sek69 Posted March 19 Author Report Share Posted March 19 Yeah, you can look at some people in NXT and see that they could use some more seasoning but I don't know what more Trick can do at this point. I also wonder about someone like Jacy Jane, who in all her time in NXT has gone from the Arn of one group to the Flair of another similar group. Instead of it coming off as a promotion of sorts it just looks like she's been treading water for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Thread Killer Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 1 hour ago, sek69 said: I also wonder about someone like Jacy Jane, who in all her time in NXT has gone from the Arn of one group to the Flair of another similar group. Instead of it coming off as a promotion of sorts it just looks like she's been treading water for years. I honestly think part of the problem is that NXT has a ridiculous amount of female talent. WWE could literally run a 2-3 hour weekly TV show using just their female talent and they would have more than enough women to fill the time. I really don’t think there is enough room on the main roster to accommodate the amount of talent that they have right now. Jordynne Grace, Stephanie Vaquer and Giulia could all also easily be on the Main Roster right now. There just aren’t enough spots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted March 20 Author Report Share Posted March 20 Stephanie Vaquer has come out and said when she signed they asked if she wanted to be on the main roster or NXT. She said the main roster initially but then realized it would probably be easier to be in NXT while adjusting to life in a new country and getting familiar with a new style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRH Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 For some reason I can see Lexis King being called up. I dont know what they could do with him though (Maybe put him in Judgement Day and have some second generation tag team thing with Dom). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted March 22 Author Report Share Posted March 22 I saw some people expecting Cena to come our with a switched up look to go along with his new heel status, which of course didn't happen. Naomi, on the other hand. My goodness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted March 22 Author Report Share Posted March 22 Seth coming out to confront the man who just admitted to trying to kill him dressed in what looked like quilted pajamas absolutely floored me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRH Posted March 23 Report Share Posted March 23 20 hours ago, sek69 said: I saw some people expecting Cena to come our with a switched up look to go along with his new heel status, which of course didn't happen. Naomi, on the other hand. My goodness. As I said on another board, the first thing that came to mind was Jason Sensation as Owen Hart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted March 23 Author Report Share Posted March 23 Watching Heyman during Roman's promo made me realize what an unforced error it is that WB never cast him as the Penguin in their cinematic Batman universe. He has the best "villain face" I've ever seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted March 23 Report Share Posted March 23 Charlotte ate Tiffany alive here. Even in split-screen interviews, she must pose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted March 23 Report Share Posted March 23 This vignette is... so perfect for 2025 WWE. And I'll leave it at that. 😇 (it's also incredibly terrible for reasons that should be obvious to anyone) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Thread Killer Posted March 23 Report Share Posted March 23 I actually watched SmackDown, but I skipped past that promo. Anything involving Charlotte since her comeback from injury has pretty much been grim death, and as much as I like Tiffany Stratton in the ring, I generally find her promos to be unremarkable at best. I am sure their actual match at Wrestlemania will be decent and it might even end up being really good, but I am opting out of the buildup to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMJ Posted March 23 Report Share Posted March 23 Awkward promo, awkward feud. The next big babyface in the Women's Division is Liv Morgan just as soon as they separate her from Rhea/Dom/Judgment Day, which I assume will be post-Mania. Just like with the men, the age of WWE being able to just choose someone and hope the fans get behind them is loooong over. Today's fans root for the guys and gals that meet a few criteria: - Established catchphrases/personas (usually developed as heels) that become fun for the audience to participate with - History of being on TV for a long time, putting work in, "deserving" a big push - Online/"smart" fans believing they are being "held down" - Over huge as heels, get heat, become "villains you love to hate" - Noticeable in-ring improvement (usually a criticism/opinion made most towards women who fans believed "couldn't wrestle" when they were called up) Liv Morgan is That Girl. She's also been posting lots of pictures of some of the gnarly injuries she's sustained, which have inevitably led to comments and re-tweets with people basically saying that she's the hardest-working woman on the roster. Its right out of the Foley playbook. Its hard to boo a performer who is punishing herself nightly for our enjoyment. Post-Mania, if they run Charlotte/Liv on SmackDown, Liv is going to have huge crowd support. Meanwhile, Tiff, who still has plenty of years to improve and establish herself, was probably too new to really get that grassroots support. Again, look at the criteria above. She doesn't check off many of the boxes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 Charlotte might be a reverse Phoenix Ikki or some shit. Every time she returns, she's worse and less interesting than before. I honestly cannot remember a single storyline she had in which the title wasn't involved, and when you have 10+ years of that, it becomes absurdly stale - not to mention she's got some of the most egregious instances of unprofessional conduct of the last few years, one of them putting her opponent, Kairi, in danger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Thread Killer Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 El Grande Americano es Numero Uno. Muy Bueno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbo Slice Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 That shit is as old as it gets but is still amusing. Just wish he'd go Inside Baseball and do the Jerry Estrada bump or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted March 25 Author Report Share Posted March 25 Usually when they do this "everyone knows who's under the mask" bit it's the babyface who lost a loser leaves town match. like Stagger Lee or the Yellow Dog. Having the twist be it's all the babyfaces who are all "come on, we know who this really is" is at least something different. Also anything that gets us Chad Gable vs Dragon Lee is golden in my book Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Thread Killer Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 2 hours ago, sek69 said: Also anything that gets us Chad Gable vs Dragon Lee is golden in my book Um, I don’t know what you’re talking about? Chad Gable couldn’t wrestle, he was sick. He had a Doctor’s note. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDuke Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 I like the Captain America ring gear. I hope this is a long term gimmick and is not just going to be droppee after Wrestlemania. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted March 31 Author Report Share Posted March 31 Cena and Cody throwing verbal bombs leading to Cena getting laid out is what this angle should have been two weeks ago but we got there eventually. Jey having to watch Gunther murder his brother while not being able to do anything about it is gonna lead to the roof being blown off the stadium when he wins the title. Also I still don't get the booking for the women's world title match. They've had both Bianca and Rhea acting like assholes and in the process they fucked around and turned Iyo into a massive babyface. I don't think that was the plan, so what are we doing here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted April 1 Report Share Posted April 1 I don't think anyone had "Gunther is going to do some of the best character work of his career on a WWE Title feud against Jey Uso" on their cards when he jumped to the main roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strobogo Posted April 1 Report Share Posted April 1 It's funny Cena did his patented "fine speech" response to a promo as a heel and it's exactly the same thing he did as a face for so many years just without saying "fine speech" ahead of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strobogo Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 The most interesting thing about Cody as the mega face of WWE is that him leaving and starting AEW is absolutely integral to his character and can't be avoided and shouldn't be avoided, which is so completely opposite of any mega face they've ever done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 Remember the discourse about Ricky Starks showing up in WWE and immediately becoming a huge-ass star because of his friendship with Cody ? Penta & Rey Fénix show up straight into the main roster, will probably be involved at Mania in a multi-men match for the IC title (well, Penta at the very least). Get to keep their names too. Meanwhile, Ricky gets a stupid last name and is feuding with Shawn Spears and Ethan Page (who both kept their name too) over a secondary title in NXT. (funny how the defense is always "gotta learn the WWE style", like it was an actual thing. But luchadors like Penta & Fénix don't apparently) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blehschmidt Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 Speaking of NXT, so we had Stephanie Vaquer win both women's titles, then they said she was going to defend them both, then last week she did defend them both, then this week they decided she needed to vacate the North American title. I understand they needed to get the belt off of Giulia because she is hurt. I understand Stephanie was the best choice. But for fucks sake, this company has to overcomplicate everything. If they were going to vacate, why not do it immediately? Why not have her lose in a valiant effort last week when she'd already wrestled once? Because of course we have to build a multi-person ladder match instead of doing the sensible thing! Also, am I the only one confused by Zaria? She's not good in the ring, doesn't talk well, and her My Little Pony Beyond Thunderdome gimmick isn't all that intimidating. Maybe I'm just old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMJ Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 5 hours ago, El-P said: Remember the discourse about Ricky Starks showing up in WWE and immediately becoming a huge-ass star because of his friendship with Cody ? Penta & Rey Fénix show up straight into the main roster, will probably be involved at Mania in a multi-men match for the IC title (well, Penta at the very least). Get to keep their names too. Meanwhile, Ricky gets a stupid last name and is feuding with Shawn Spears and Ethan Page (who both kept their name too) over a secondary title in NXT. (funny how the defense is always "gotta learn the WWE style", like it was an actual thing. But luchadors like Penta & Fénix don't apparently) My assumption would be that Penta, being 5 years older and having a much longer resume than Ricky Starks is one reason. The other reason is because I suspect Penta and Fenix were a package deal and that comes with some added leverage and motivation to push Penta right out of the gate. I'll also make another assumption - Penta and Rey wanted to go to the main roster for main roster money. Unlike Starks, who was kinda "WWE or Bust" at this point, I assume the Lucha Bros could've freelanced around the world and been in relatively high demand in Mexico, Japan, UK, Australia (?)...and then also probably still signed with TNA. If the WWE wanted them, with the exclusivity the WWE demands, they had to make it worth it. I don't think Starks had the same leverage in that sense either. Finally, I also think that because Starks has that reputation - at least online - of being "Cody's guy," I'm guessing there was some discussion about why going to NXT for a little bit would maybe get some of that supposed "heat" off him and allow him to prove he's not a prima donna or whatever the reputation from leaving AEW was. Yes, Cody might be his buddy and Punk might be his buddy, but its still pro-wrestling and there will always be backstage politics where, if the wind blows a certain way, you can find yourself benched. Going to NXT, working for (and getting along with) Shawn, showing that you don't see going to NXT as an insult or "step down," is a smart move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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