Coffey

It's surreal when you think about it. The Dudleys Vs. The Hardyz Vs. Edge & Christian were big matches in WWE. The Dudleys & Jeff Hardy are already in TNA. Christian will probably be showing up soon. Matt Hardy was close to going at one time too. Edge is currently on the shelf due to injury again.

Damn. I guess that puts this, at least in my eyes, in the true column. Well, here's to hoping that he stays in the business and gets some matches in ROH before jobbing to a Jarrett guitar shot in TNA.

I'm curious what his breaking point was. Maybe the Boogeyman and the midgets getting TV time on Smackdown?

I can't help but think back to Edge's book when he talked about Christian not wanting wrestling as bad as he did. In fact, he even got in after Edge even though they were childhood friends and Edge was already "on his way." If that's true, I'm more afraid that this is true and Christian will get out of the business instead of going to work TNA, ROH or Japan when he no compete clause ends.

I'm not believing it at this second. Who knows though? Has WWE.com tried to work the 'net in the past? Is Halloween a special enough occasion?

I just want to point out that 370 lbs. was a typing error. He's 310.

Apparently he has a pretty big resume. He's 6'6", 310 lbs. and has a backround in Judo and Sambo. Apparently, he's done some acting work too. I don't see any reason why WWE wouldn't be high on him.

Apparently he was just there showing off some russian wrestler and just so happened to show his distain for not having power in TNA anymore.

It doesn't have to be some certain significant point that we start from. We could just simply state "the last twenty years" or whatever and do '85-'05

I'm not going to lie, I loved MMA 'Taker. I was happy when he got an Undisputed title run too. I remember really enjoying his ladder match with Jeff Hardy. He started doing a lot of different spots that I liked too. Hell, I remember when he beat TBS with a triangle choke. Now that was believable.

As soon as he talks, it's over.

I'm just saying, he has just as much right to critisize TNA as we have to support it. Maybe even moreso since he has a better grasp of the business, since he's involved in it. I mean, people would listen to World Heavyweight Champion Batista of WWE before they listen to Joshua Coffey from the internet. That's all I'm saying.

Well, to be fair, he is the current Heavyweight champion of the largest wrestling promotion on the planet. I mean, that doesn't mean that he has the best workrate ever or anything but I think it gives him a right to speak his mind, esepcially as it pertains to wrestling.

Well, it's easy to say that when you weren't there. He could've just as easily said "Thank you." and that be it. I also don't think he was referencing a previous gimmick.

To be honest, Abyss has one of the only entrance songs that I recognize when it starts. I think TNA should incorporate a ranking system. Instead of just throwing four guys together, tell us that the match is happening for a reason. Maybe Sonjay Dutt wants to move up in the rankings so he can get an X-Division title shot? It was odd seeing Roderick Strong, Austin Aries, Alex Shelley & Sonjay Dutt all in a 4-way match out of the blue.

OK, so '89 - '05 WCW & WWF(E)? Would that suit people well? That'd work for me. I'm curious where people like Rick Rude, Randy Savage, Vader & Mr. Perfect would finish.

OK, well, what about if you were to go to, let's say an autograph signing. Let's say The Big Show is there and after he signs you an autograph you say "Thanks Mr. Wight." Would that be wrong? My friend did that and after he did it, I thought it was disrespectful and ignorant. I never brought it up with him though. Even though The Big Show has been referenced as Paul Wight on-screen, would that still be unacceptable? It seemed like a clear cut case of my friend trying to get himself over to me. Almost as if to say "yeah, I know your real name because I read the internet." I can definitely see why it could piss off some wrestlers. I mean, shit, it pisses off some non-wrestlers!

Maybe ECW too? There were around for awhile and I'm sure a couple of cats like RVD and Mikey Whipwreck would make the list, although not near the top. Hell, maybe we should just do 1990 - Present North America?

Anyone have a link to the Raven shoot the was referenced in the article about using wrestlers real names?

It almost sounds like Meltzer is saying the content of the match doesn't matter. The World Series games have been good individual games. I mean, the Sox have won the first three but they've been good games. The problem is, no one cares. So, maybe he's saying wrestling should do a better job of building to matches instead of just slapping random matches on Raw & Smackdown?

Hmm, good point. I think universally, WWF is pretty well known. We could do, like, Wrestlemania 3 - present? Of course, then we'll see Hogan, Rock, Austin, Foley & Hart in the top slots most likely. Actually, it'd probably be pretty tough to get fifty out of that. We'd have like Demolition Smash at #87.

I dunno. Seems like we're a pretty knowledgable group. That's why I proposed the ranking list. If we have several people submitting names, we won't have to worry about forgetting people or what have you. If there's someone that's good that the majority of the posters don't really know, then there's a chance they won't make it on to the final list. Then, when we get the final list, everyone puts it in order. Then we do a point system with each persons list to figure out the final list. I think it'd work.

Sorry, I edited my post. What do you think about the submission of wrestlers to create an ultimate list idea? The only thing I could see being rough is, like, the last couple of slots on the final list or the inclusion of women.

I'm not really sure. I mean, if we were to just do it on workrate, some huge names that had a lot of impact, such as Hogan, would be missing. What do you suggest? I figured we could do, like, a point scale for each wrestler that we list? Maybe have, like, categories for impact, talking, selling, bumping, drawing, etc.? I'm just confident that we could come up with a lot better of a list here, no matter what we base it on. Most of the posters here have a broader range of footage that they've seen and a better grasp of the history of the business. I mean, Jumbo was #72 on their list...below Bam Bam, Chyna & The Sandman. Maybe we can do it sort of like how we did the nominations for the tournaments that we used to run? Get everyone to throw names of people into a hat and then we'll do cuts until we get down to a final list of 100...then we all put that list in order and use a point system to determine a final list?

Inspired by this thread. I was disappointed with where a lot of the wrestlers were. Namely people like HBK, Angle being so high. I was curious if maybe we could get something like this together? Maybe get people to make some lists ranking some wrestlers, give points for being listed and extra points for #1 votes or something? I think it'd be fun. I really liked the set-up that the guy in the thread did though. When doing the list, he provided a picture a brief description and a list of some matches they are famous for.