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When Warrior died I thought it'd be funny for that Halloween for some Indy wrestler to take on the gimmick of "Zombie Warrior", he comes out to the music but is at a normal walking pace.

I watched their first MSG match, which was Flair's return to the Garden 15 years after the Pete Sanchez match. Nothing significant as a match beyond that, but the crowd response to him coming out was cool. Lots of Flair/Horseman signs in the crowd which the camera tries but fails to avoid.

What happened with WrestleMania 8, from what I've read and deduced, is that it was always going to be Sid/Hogan. I'd heard that Vince wanted Sid as far back as 1990, and wouldn't have a hard time believing that the WM main event was in his contract either. I don't know if he felt as eager to get Flair, but obviously the circumstances under which he left in 1991 provided Vince the opportunity to subliminally bury his competition because the belt came along with him. My dream-booking scenario is that Flair is kept until WrestleMania 9 where he can have a loser-leaves town match with a returning Hogan. It would make for a much stronger double-main event with Bret/Yoko, and Ric can film segments in casinos looking like he's back in the Horsemen again.

I wonder what Vince makes of this whole Weinstein business. I remember a news item saying WWE was in talks them about maybe partnering up on DVD distributorship. In my head Vince and Harvey were probably rivals when they each were promoting rock concerts in the northeast during the late 70's.

I do think this should stay open, in order for the discussion about his 30 For 30 which will cover a lot of sigh-worthy things I'm sure.

Never understood that. Would have made more sense for the two teams to have eliminated each other by having a brawl on the outside, instead of in such a tepid fashion as that. Jesse and Gorilla don't really sell it much either. One call in the '88 match that still boggles me to this day is who the Conquistadors' manager was. Ventura says early on that each team on the Demolition side had one, and I suspect he just plain forgot about them.

Still contend this is one of the more overrated matches in WWF history. I have watched it on some live watches and at other points in the past couple of years and it doesn't top out at ***1/2 for me. Also, one of the dumbest decisions ever by a manager for Fuji to walk out on Demolition for Powers of Pain. Aye, but there's two big long 20-man tag matches, the Fuji flip was 1988 and the generally better-liked match was 1987. I would agree that neither is on the level of the other matches mentioned so far. And hey, Fuji was regularly portrayed as just plain dumb compared to some of the other managers, so it kind of fit? Both of these matches are my go-to-"Netflix and Chill" on the Network. 87 was the overall better match but 88 has some historic value to it. The Demos/PoP switch at the end with Fuji and it's also the last match the Bulldogs had in the WWF (maybe North America, too?). As far as pay-per-view matches, both would probably be in my personal top ten. They highlighted just how good the tag teams were for a time. I'd go with Warrior/Savage from WM VII. Loss is right in that it might be the best WWF match, as opposed to the best professional wrestling match.

What I hope for is that he backs those words up with action and enters a treatment facility. But yeah I can imagine a brush that close with death would make him realize that.

Until he made that transition, which I'd say was around the time he came back in 2001, he basically went from bad to worse. I still can't enjoy his commentary in the "New Generation" era, because it felt like he was just cutting heel promos all the time instead of announcing. Heenan and Ventura were better at giving their side of the argument, but also very occasionally giving faces their due as well. I started to like him when he came back, because I actually thought at the time that Heyman was worse. He did a good enough job at WrestleMania 17 to make me turn my opinion around on his performance there, but I felt the antagonizing nature of him and JR tended to overwhelm what was going on in front of our eyes which isn't good. I later watched the Heyman doc WWE did and he said it was his idea to make it more entertaining if him and Ross hated each other.

Bobby made most anyone look good, including Gorilla who had his own deficiencies in the broadcast booth. Although I think Ventura was better at working around those, where Heenan could sometimes but not always. I think he gets way too much flak for his time in WCW. It's clear that Bischoff did not know how to produce him in the similar manner which Vince and Bruce Prichard did, so in that regard it is sub-par in comparison. But there were times his talent shone pretty quickly. It wasn't very often, but the three-man booth of Bobby, Tony Schiavone and Dusty were great together. Quite a bit of personal history among the three of them, and there was chemistry that must have gone unnoticed by the people that could have made them the default broadcasting team.

One of the things I asked him about was something I read in an old Sports Illustrated attributed to something he told the Los Angeles Times in 1975 in an article about a fan who died at a card at the city's Sports Arena. "One less guy to spit on me" was his quote.

Warrior ridiculed Bobby's fight with cancer in his rebuttal to the Self-Destruction DVD and Heenan's participation in it. I took that gravely personal, as someone who had loved ones who dealt with cancer myself. So yes, fuck him.

When he came back at the 96 Royal Rumble and that music hit is still one of my favorite moments.

I think Meltzer said that he was being offered scripts for sitcoms at one point. I'd imagine during the SNME era NBC could have seen talent in someone like Bobby that went beyond wrestling.

I met him in 1999 at an autograph signing at a record store. Knowing how bored and overall grouchy he had become in WCW, his demeanor that day isn't all that surprising. I talked to him for about 5 minutes, and he did well enough to engage but I could kind of tell he wanted to be anywhere else than a place that was blasting loud rock music, and being asked questions of varying interest by marks.

Funny, but also managed to keep his heat too.

He was so good, he even had a little jive

According to Jim Ross' Twitter, he passed away today. I'd have no reason to believe Ross would report something like this erroneously.

I'd like to think that if Warrior stuck around, he would have taken the role that Sid did in this angle. Basically, have Warrior and Savage do the angle they did a year later with the Ultimate Maniacs. You could have some good segments with the two of them, still holding some anger towards each other but it dissipates as they have common enemies now. I'd not be surprised if that was the original direction the angle would have taken. If you hear Savage during the segment where Warrior is locked in the casket, it's some compelling stuff that could have worked towards that. But like a turd in a punchbowl Warrior took his ball and went home. We still got a pretty intense program out of this anyway.

Did he ever explain as to why he never got a job with WWE in 2001? At the time dirtsheets said he was in negociations but he kept calling the office for a answer and in the end they decided not to give him a job. Haven't seen it but I would guess that he didn't leave enough of a good taste in Vince's mouth from his previous run to hire him.

I don't mind them going up. It would connect a lot of dots in terms of getting the full range of each company during the years those shows were on. It's also why I want to see more Prime Time, and eventually Superstars/Challenge go up too.