I think all the stories are out there. Certainly Grizzly Smith, Sweetan, Murdoch's little adventure, etc. The interesting thing is the reaction. To Ross it's an indication of the people you have to deal with to get in the business and not a clue that you're in the wrong business, but that's tough to figure out when you're in your 20s and breaking into the business world. Conrad wonders if word got around among promoters about these sleezebags and all I can think is, "you naive fool."