Hulk Hogan Dies At 71

[El-P]

5 minutes ago, sek69 said:

The craziest part is that it wasn't even necessary to do that either. Her music, while it honestly wasn't terrible, was about a decade behind the times of what was popular so it was going to be a case of a problem solving itself sooner than later. It wasn't like he was snuffing out a potential Taylor Swift in the making. 

The fact he passed on the infamous letter at Christmas is legit sociopathic behaviour. Who would do such a thing ? 

Now Bubba (the Love Sponge, not the other grifter) apparently said it was to put money on Paul Wight as a boxer project or something (a Bischoff idea no doubt), but the chronology don't add up. So much crazy shit already uncovered and probably more to come (the Scientology stuff ?).

[David Mantell]

30 minutes ago, El-P said:

The Corny idiotic "arguments" about AEW were shit that were all over the place 6 years ago. They were stupid then, they are absurdly idiotic now considering the history of AEW thus far, both in term of impact on the business for the workers, ridiculous quality of shows and just plain business standpoint.

Well you're quite right about the quality of the shows being ridiculous.  The impact for the workers is that there's a millionaire money-mark in town- ATM!!!. The latter point also explains AEW's survival despite its plummeting viewing figures.

30 minutes ago, El-P said:

As far as the rest goes, yeah, SMW was marketed as "pro-wrestling as it used to be" back in fucking 1992, so that's how stuck in the past Corny was already then. And the irony is that as much as he paints himself as progressive, he's basically acting in the pro-wrestling landscape like the guys he despises politically. There you go.

I dispute the existence of any causal link between views on politics and views on wrestling. Otherwise where else do we take this?  Is there a correlation between, say  Progressive Politics and Progressive Rock?  Is it Left Wing to like Emerson Lake & Palmer, Yes circa Tales Of Topographic Oceans and post-Barrett Pink Floyd? And is it therefore Right Wing to like Marc Bolan & T.Rex, Roxy Music and the New York Dolls?

[C.S.]

20 hours ago, sek69 said:

He also more than once implied Kenny is a pedo due to his involvement with women's wrestling in Japan. 

Let's call this for what it is: Pure and unadulterated homophobia, which he's conflating with children like so many from his generation grossly have. He also calls Kenny Omega "Twinkle Toes" - another obvious gay reference and slur - just in case anyone needs further proof.

No, we don't know for sure that Kenny is gay or bi. But being in a team called The Golden Lovers and appearing an experimental Guy Maddin short film called "Sissy Boy Slap Party" certainly lends credence to that impression. It makes no difference to me either way.

Cornette is absolutely toxic, vile, and a complete embarrassment to the industry he purports to love so much. He's far from alone in that, of course. He's far from the worst offender, of course. But that doesn't excuse his bullshit either. 

Whenever one of Corny's fans use one of his dumb podcast catchphrases, I know I'm dealing with a brainless amoeba who should be lobotomized on the spot.

So yeah, fuck Corny and fuck his sewer-dwelling mouth-breather fans.  

[David Mantell]

2 hours ago, C.S. said:

Let's call this for what it is: Pure and unadulterated homophobia, which he's conflating with children like so many from his generation grossly have. He also calls Kenny Omega "Twinkle Toes" - another obvious gay reference and slur - just in case anyone needs further proof.

No, we don't know for sure that Kenny is gay or bi. But being in a team called The Golden Lovers and appearing an experimental Guy Maddin short film called "Sissy Boy Slap Party" certainly lends credence to that impression. It makes no difference to me either way.

Cornette is absolutely toxic, vile, and a complete embarrassment to the industry he purports to love so much. He's far from alone in that, of course. He's far from the worst offender, of course. But that doesn't excuse his bullshit either. 

Whenever one of Corny's fans use one of his dumb podcast catchphrases, I know I'm dealing with a brainless amoeba who should be lobotomized on the spot.

So yeah, fuck Corny and fuck his sewer-dwelling mouth-breather fans.  

Cornette's criticism of Kenny Omega have nothing to do with homophobia.

His point is that

(1) his promo style is ridiculously hammed up (hence "Kenny Olivier") 

(2) the match with the little girl made a mockery of professional wrestling and was therefore an abomination.

Quite apart from anything else, these are points that any LBGTQETC person might reasonably agree with.

[El-P]

4 hours ago, C.S. said:

Let's call this for what it is: Pure and unadulterated homophobia, which he's conflating with children like so many from his generation grossly have. He also calls Kenny Omega "Twinkle Toes" - another obvious gay reference and slur - just in case anyone needs further proof.

(...)

So yeah, fuck Corny and fuck his sewer-dwelling mouth-breather fans.  

This.

[David Mantell]

I've seen a couple of Kenny Omega's promos, as many as I  could manage. They are lousy overblown affairs. Does that make me homophobic?

[C.S.]

10 hours ago, David Mantell said:

Cornette's criticism of Kenny Omega have nothing to do with homophobia.

So "Twinkle Toes" isn't a homophobic slur?

[Blehschmidt]

Can this guy please go back to making 72 posts a day about French and British wrestling that I can ignore, instead of showing his ignorance in threads I actually have interest in reading the discourse in?

[JRH]

In one of Hogan's final interviews, he actually put over Toni Storm:

https://sports.yahoo.com/article/hulk-hogan-really-likes-toni-003620291.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAFuF-xaFByedFK1kXY-DKOZKL1yE8m5MixnqR22-jD1ENdocu17o1exCFFP-BNGeRiEV5Zi-tNFewskB5Fu0qYIDGtGMabGNWiuZz8ygDycaf_haufGuNg8Es_sKAivyTSm1t0TYhnx41lr_uDSrcZFJmfFrAWoN9u22EIJsx3AI

[PeteF3]

7 hours ago, David Mantell said:

I've seen a couple of Kenny Omega's promos, as many as I  could manage. They are lousy overblown affairs. Does that make me homophobic?

No. Anymore than criticizing the comedy of Suzy Izzard or Julian Clary isn't homophobic. It's when you break out namecalling that has nothing to do with anything besides their sexuality that it's a problem.

[WingedEagle]

1 hour ago, Blehschmidt said:

Can this guy please go back to making 72 posts a day about French and British wrestling that I can ignore, instead of showing his ignorance in threads I actually have interest in reading the discourse in?

That got a pop. Those threads went from a fun resource into a family text chain you can't unsubscribe from.

[The Thread Killer]

Ugh, didn’t we already beat this topic to death in the Cornette Podcast thread, and the “Cancellation of Jim Cornette” thread, and the NWA Power thread?

[El-P]

1 hour ago, WingedEagle said:

That got a pop. Those threads went from a fun resource into a family text chain you can't unsubscribe from.

😂

One hell of a 1-2 punch these two posts.

[David Mantell]

12 hours ago, C.S. said:

So "Twinkle Toes" isn't a homophobic slur?

It refers to Omega's unrealistic style of work

12 hours ago, Blehschmidt said:

showing his ignorance

A bit rich (unless you actually tune in to Corny).

[David Mantell]

10 hours ago, The Thread Killer said:

Ugh, didn’t we already beat this topic to death in the Cornette Podcast thread, and the “Cancellation of Jim Cornette” thread, and the NWA Power thread?

*Shrug* all I did was post a video then all hell broke loose.

But yeah, I'm for getting back on topic -Hogan being dead.

This was his funeral:

Some unintentional humour from the AI commentary.  Not sure either how many "little Hulkamaniacs" are 60 in 2025.

 

[sek69]

As someone who was 6 years old when Hulk first won the belt, most of the first generation little Hulksters are in their mid to late 40s now. I was always under the spell of Macho Madness myself, but I still remember one of my classmates in grade school showing up one day with a HULKAMANIA shirt autographed by the man himself (there was a house show at the Igloo that weekend) and he was royalty for the day. 

[David Mantell]

38 minutes ago, sek69 said:

As someone who was 6 years old when Hulk first won the belt, most of the first generation little Hulksters are in their mid to late 40s now. I was always under the spell of Macho Madness myself, but I still remember one of my classmates in grade school showing up one day with a HULKAMANIA shirt autographed by the man himself (there was a house show at the Igloo that weekend) and he was royalty for the day. 

Yes, 60 year olds would already have been 16 in 1981 when Hogan went babyface in the AWA.

I'm 51 and was 12  going on 13 when I first saw Hogan (Jan 87, the MSG lumberjack match Vs Savage from 9 months earlier).  Like I think I've already said. I just thought he was an American version of Big Daddy. 

[ohtani's jacket]

Hogan was off making a movie when I began watching wrestling. Macho was the guy for the first few weeks that I watched it. I vividly remember the angle where they reintroduced Hogan. This was right before SummerSlam '88. I remember DiBiase saying that Hogan had crawled out from under the rock he was hiding under. I missed out on WrestleMania III and The Main Event and didn't watch them, or WrestleMania IV, until sometime later. I was into the Mega Powers, though, and the absolute peak of wrestling in my country was the Mega Powers exploding and the lead-in to WrestleMania V. I kind of fell into wrestling and comics around the same time. I think wrestling came first and then comics, but that was a formative year. 

 

[ohtani's jacket]

I suppose, in many ways, I wouldn't have become a wrestling fan without Hogan. Territorial wrestling had died out in New Zealand when I was a small child and was no longer on television. The WWF became hot in Australia before New Zealand. I remember I had an uncle who lived in Australia who came back to NZ for the first time in like 15 years, and we were sitting in my grandmother's living room on the night he returned and he wanted to watch two things, Married with Children and WWF Superstars. That was the first time I saw wrestling. I clearly remember watching Hacksaw Jim Duggan hit Andre the Giant with his 2x4 on the episode I watched. Then it blew up at school and was massive for about a year until Ninja Turtles took off. We had the Apter mags and various non-WWF wrestling tapes, but I don't believe I would have been exposed to wrestling if not for Hogan. Folks always talk about the WWF going national. They actually went global.