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  1. I had more of problem with Lawler punching the valet. That is close enough to my wrapping a towel around his fist and punching a woman. The Dudleys jobbing to Chyna would have made me ill. Bubba said May insisted on it, and threatened to punch him if he tried to protect her. I think this was before the one off the ramp. The week before she was mad, Bubba had taken too much of the bump to protect her.
  2. Are you also bothered by sunshine on a cloudy day?
  3. I think if you have been exposed to real violence in your life, especially real domestic violence. Comparing it to a wrestling show is stupid. It genuinely offends me. To see someone equate a guy doing a bullshit wrestling move to a valet to a man beating his wife. Unless the wrestler wraps his fist in a towel and punches the woman in the face, I could give a shit. It's like getting offended over the Dragonball Z episode where Trunks killed Android 18. I'm not even sure why Austin is mad. He's the one who tried to kill HHH by dropping his car (with HHH inside) from two stories high using a forklift. But no I don't particularly care that he yelled at Stephanie Mcmahon. No more than I gave a shit when he made her dad piss his pants by pretending to shoot him.
  4. Does this have the Somalia Relief commercial that aired right after?
  5. The HHH/Punk segments Monday and Tuesday were awful. They made me hate wrestling and Punk in particular. Between those and the Impact taping I'm convinced talking is killing wrestling. They need to restructure the shows to have fifteen minutes of talking combined.
  6. I swear for years I would defend Benoit saying he had charisma. I called it "Mad Dog killer" charisma. How right I was.
  7. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpCBvC-IOM4...player_embedded This is the match with Big Show that set up the Extreme Rules rubber match. Even if it is weird since Show beat Sabu at Summerslam and won here by DQ. But that's modern wrestling for you. One thing I loved with this feud was Heyman begging Show not to underestimate Sabu. But Show is all "Don't worry I got this. I'm a giant." and slowly reality sets in like when Rocky knocks Apollo Creed on his ass in Round One. Show was perfect during this period. The perfect mixture of Unstoppable monster/vulnerable heel Champion. You can buy ancient melting man of wax Flair beating Show. Or the Sandman beating Show. Because ECW is this alien planet with its own customs. While the WWE wrestlers were like settlers converting the natives to Christianity. Until eventually the natives entire culture is assimilated. This match starts like the other Sabu/Show matches. Show comes in overwhelming Sabu. Headbutts, Chops and crazy looking military presses dominate. Show drops him from the press slam on the top rope and Sabu dropped directly from the floor. With Big Show a basic bodyslam looks brutal. Sabu starts firing off some punches and Show wipes him out with a Lariat. He just suffocated Sabu with half his body. Show clamps him in a bearhug and Sabu tries to gogue his eyes out. Ref reprimands Sabu while Show starts to realize what he is dealing with. Blinded, Show accidentally wipes out the referee with a spear. Sabu leaps off the ropes and Show catches him. He hits a crazy Fallaway Slam that sends Sabu flying across the ring. Sabu heads outside, Show pursues and Sabu cracks him in the head with a chair. Catches him with a few more shots, finally toppling him with a chair shot off the top rope. He hits the Triple Jump Moonsault and Arabian Facebuster but no referee. Another ref runs in and Sabu gets a two count. Sabu goes fuck it and grabs the ring bell. He splits Show's scalp open and the referee cowers in the corner. Sabu is enraged and hits Show over and over. He is covered in blood and pleading with Sabu to show mercy. Because of how good Show and Sabu are you buy it. He keeps hitting him and Show goes over the top thru a table. Sabu is DQ'ed I think. Or maybe Show was for wiping out the first Ref. Sabu stands looking crazed holding the bell in his mouth.
  8. The next week he dropped an anvil on Trish Stratus. That monster doesn't know when to stop.
  9. The Austin situation was far worse because he had just recently been arrested for beating his wife Debra. Take that context into the Stacy Stunner and it's one of the most disgusting things the WWE has ever done. To me when you have been exposed to real violence, especially real domestic violence. Trying to equate it to something like a Stone Cold Stunner borders on offensive. It's not quite calling a Road Runner cartoon animal cruelty, but its in the neighborhood.
  10. I liker how Hogan conquered his fear of Andre after WM 3. After that he always took the fight to him immediately.
  11. If Hogan roughed up Elisabeth that would be wrong. Just because Liz really had no means to defend herself. Sherri was a trained wrestler and former Women's champion. They did an angle once where Steve Lombardi blindsided Gorilla Monsoon. If Lombardi had did that to Sean Mooney it would have been worse, because Gorilla is a large man capable of defending himself somewhat.
  12. Six foot eight, three hundred plus pound Hogan putting his hands on a much smaller woman is justified? Who attacked him repeatedly, and he never actually struck. Instead throwing her from the ring after an atomic drop? Yep pretty much.
  13. Except Hogan was fully justified in what he did to Sherri. In fact he should be commended for showing restraint.
  14. She got in his line of sight and insulted him by turning down his gracious gesture of a beer. Jesus offers you a steak, you don't tell him you're a vegan. Or something It does take me back to an earlier point. Austin woulda left Sherri in a shallow grave.
  15. They usually got in his line of sight.
  16. "I'm not gay, you sucked my dick."
  17. RVD was essentially a spinoff of Sabu. They are so intertwined its hard to discuss one without the other. Well I think Sabu stands alone fine. But RVD feels like a car missing a wheel without Sabu. I love RVD. I love the unneeded flips. I love the dickhead arrogance and I love the Carrot Top offense. Because it all feels like a natural extension of RVD. He reminds me of the Ultimate Warrior. He created a persona and played it perfectly. I think it is why he stayed so over no matter where he was. On a personal note, I missed meeting him by five minutes twice last Thursday and am bummed out.
  18. This is a really good match. Dustin doing the spin bump on the floor was sick. Dustin would make my top five Vader opponents. If they had worked more, Top Three.
  19. Sabu a Day:Day 4 vs La Parka MLW should have been the best of the three upstart promotions of 2002. They did not do the stupid shit TNA did and they were not wrestling as performance art indy classic bullshit of ROH. But nothing they did ever worked. Even stuff that should have been good in theory. The Sabu vs La Parka feud however is one of the things that did work. This is not their first match. That one ended with Sabu bludgeoning Parka with scissors. Tearing his mask open and leaving him a bloody mess. It had this awesome visual of a bloody Parka crawling desperately toward Sabu. This is the rematch some months later. They did some angle where Parka injured Bill Alfonzo, so he sends his brother the Cuban Assassin in his place. Parka comes out in some sweet ring gear. Wearing a crazy rubber skull mask over his regular crazy skull mask. Joey Styles wonders if it is a Missy Hyatt mask. Match starts with some nice mat work. Sabu takes down Parka with an armbar. They end up brawling on the floor. Both of them taking some nasty bumps. Watching this I wonder if they genuinely dislike each other. Sabu throws a chair in Parka's face and Parka tries to cave in Sabu's skull. Parka tries to throw Sabu into a table, Sabu escapes and slams Parka's head into the hardwood. Looks really nasty. Parka responds by trying to decapitate Sabu with a short arm clothesline. These two are dropping bombs like a lightweight Hansen/Vader. Parka hits a great looking suicide dive. Parka misses a senton in the ring. Sabu locks on a Camel Clutch but Parka fights to the ropes. Guys dragging guys to the ropes to escape submissions sometimes bugs me. Like seeing Rey Mysterio pull Edge across the ring to escape the Sharpshooter. But here it works with Parka having a size advantage and it really looks like a struggle. Lot of people dislike Joey Styles. Hell he bugs me at times. But I think he was good here. One thing he got across was how familiar he was with Sabu. Later he pointed out that Sabu was at a disadvantage not having Fonzie, since he had no chemistry with Assassin. But putting over Assassin is a wrestler which makes him less of a liability. Parka faceplants Sabu into a chair and again it looks nasty. Parka and Sabu trade punches on the turnbuckle. Parka gets the advantage and faceplants Sabu into the chair from the second rope. Ref tried to move it but you see Parka threaten him. He tosses Sabu out and hits another brutal looking suicide dive. Parka hits Sabu with a broken table and I don't know where it came from. The match is not edited so I must have missed something. Sabu tosses Parka into the table shrapnel in the corner. Sabu pins Parka covered in the shrapnel and it is a great visual. The match is disjointed in places. But they go by that old rule of when in doubt beat the shit outta each other and it works. Parka knocks down Sabu and cuts a little jig. Parka is a guy who really should have been a far bigger star in this country. Lots of charisma, good in the ring and big enough to credibly fight heavyweights. Weird spot on the apron. It looks like they are having a disagreement on what to do so Sabu hip tosses him into the ring and Parka reverses. Parka hits a stiff standing enzugiri on Sabu. Hits a sitout Powerbomb, but he can't finish him off.. Sabu escapes the table but is hit by a Crossbody block off the top. Assassin comes in and knees Parka in the gut. The type of brute force that Fonzie can't provide. Sabu hits the Triple Jump Moonsault spot on. Assassin proves a liability. He can't move as fast as Fonzie or set up the tables and chairs properly. Which for Sabu is crucial and he pays for it in the end. While Sabu is climbing up top, Assassin comes into hold Parka down. But Parka nails him with a chair and Sabu puts Assassin thru the table. Parka hits a moosault somersault block onto Sabu for three. This match is not perfect. It is disjointed in places. But the action is stiff and nasty enough I can overlook its flaws.
  20. Check out anything with Sabu and Big Show. There is a really good Sabu/Angle match that I'll get to. I loved a lot of RVD's stuff from this time but I know he is a polarizing figure. He had some really good matches with Bob Holly and Test.
  21. Thought I mighta missed one.
  22. I took out a data disc full of Sabu matches. So I started watching them and they are awesome. I decided at my blog http://drvictatorpresents.blogspot.com/ to write about one Sabu match a day. Sabu a Day:Day 1 vs Abyss some time in 2004. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yrm7LBVXVY...player_embedded First day is a Sabu vs Abyss falls count anywhere match from 2004. This match is from one of the old weekly TNA PPV shows. This was a part of the build up to the first match with Raven. Not sure why Abyss is involved. I'm not a big fan of Abyss for whatever reason, he and Sabu have great chemistry. I have never seen them have anything less than a good match. They had a feud in 05 that culminated in TNA's only Barbwire match. This is a street fight. Abyss has control of the early portions of the match using his size to take away Sabu's speed and crazy advantage but the match still goes to the outside. Sabu wears him out with chairshots. He hits a great looking Air Sabu dive to the floor. No seriously check it out, he gets some crazy hang time. They fight up to the entrance set. I forgot how rinky dink the TNA "Asylum" looked. I'll still take it over the Impact Zone. So a table is set up and Abyss and Sabu are fighting above it. Trading punches perilously above it as if the table was hot lava. I've said it before, but Sabu really understands how to get the most out of a table spot. Even matches with multiple table spots build in intensity. Sabu hits a sweet looking elbow splash into the table wreckage on Abyss getting a two count. They fight back to the ring with Abyss continually going on the attack. Sabu has another chair and again gives Abyss noggin a floggin. Gets him down and hits an Arabian Facebuster. The chair is all mangled and broken. Which is a cool visual. Abyss tries to catch Sabu on the turnbuckle but Sabu catches it and cracks Abyss skull. The match is kinda like a Road Runner cartoon with Abyss as the Coyote. To further illustrate this point, Abyss takes out his chain. Sabu ducks grabs the chain and hog ties Abyss. Abyss catches Sabu with a tossed chair as he tries the Triple Jump moonsault. Its interesting that every time Abyss gets any sustained offense it is thru cheating. They fight down by the stage again. Sabu puts Abyss on a table and leaps off the bleachers onto Abyss. Sabu does not pin him instead wanting to get another table to finish Abyss for good. Now Sabu is at the highest point in the Asylum. Lights go out and Raven pushes him off onto the table and it doesn't break. Raven dives off onto him with an elbow. Abyss gets the three. I don't know if that was improvised but that was certainly a sick bump for Sabu to take. I wish Kane vs Sabu had happened once in Sabu's WWE tenure. If he can do good work with Dollar Tree Kane, then surely he could do great work with real Kane. Sabu a Day:Day 2 vs Kevin Thorn ECW 2006 This match is from the Halloween 2006 episode of ECW on Syfy. Sabu is facing Kevin Thorn for a spot in the Extreme Elimination Chamber. Which as an aside is an unfairly slagged match BTW. I love Kevin Thorn. I think I was singing his praises in 06 but not nearly enough. Loved his feud with Stevie Richards in 2007. I wish he had been moved to Smackdown to feud with Taker. But this match is with Sabu. You get a similar dynamic to the match with Abyss. Though in the case of Thorn he is wrestling more like a monster. While Abyss was acting like a 6ft6 300 pound chickenshit heel. Initially Thorn runs over Sabu. Having a clear cut size and power advantage. Until Sabu takes over using his speed and general unorthodox style. Thorn goes to the floor and Sabu dives onto him. I liked Ariel's 'Holy Shit" reaction. Sabu presses the advantage with a beautiful looking slingshot splash. One thing I loved about Sabu's eith month WWE tenure was he got a lot more creative without being able to use chairs and tables. So you never know where he is going to spring from. Thorn gets back the advantage by turning an attempted leaping DDT into a sit out Spinebuster. Thron runs Sabu's shoulder into the turnbuckle and does a good job working him over on the mat with a chinlock and armbar. Not rest holds, really working him over. Sabu catches Thorn with a sweet looking leaping leg lariat off the second rope. Follows it with a nice looking leaping clothesline and flying back elbow. He comes off the second rope and Thorn hits him with a nasty looking clothesline. Thorn misses a charge, and Sabu hits him with a GREAT flying DDT. Then hits him with a flipping legdrop and gets the rare submission win with the Camel Clutch. I love this match. A perfect sub five minute TV match. Sabu a Day:Day 3 vs Big Show MSG Extreme Rules http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ow91UbO9ydo...player_embedded So on the first day I said in regards to Sabu vs Abyss "I wish Kane vs Sabu had happened once in Sabu's WWE tenure. If he can do good work with Dollar Tree Kane, then surely he could do great work with real Kane." Today we put that theory to the test as we watch Sabu vs Big Show in an Extreme Rules match from Madison Square Garden. This match is the blow off to the Sabu/Big Show feud. They had a match at Summerslam that Big Show won. They had a rematch where Sabu got a visual pinfall. That match had Sabu bloodying Show with a ring bell and it was great. It set this match up. First things first, I think Big Show is the best ECW Champion ever. You could of put his reign in the original ECW and it would not of seemed outta place. Every week they were bringing in special attractions from Raw and Smackdown trying to take down Show. Mixed in with him feuding with ECW regulars like RVD,Sandman and of course Sabu. Match starts and the size difference is obvious. Sabu tries to use a chair and Show swats it aside casually. Show ragdolls Sabu around the ring. Bashes his head in with headbutts. Hits him with chops. As a dick move he tosses him outside and lets Heyman's bodyguards beat up on Sabu. Heyman is outside kissing Show's ass, and Show has this dopey grin on his face. Big Show has the absolute perfect balance between genuine monster and hateable dick head. Show takes the chair Sabu tried to use earlier and destroys it. He actually rips it apart with his bare hands. Sabu takes this as a sign to get it in gear but Show crushes him with a clothesline. After being worked over, Sabu tags Show in the nuts. Dropping him to his knees. Sabu grabs a chair and tags him in the face with multiple chair shots. He tries to lock on the camel clutch which looks crazy. Like my two year old nephew trying to choke me out. Show picks him up and turns it into a side slam. Sabu dodges a big boot, causing Show to crotch himself.. Sabu hits a flying dropkick, knocking Show to the floor. Heyman's guards help Show back into the ring. Show easily kicks out of a pin attempt and is already back in control. Show is ready to end things. He tries to chokeslam Sabu thru a table but Sabu reverses it into a DDT. Show is so huge Sabu is briefly trapped under his arm. Like someone in a collapsed building under a beam. Sabu is up and has the chair and goes to town. Heyman is great wincing and crying. One last shot sends Show to the floor thru another table. Outside the ring, Sabu attacks Heyman's guards. I love how when Sabu punched them he shifted his hand to a different position to protect his knuckles. Show tries to slam him but Sabu gets out of the way and shoves him into a turnbuckle post. Show is draped on a table. Sabu comes off the top for a legdrop, sees Show has moved and adjust to hit him with Air Sabu but Show catches him and Chokeslams him thru the table. Back in the ring and the Cobra Clutch Back Breaker and Hog Log ends it. I loved the first three months of ECW on Sci fi. It went downhill after Show lost the belt. I know it occasionally had its moments until it croaked last year. But nothing compares to Big Show tearing shit up with Sabu and Sandman every week.
  23. I found Lawler punching them disturbing. It was not a wrestling move cartoon esque violence. It was just a dude rearing back and socking her in the jaw.
  24. I'm sure Hulk returned the calls when he got the time. If I betrayed everyone who did not promptly return a call or email I would be on my third life sentence. Which is why Hulk assumed Andre never wanted a title match. Like the WWF Championship if Hogan wanted Liz he would of taken her. That is a good recipe for losing your title.
  25. Hogan never punched Sherri. He would Atomic Drop her and toss her from the ring. I mean it is not the 1800's anymore and Sherri was a former woman's champion and portrayed as tougher than most of the managers. What exactly are you suppose to do if you are attacked by someone capable of hurting you?
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