NotJayTabb Posted Saturday at 03:48 PM Posted Saturday at 03:48 PM Going to wear my "The Barbarian high voter" badge with pride. Unless I've missed him, Hallowicked hasn't dropped yet, so he's either got a lot of little votes, or someone has voted him pretty highly. Either way, that's awesome
Stephen- Posted Saturday at 05:24 PM Posted Saturday at 05:24 PM Jim Brunzell off the board already is unfortunate. I didn’t vote for him, heck only two of us did, but he would have been in a 250 and probably a 200 of mine. Was a great all rounder babyface in the High Flyers, often doing the heavy lifting to cover for the much lesser Greg Gagne. High Flyers vs Bock and Stevens eternally great.
highflyflow Posted Saturday at 06:29 PM Posted Saturday at 06:29 PM 4 hours ago, ohtani's jacket said: Javier Cruz' drop off from #120 in 2006 is huge. I think we were watching a lot of 1990 EMLL at the time and he played a prominent role that year. Good worker for sure, probably not top 100 but much higher than his ranking would suggest
HeadCheese Posted Saturday at 06:33 PM Posted Saturday at 06:33 PM Suprised my only High Vote is Rene Ben Chemoul, I think. Really Suprised I'm not the Andreza Giant Panda high vote.
Boss Rock Posted Saturday at 06:33 PM Posted Saturday at 06:33 PM I didn't vote for him, but the Fabulous Ones were a fun discovery for me a few years ago so it's a bit of a shame Keirn finished so low.
Garbage Posted Saturday at 10:28 PM Posted Saturday at 10:28 PM I assumed Brunzell and especially Keirn would have finished higher too, maybe the territories guys are even more hurt than I thought. Glad Tony Anthony, SUWA, Akira Nogami and Todd Morton got some votes. Someone needs to find a source for that XCW indy that Morton was wrestling in in the late 2000s that the Segunda Caida guys were talking up at the time. I've heard a decent bit about Ray Gonzales this past year (well, relative to every other year of my life) and the curiosity bug has hit me.
El-P Posted Saturday at 10:50 PM Posted Saturday at 10:50 PM So, some people actually voted for Joey Ryan, Alberto del Rio and Micheal Elgin. In 2026. *cough* X ex-Twitter *cough*
KB8 Posted Saturday at 10:53 PM Posted Saturday at 10:53 PM 12 hours ago, club said: A top-tier shithouse. Nominated him, then didn't vote for him. Glad someone else did. I went to school with a Kincaid and he was a wee prick as well so maybe I should just watch all the Johnny Kincaid. Some pretty surprising names dropping now! Spoiler #821 Haruka Eigen I think the only Eigen I've seen is comedy match Eigen, which to be fair is usually a pretty fun time. Do we have much peak Eigen worth checking out? #820 Bobby Fulton The Fulton/Rogers Fantastics are one of the best teams ever and Bobby Fulton is not Tommy Rogers but also pretty well holds up his end of things. There's some fun SMW-era Fulton with the new Fantastics against the Heavenly Bodies. I probably couldn't come up with 819 wrestlers I think are better than Bobby Fulton, but maybe 619. A different project, perhaps. #819 Danny Spivey A decently fun Hansen partner. There was one match where he flung a chair at Misawa and got killed. #817 Ray González I genuinely don't know if I've seen a Ray Gonzalez match. I surely must've, but I can't say with confidence. #817 Joe Malenko Feel good about calling him the second best Malenko. With more Boris footage he could be third. Cool pick (that's not sarcasm, btw). #816 Tessa Blanchard Couldn't comment. Probably worth watching if she takes after her old man. #815 Sandokán I should watch the Panama stuff. #814 Koichiro Kimura Had several RINGS fights that weren't very good and one against Grom Zaza that went 26 minutes but felt like 56. Can only assume he got better. #813 Lance Archer That Adam Page match was alright. #812 Yuzuki Aikawa Not a clue. #811 Dalibar Singh First "I should watch the WoS guys" comment of this batch. #810 René Ben Chemoul I've seen one Chemoul match but it was enough to convince me that I need to see a bunch more. #809 Dr. Adolf Kaiser I've seen one Kaiser match and it was enough to convince me that this is a slam dunk pick. #808 Marcela I do not know who this is. #807 Todd Morton Great puncher so good pick. #806 Anton Tejero Tejero is close to the top of the list of wrestlers I want to see every piece of footage we have available from them. #805 Dokonjonosuke Mishima The Tamura match was tremendous. #803 Daisuke Nakamura Can't say I know who this is, friends. #803 Daisuke Harada Another Daisuke I'm not familiar with. #801 Kazuo Sakurada Worth a vote for that wild street fight with Kurisu against Onita and Goto. #801 El Signo I mean, Signo rules and I feel like I probably should've at least considered him now. #799 Gus Sonnenberg I don't think I've seen any Sonnenberg. #799 Chris Brookes I'm not sure who this is so I probably haven't seen any Chris Brookes either. #798 "Unpredictable" Johnny Rodz Probably has more meat on a resume than you might think. #797 Wotan Anybody who is happy to call a junkyard their home is worth considering. Probably. Doubt there are 796 wrestlers who have a better top 3 career matches than Wotan. #796 Rusev Never been huge on him. Did a workout video on Sheamus' youtube channel that was pretty amusing. #795 TJ Perkins I forgot TJ Perkins existed. It has been a minute. #794 Máscara Sagrada The Pirata Morgan stuff rules. #791 Akira Nogami Cool pick. Always good for some fired up comebacks against higher-positioned opponents. Had one tag on the 80s New Japan set that was amazing. #791 Tony St. Clair I couldn't tell you the last time I watched him. #791 Javier Cruz Fell off my list this time around but he was on there in 2016. An awesome wrestler. I still love the Estrada hair match from '89. #790 "Jumping" Jim Brunzell Jumped - if you will - off the page going through the DVDVR AWA set and I considered him again this time, like I did in 2016. He fell off towards crunch time, as he did in 2016, but that dropkick is still a thing of beauty. Need to watch the Bockwinkel broadway at some point. #789 Roland Bock The Inoki match is incredible, I'll give him that. #788 George South Solid hand, they'd say. #787 Dominic Garrini Another modern candidate I'm not very familiar with. #786 Dream Machine Vote for all of the Memphis guys, I say. #785 Marty Scurll Don't think I've ever seen a Marty Scurll match. Probably won't bother. #784 Col. DeBeers Wiskowski had a pretty fun career. Great tag run with Rose in Portland and the ladder match with Blackwell in the AWA is much better than you's expect a ladder match involving a morbidly obese man to be. OR, perhaps you'd EXPECT a ladder match involving a morbidly obese man to be good. I wouldn't call you crazy for that. But that's a separate discussion. DeBeers was good. #783 Ken The Box I know who Ken The box is. #782 Vic Faulkner There's a whole WORLD of World of Sport to be sifted through. One day... #781 Dominic DeNucci Yeah okay let's do it.
Ricky Jackson Posted Saturday at 11:03 PM Posted Saturday at 11:03 PM As someone who has presumably watched more WWWF undercard stuff than the majority of folks around here, I would personally never rank Scicluna ahead of DeNucci, but to each their own
highflyflow Posted Saturday at 11:04 PM Posted Saturday at 11:04 PM Yoshiko Tamura fucking ruled, sad she's dropped already.
El-P Posted Saturday at 11:10 PM Posted Saturday at 11:10 PM At least she ranked again, like in 2006. Sorta. (I probably voted for her back then too)
Makai Club #1 Posted Saturday at 11:22 PM Posted Saturday at 11:22 PM It's really cool to see that Jey, Jimmy and Rikishi all voted. That's awesome
ohtani's jacket Posted Saturday at 11:23 PM Posted Saturday at 11:23 PM I really should have voted for Ken Joyce. Definitely the best of the WoS maestros. Not that it would have made much of a difference with the WoS guys dropping like flies. 00s Joshi perennially overlooked. I guess it may be that way for all time. To be fair, the decade started promisingly but fell off pretty quickly.
donsem43 Posted Saturday at 11:56 PM Posted Saturday at 11:56 PM 45 minutes ago, KB8 said: Yuzuki Aikawa Not a clue. These are really the only two matches that you need to watch: vs. Ayumi Kurihara - May 15, 2011 vs. Nanae Takahashi - December 24, 2012 41 minutes ago, highflyflow said: Yoshiko Tamura fucking ruled, sad she's dropped already. I knew I forgot somebody... Well to try and make up for it, here a playlist of what Tamura matches are up on YouTube: 28 minutes ago, ohtani's jacket said: 00s Joshi perennially overlooked. I guess it may be that way for all time. The only place that talked about it from the mid-00's to the mid-10's was that weird joshi message board whose name I can't remember. They used to upload a lot of stuff to Veoh.
El-P Posted Sunday at 12:17 AM Posted Sunday at 12:17 AM 17 minutes ago, donsem43 said: The only place that talked about it from the mid-00's to the mid-10's was that weird joshi message board whose name I can't remember. .... and now I'm trying to remember that joshi board I was part of in the early 00's. Not SpiderTwist, that was a general message board. Damnit. Funky something ? I don't remember. Being old... Anyway. I blame Vanes Naldi getting into Korean movies.
ohtani's jacket Posted Sunday at 12:25 AM Posted Sunday at 12:25 AM That reminds me of that fun primer comp that was made of early 00s Joshi. I can't remember the name of the guy who made it off the top of my head, but he was a cool dude. That and PUNQ match lists. Another guy who abandoned wrestling for movies, IIRC.
ohtani's jacket Posted Sunday at 12:26 AM Posted Sunday at 12:26 AM 30 minutes ago, donsem43 said: These are really the only two matches that you need to watch: vs. Ayumi Kurihara - May 15, 2011 vs. Nanae Takahashi - December 24, 2012 I knew I forgot somebody... Well to try and make up for it, here a playlist of what Tamura matches are up on YouTube: The only place that talked about it from the mid-00's to the mid-10's was that weird joshi message board whose name I can't remember. They used to upload a lot of stuff to Veoh. Was it Joshifans?
El-P Posted Sunday at 12:33 AM Posted Sunday at 12:33 AM Kanako Motoya and PUNQ dropped on the same thread. Wow. I liked both.
KB8 Posted Sunday at 12:35 AM Posted Sunday at 12:35 AM I remember reading PUNQ's reviews back in the mid-00s on DVDVR. He watched eeeeeeverything for a minute there. Spoiler #780 SUWA SUWA rules. A menace who wishes only to make everyone's day significantly worse. That KENTA match still holds up (how was that fucking 21 years ago???) #779 "Super Medico" José Estrada Sr. I've seen at least one Super Medico match and it was fun. So fair play. I'm glad Boricua is still repping the Puerto Rico boys. #778 ACH I'm honestly not sure who this is. #777 Dean Allmark I know who Dean Allmark is, but could not tell you a thing about him as a wrestler. #776 Mickie James Yeah Mickie was pretty fun for a minute there. The Trish match from Wrestlemania is a hoot. Or it was whenever I last watched it. #775 Kevin Ku No idea. #774 Judy Martin Love this. #773 "Dirty White Boy" Tony Anthony Man the Dirty White Boy ruled. His team with Denton was so good and I actually watched a handful of their matches recently. He was having really good stuff as late as 1994 too. #772 Chico Che Portly fella hitting portly topes against the bullies will always rule so clearly this is a good pick. #771 The Barbarian I like the Barbarian. I'd consider the Barbarian as seriously as Ted DiBiase at this point. His clothesline off the middle rope against Tito Santana at Wrestlemania 6 has always stuck with me from the moment I first saw it as a kid, on video when I rented it from Global Video because I'm not quite old enough to have watched Wrestlemania 6 live, and I could not really tell you why. But there you go. #770 Jack Gallagher The weird little sex pest guy with the mustache? I've maybe seen one match. Two, tops. #769 Gran Apache Had some really fun bloody brawls back in the 00s against Billy Boy. #768 Marcus Alexander "Buff" Bagwell Feels like a good spot for Buff. #767 Ryo Saito I liked Saito well enough when I was trying to follow Dragon Gate back in like 2005. Nice dragon suplex. #765 "Skinner" Steve Keirn I maybe should've voted for Keirn. The Fabs are one of my three favourite tag teams of all time and some of those Memphis brawls are as good as it gets. Went from handsome tag team member to slovenly gator-hunting boor with tobacco dripping down his chin better than any wrestler in history. Man Keirn should've been way higher. #765 Bobby Barnes I spologise to the WoS voters. I'll do better next time. #764 Alex Wright Probably not better than his da. #763 Chris Masters Had that really fun midcard run in 2010 that I don't think anybody ever would've expected at the time. #761 Mike Jackson Without question the best Young Buck. #761 Hiromitsu Kanehara Perfectly solid UWFi guy. I should watch his Kingdom stuff at some point. #760 Pez Whatley Cut Jimmy Valiant's hair. Had a nice kneelift. #758 Yuiga Couldn't tell you. #758 Guy Mercier The match with the incomparable Inca Peruano was very fun. #757 Daisuke Sasaki Actually seen a little bit but it's been a long time. He hit hard, if I remember correctly. #756 "Glamour Boy" Shane Sewell This sounded like a guy who passed through WoS but it turns out he did nothing of the sort and I don't know who he is. Worked TNA. Possibly a megastar. #755 Javier Llanes I wish we had some peak Llanes because the Dandy feud from '94 is sensational. #754 Mr. Condor Getting beat to hell and back by Black Terry feels like a pretty good case in itself for being on this list so I'm fully aligned with Mr. Condor being the 754th best wrestler to have ever lived. #753 Rene Lasartesse Don't think I've gotten to any of the Lasartesse footage yet. #752 Frankie Kazarian Been around forever. A guy who has wrestled a significant amount of matches, maybe of which I've seen, zero of them I remember. #751 Freelance Would always show up now and then and be spectacular. Some of the IWRG stuff was so good. #750 Brett Wayne Sawyer Not quite Buzz but then who is? Brett was pretty damn good, though! I like this pick. #749 Michael Elgin I don't think I've ever actually seen an Elgin match. #748 Ken Joyce I've read more posts from OJ about Ken Joyce than I've seen Ken Joyce matches. #747 "Pretty Boy" Doug Somers The Somers/Rose v Rockers feud really was tremendous. #746 Alexa Bliss Yeah cool go for it. #745 El Faraón Another guy I wish we had more footage of and especially from their prime. #744 Bull Pain Someone I haven't thought of it forever. #743 Sid Cooper I can only apologise again to the WoS folks. #742 Jay Youngblood Watched the Final Conflict recently enough where I'm like yeah absolutely Jay Youngblood deserves some votes. #741 Pat Roach I've actually watched enough Roach where I feel pretty confident in him being awesome without having a proper handle on him.
ohtani's jacket Posted Sunday at 01:08 AM Posted Sunday at 01:08 AM How did Judy Martin get nominated but Lelani Kai didn't?
KB8 Posted Sunday at 01:25 AM Posted Sunday at 01:25 AM 13 minutes ago, ohtani's jacket said: How did Judy Martin get nominated but Lelani Kai didn't? I'm guessing Judy's early 80s AJW run played a part. Without checking I'm not sure there's substantially more early 80s Martin in AJW than there is of Leilani Kai from whenever she was over there, but the match with Sherri against Hagiwara and Omori is pretty great and maybe gave her that bump into the vaunted top 800.
ohtani's jacket Posted Sunday at 01:28 AM Posted Sunday at 01:28 AM I'll see you that and raise the two Leilani Kai vs. Chigusa matches. I wonder how far people got post-Dump. Maybe that was a factor. Judy Martin is a great worker, I just find it weird that Lelani wasn't nominated as well.
cad Posted Sunday at 02:20 AM Posted Sunday at 02:20 AM 3 hours ago, Ricky Jackson said: As someone who has presumably watched more WWWF undercard stuff than the majority of folks around here, I would personally never rank Scicluna ahead of DeNucci, but to each their own He was my 100. I suppose I should explain it. I have just one grandparent remaining, my father's father, the man who gave me my last name. I'd have disrespected the family in a way if I hadn't voted for his homeland's greatest wrestler when I had the chance. I really thought that he was my only shot at a unique vote. 12 hours ago, ohtani's jacket said: Javier Cruz' drop off from #120 in 2006 is huge. I think we were watching a lot of 1990 EMLL at the time and he played a prominent role that year. He did better than in 2016. I mean sort of. He got the same number of votes, but last time his only vote was an 83.
NotJayTabb Posted Sunday at 04:01 AM Posted Sunday at 04:01 AM Pat Roach dropping this early is a shame
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