C.S. Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 3 hours ago, KingBoggs33 said: I’ve had this theory and I stand by it that I think Kane saw this and knows this and just works everyone by being a republican. If that's the case, he's working everyone in his book too - where he admitted to being a Rand Paul acolyte and praised the Republican Party for giving them a space to fit in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strobogo Posted January 8 Report Share Posted January 8 Taker has way more respect within the industry and WWE lore than Hogan, he's also much lower key with his Trump bullshit (despite the podcast with Trump) than Hogan because he isn't doing the RNC and selling Trump merch. Taker endorsing Trump on a podcast not many people listen to vs Hogan doing multiple public rallies with Trump and wearing Trump merch all the time, plus with Hogan's history of being a shithead according to pretty much everyone that's ever worked with him in the industry and then his whole racist thing, are just different things. I don't think it's really that much cognitive dissonance because Hogan has had that kind of mostly fuck you reaction for more than a decade now even before the full on Trumper shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strobogo Posted January 8 Report Share Posted January 8 Mind you, I also think fuck Taker (and extra fuck Kane), but it isn't some kind of "how could the crowd not react the same to Taker as to Hoga" thing that is totally baffling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alucard Posted January 8 Report Share Posted January 8 13 hours ago, KingBoggs33 said: If Hogan was smart he would have come out as Hollywood Hogan and just cut a heel promo about taking over with Trump. That would have been the biggest and best heel promo of all time. Crossed my mind too when the boos began, wondering what if he just went full on Hollywood and heeled it up. Put him in the Rumble next year in Saudi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedEagle Posted January 8 Report Share Posted January 8 Does the Pillman family have evidence that Michaels killed Brian? Is there any other reason Lexis King is employed and used like this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 After trying my hands on that NXT show, I realize that I'm way too hard on AEW. And that despite lots of great and promising talent (and some... not so good), I really don't miss anything not watching any WWE when my wrestling brain is already saturated watching a bunch of other stuff. And damn, the announcing is *godawful*. I have no idea how people even handle this shit. (and that's after I was rather annoyed by Matt Menard screaming banalities for two hours on Dynamite) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blehschmidt Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 3 hours ago, El-P said: And damn, the announcing is *godawful*. I have no idea how people even handle this shit. (and that's after I was rather annoyed by Matt Menard screaming banalities for two hours on Dynamite) Booker T is atrocious. He is constantly yelling, every 3rd sentence is "Awwwww Yeah Man", and a good part of the rest is nonsense. I respect the guy and his career, but he is a fucking terrible commentator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strobogo Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 Both NXT and TNA are the same THIS IS TOO BUSY AND LOUD shit that makes me feel like an old man, but anytime I've tried to watch NXT 2.0 era is just please be quiet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Pete Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 If they had have made one small tweak, I think that main event could have been better. Instead of having Cody enter a blind rage and bail on the match you could have had Owens physically interfere and taken it from there. Unless they plan on using this to justify Jimmy Uso turning on Cody, the route they went down made Cody look like an idiot. The only reason they seemingly did it was to have both Cody and Owens go through the table at the end. Stratton is a quality prospect but I don't think she was ready for the championship and it made for an awkward promo where she was trying to get her character over, while putting over her victory while also trying to get heat. That's my main issue with the Money in the Bank cash-in, it's a short-cut that gets a pop but then you have to build the champion up mid-reign and the table is rarely set for them. I hope they build on LA Knight vs. Jacob Fatu. It seems like without Roman Reigns, Randy Orton & AJ Styles the show is really low on star power and LA really ought to be mixing it up with main eventers and they clearly have big plans for Fatu. I'd like to see Nakamura mixing it up with Jimmy Uso and Carmelo Hayes in the interim. I thought both Los Garza and the Motor City Machine Guns had good outings. The only knock on MCMG is that it seemed like they had to rush into the finish so you had this awkward spot where Waller takes Sabin out with a side-kick only for Sabin to virtually no-sell it. I'd like to see these two teams put on a quality match next week and to see a bigger emphasis on the tag division. That's always the one match you can get away with having a ton of action but it seems like even under Hunter the division gets lost in the shuffle. Bizarre considering it was one of the strengths of his NXT run. I do think it's time for Austin Theory and Grayson Waller to do something different. I think they're weasel gimmick can be easily filled by Pretty Deadly and they ought to be doing something more pivotal on the show. I think they have a higher ceiling than being a mid-card generic heel act. I'd use them to help hype up the return to John Cena and you could easily do something there that benefits both parties. Theory is still a prospect and somebody I'd try to feature in the ring against the likes of Andrade, Santos Escobar and the like. It just seems between Vince and Hunter they can never get it just right - it's either too much or not enough. I'd keep Michin and Chelsea Green against one another, especially since the women's title is up in the air. I think building that rivalry is important and both women are familiar enough with one another they can fill that time. I do think they need to add another person into the equation and I just wonder if Wendy Choo would be a good fit? She's been on NXT forever and I think the dynamic is there as well. Either that or Jordynne Grace would be my pick to help take the rivalry to the next level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 https://x.com/WWEShop/status/1878839229566054623 I'll admit, that's a pretty cool shirt. Remember, the key to a good wrestling shirt is that it not look like a wrestling shirt. That looks like it could be merch for a death metal band (which, granted, is probably a lateral move in terms of social acceptability). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Thread Killer Posted January 14 Report Share Posted January 14 There were a couple of rough spots there, but overall, I think they did a great job of debuting Penta. He definitely came off as a star. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strobogo Posted January 14 Report Share Posted January 14 6 hours ago, NintendoLogic said: https://x.com/WWEShop/status/1878839229566054623 I'll admit, that's a pretty cool shirt. Remember, the key to a good wrestling shirt is that it not look like a wrestling shirt. That looks like it could be merch for a death metal band (which, granted, is probably a lateral move in terms of social acceptability). Luckily post COVID, there are absolutely no rules for dressing in public. Doesn't matter how tacky or lame your fit is, what the actual content is, no one gives a shit anymore, just be comfortable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Thread Killer Posted January 14 Report Share Posted January 14 5 minutes ago, strobogo said: Luckily post COVID, there are absolutely no rules for dressing in public. Doesn't matter how tacky or lame your fit is, what the actual content is, no one gives a shit anymore, just be comfortable. That might explain that outfit Nia Jax was wearing tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted January 14 Author Report Share Posted January 14 I was pleasantly surprised how quickly Penta got over, and I assume that Rey Fenix will be joining him as soon as contractually possible. Also it's wild to hear AAA get namedropped on WWE TV in 2025/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted January 14 Author Report Share Posted January 14 Wow, this is a pretty shitty thing to do to the guy if that's what happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted January 14 Report Share Posted January 14 48 minutes ago, sek69 said: I was pleasantly surprised how quickly Penta got over, and I assume that Rey Fenix will be joining him as soon as contractually possible. Also it's wild to hear AAA get namedropped on WWE TV in 2025/ WWE made Penta seem like more of a big deal in one night than AEW was able to do in five years. Fenix must be chomping at the bit to join him. I hope neither of them are sucked into the LWO vortex though. 14 minutes ago, sek69 said: Wow, this is a pretty shitty thing to do to the guy if that's what happened. Graves sounds like a whiny bitch in that tweet - and it's not the first time he's boarded the WAHbulance ("the first rule of punk rock") - but I'm hoping it's a work. He was cleared to resume in-ring action a while ago. A Corey vs. Pat match at WrestleMania wouldn't be the worst attraction in the world. Vastly preferable to doing anything with Vince McMahon like they did a couple of years back. I think his first match back, though - if it happens - should be in NXT. That's where his career ended, and it would make sense why he's there now. Otherwise, as long as he's getting the same pay, being able to work Florida shows almost exclusively seems like a win-win to me. Travel sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Pete Posted January 14 Report Share Posted January 14 I was surprised that the Penta/Gable match was as competitive as it was. I was expecting it to be a pure Penta showcase where he hits the Tope Con Hilo and and finishes Gable off with a Canadian Destroyer but Gable controlled a lot of the action. It would have made for a better match if Gable had have been booked like a star prior to ala Kurt Angle but maybe that's forthcoming. After all they did have him go out and promise he'll win a singles title in 2025. With Fenix still awhile away, I'd be looking to capitilise on the Penta run and give him a singles push. I'd like to see him mixing it up with the Judgment Day and in the thick of that IC division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted January 14 Author Report Share Posted January 14 25 minutes ago, C.S. said: Otherwise, as long as he's getting the same pay, being able to work Florida shows almost exclusively seems like a win-win to me. Travel sucks. This is pretty much the pro wres equivalent of getting sent to the minors, and if it isn't some kind of storyline going from calling Wrestlemanias to calling matches in front of a couple hundred folks on a campus in Florida because your boss is a mark for celebrity commentators has to sting a little. I'm torn though. Part of me hopes it is a work so he doesn't seem like such a whiny baby, but if it is I don't really care to see him wrestling since he was becoming one of my favorite announcers in terms of how seemed like he was really hitting his stride. If it's just something he wants to do because he didn't get to end his in ring career on his terms, I get it, but it's not something anyone is really hankering to see. I will say I enjoyed how half his commentary on NXT was asking Booker wtf he just said. At one point he seemed legit exasperated and was like "you have to deal with this every week?" to Vic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted January 14 Report Share Posted January 14 3 hours ago, C.S. said: WWE made Penta seem like more of a big deal in one night than AEW was able to do in five years. No. Simply jumping from AEW to a red hot WWE, which is a much bigger promotion anyway, makes Penta seem like more of a big deal. Let's not pretend the Lucha Brothers were not presented as big time stars the first (and best) years of the company. Also, there's a reason why Penta was never pushed as a single star, he said it countless times : he did not want it, he really only wanted to tag with his brother. Same thing will happen when Ricky Starks jumps. By sheer scale effect, and the fact you're jumping from one place to another (and to the bigger and hotter place), you de facto become a bigger deal (unless WWE treats you like an afterthought of course, but they would be stupid to do so). What they do after that point is another matter, although Ricky Starks always struck me as more of a WWE type guy anyway (that being said, now that Rock is back, it may be tricky because he always had that second rate Rock thing to him). And all of that, despite having some generic as fuck theme song too. Anywoo. It was the right move for Penta. He's 39. I'm guessing in current WWE he can spam taunt to death like the other guy says "Yeah !" a lot and that would be enough anyway. Fénix will be another matter though. They have done jackshit with Dragon Lee (and before someone goes "but AEW", yeah, yeah, AEW's booking of Komander and Beast Mortos is depressing as well). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted January 14 Report Share Posted January 14 The whole Penta thing made me think about someone else, and it's not even speculation because there's no word of contracts ending and whatnot. But Britt Baker has vanished again from AEW TV. And you know what, if she showed up at the Rumble, she also would get a crazy-ass reaction, because like Penta, she's an AEW original (and let's not kid ourselves, it plays a big part too in why Penta jumping is presented as a big deal). Also, she appeared not long ago in a DDP video, and it really seems her body is kinda thrashed, sadly. In WWE she could spam DMD (likewise Penta spamming Cero Miedo), do a bunch of superkicks and sling blades (likewise Penta) and do her submission (likewise Penta in LU) and get away with it. She's someone who would probably benefit a lot from jumping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted January 14 Report Share Posted January 14 4 hours ago, El-P said: The whole Penta thing made me think about someone else, and it's not even speculation because there's no word of contracts ending and whatnot. But Britt Baker has vanished again from AEW TV. And you know what, if she showed up at the Rumble, she also would get a crazy-ass reaction, because like Penta, she's an AEW original (and let's not kid ourselves, it plays a big part too in why Penta jumping is presented as a big deal). Also, she appeared not long ago in a DDP video, and it really seems her body is kinda thrashed, sadly. In WWE she could spam DMD (likewise Penta spamming Cero Miedo), do a bunch of superkicks and sling blades (likewise Penta) and do her submission (likewise Penta in LU) and get away with it. She's someone who would probably benefit a lot from jumping. The thing with Britt is that I can see her working well with Nia as her muscle, but other than that... I just don't see her doing anything better than Chelsea, for instance. I also don't want to imagine Baker and Flair butting heads and leading to years of discourse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted January 14 Report Share Posted January 14 A Britt/Charlotte feud must happen. It has the potential to make Bret/Shawn in 1997 look like the Get Along Gang. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted January 14 Report Share Posted January 14 That would be nothing though in comparison with.... ...Tessa Blanchard in WWE. Come on. You know if she does one year or two in TNA and it goes ok, she's so getting there. I don't think AEW would bring her in, for better or worse. But WWE ? They would not even blink. And then let the "fun" begin. And speaking of TNA, JBL is announced on RAW next week. So after showing up in TNA and crapping up the main event PPV matches with an angle that has made no sense, was never explained nor developed on TV, he's back in WWE ? They aren't gonna run a TNA angle on RAW, so my best guess is that the entire TNA stuff was just basic nonsense. Then again, maybe he can fuck Joe Hendry on Sunday (which would be hilariously TNA), enter the Rumble and then get eliminated from the Rumble by Joe Hendry. Hendry is getting poached anyway in a few months, so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted Tuesday at 09:12 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 09:12 PM https://x.com/WWEGraves/status/1879161902372401621 This would normally be an angle alert, but PWInsider is reporting he won't be on the show and was spotted at the airport leaving Orlando. Meltzer is speculating he's trying to do a Pillman blurring of the lines deal. For fuck's sake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted Tuesday at 09:29 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 09:29 PM 🙄 Yeah. I'm way too hard on AEW. Way too hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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