puff piece with everyone playing it safe in their interviews. A massive example of that is the part covering the Triple H/Stephanie affair, where the role of Chyna in creating the initial storyline and effect it had on her is completely ignored. Even the parts covering Vince's departure feel tacked on and don't offer any new insight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmare007 Posted September 26, 2024 Report Share Posted September 26, 2024 Of the three I've watched, ep.3 is the best one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strobogo Posted September 26, 2024 Report Share Posted September 26, 2024 Lol at people finding out Bruce is the most pathetic jocksniffer to ever exist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted September 27, 2024 Report Share Posted September 27, 2024 No one at PWO, or lifelong wrestling fans in general, are going to learn anything new from this documentary. It has the same talking heads saying pretty much the same things they always do. Great footage though, and Tony Atlas has zero filter. 1 hour ago, strobogo said: Lol at people finding out Bruce is the most pathetic jocksniffer to ever exist Bruce Prichard's dentist has to wear a gas mask because Bruce's teeth and gums smell like Vince's asshole. With that said, I'll give Bruce the smallest bit of leeway here. His wife had a cancer diagnosis with a prognosis of four years. Because of Vince getting her the best medical care, she's still alive 20-something years later. So, for that reason, I can see why Bruce is blindly loyal. Granted, you can argue that it Vince did it for cynical business reasons to keep one of his valued lieutenants worry-free and working, and while there might be something to that, a woman's life was still saved in the process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmare007 Posted September 27, 2024 Report Share Posted September 27, 2024 Ep. 5 was so bizarre. They had something going the McMahon family stuff and then just drop if for close to 30 minutes and pick it back up for the last 10. And that half an hour in between was not worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted September 27, 2024 Report Share Posted September 27, 2024 Episode 1: people are stomping all over the Iranian flag. Episode 2: Hogan tears the Iraqi flag. While there is this huge elephant in the room, I feel that this documentary works in ways unforeseen or unintended. Just a very interesting look into American exceptionalism, predatory business culture, monopolies and other horrible things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alucard Posted September 27, 2024 Report Share Posted September 27, 2024 There were definitely some gems in there and learned a few new things at least. Steve Austin doesn't believe in CTE. Undertaker initially thinking "how can you take away the steel chair from our storytelling" after Benoit. Vince doesn't see where Undertaker was concussed at WM 30 and believes he was more in psychological trauma shock over the Streak being ended. Stephanie, in 2013, believing Mike Tyson hadn't been arrested for rape until after WM 14. Vince claiming no recollection of any lawsuit with Sable. Heyman's story of seeing a wild Vince/Shane disagreement over something Shane pitched, where Vince told Shane he'd have to kill him to do it and offers him the knife. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmare007 Posted September 27, 2024 Report Share Posted September 27, 2024 As with most of the series, episode 6 was a mixed bag. This whole thing would've been much, much better if it solely focused on Vince and didn't worry itself with telling 40 years of the history of WWE. Explaining concepts and key moments? of course, and they actually did an awesome job at that. But they were way too ambitious and try to fit in too much stuff that didn't really add anything of real value. Tony Atlas was the MVP of this. Meltzer came out looking really well too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert S Posted September 27, 2024 Report Share Posted September 27, 2024 Question is, how much "you know"s ended up on the cutting floor, probably enough for hours and hours. I have watched the first two episodes and am too a bit disappointed on how WWF/WWE centric there is. I realize that there is only so much they can do in 6 hours so you concentrate on what people will probably want to see the most, but there were no mentions at all of the name he lived by for maybe 20 years, North Carolina, everything he said in the Playboy interview or his early business failures like the Snake River Canyon jump. Besides a couple of pictures, there is also very little on the family side so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted September 28, 2024 Report Share Posted September 28, 2024 I was under the impression that this was a documentary about Vince McMahon & his lawsuit shit. My wife & I are through four episodes and it's just a fuckin' history of WWE rundown? Why the fuck are we talking about D-X & Monday Night Wars???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmare007 Posted September 28, 2024 Report Share Posted September 28, 2024 22 hours ago, Robert S said: Question is, how much "you know"s ended up on the cutting floor, probably enough for hours and hours. crazy how a good editor can make Dave sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedEagle Posted September 29, 2024 Report Share Posted September 29, 2024 5 hours ago, Coffey said: I was under the impression that this was a documentary about Vince McMahon & his lawsuit shit. My wife & I are through four episodes and it's just a fuckin' history of WWE rundown? Why the fuck are we talking about D-X & Monday Night Wars???? My wife generally loves documentaries so she was open to this but when I saw it was heavy on storyline stuff like that I knew it wasn't worth the effort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Jackson Posted October 6, 2024 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2024 What was the context of the clip where Vince says "come out here you rapist!"? (ep 4) Ever since I saw it I can't stop cracking up every time I think about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyonthewall2983 Posted October 6, 2024 Report Share Posted October 6, 2024 When Triple H “married” Steph at the drive through, I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Jackson Posted October 6, 2024 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2024 Yeah, that's what came to mind almost immediately after I posted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Jackson Posted October 7, 2024 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2024 Just finished. Bruce whining at the end was pathetic. But I guess in his mind Vince really is the greatest man who ever lived. Most of the series felt like a WWE history doc from one of their DVDs, but this was mostly for non wrestling, or lapsed, fans anyway. It's also the story of Vince without the true final chapter, so the end of the series just kinda trails off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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