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  1. Gregor
    I like this match, but I think that it's the least of the Shawn Michaels renowned matches. It doesn't hold up for me as well as the 1995 one does. The stuff that they do before bringing the ladder into the ring doesn't really match the stuff they do afterward. The first few minutes are just flashy wrestling that doesn't have much behind it and doesn't go anywhere. Once the ladder came into play, I really enjoyed it.
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    I thought that the Gladiators were going to be something special, but instead they were jobbed out to the Mulkey brothers, of all people, and you can't really recover from a debut like that. They could have been the tag team of the '90s, and in fact you might be able to trace the decline of American tag team wrestling in the 1990s to the mishandling of the Gladiators.
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    I think I recall reading that he officially doesn't have to get tested anymore.
  4. Gregor
    I'm pretty sure that HHH isn't subject to the wellness policy.
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    This match is totally phoned in. Randy Savage and Owen Hart are more interesting than either guy in the ring. Donnie Wahlberg's interview via phone is not. Owen's voice whenever he'd lie always made it work. He had NO conviction in his lies at all. "I suppose I gotta help him out again!"
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    It's kind of strange that, four years later, they repeated this scenario without the promo and ascension to the heavens, as if they thought that this was a great finish that they'd simply overdone a little the first time.
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    This match is really good. I like it a lot more than either of the other Kid/Jannetty matches (not that I dislike those ones). There are a bunch of hope spots, mostly when Jannetty's in there, and they're all compelling and convincing. The heat segment for the RAW match was just the Quebecers doing their cool moves; here, it's all about Jannetty fighting to make the tag. Maybe that's just the difference between Jannetty being in there and the Kid being in there.
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    I don't know if it qualifies as a "trope," but I don't like when a guy wins pretty much all of his matches with the same move. I wouldn't say that I "loathe" it - it just takes away some of the drama from that guy's matches and seems a little unrealistic.
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    1997 Recommendations

    Gregor replied to Loss's topic in 1997

    Bret vs. Mankind is pretty forgettable, although I can see why you'd want it on there as the only taped match they have together. It's not bad or anything.
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    I think my favorite spot from this is when Llanes gets mad at Dandy for slapping him and then starts to argue with the referee. Llanes is screwed, because they were legal, open-handed shots, and his complaints about violence in a title match are pretty ridiculous in light of his attempts to rip Dandy's arm off in the second fall. As Llanes continues to plead his case, Dandy just dropkicks him to put an end to that nonsense. It's a funny little spot, but the match doesn't lose any of its seriousness or intensity as it occurs. Maybe that means that I simply misinterpreted what was going on, but I like how they can do a funny bit in the middle of the match without taking away from it at all. When some people were explaining why lucha didn't click with them a couple of weeks/months back, one of the things brought up was the cooperative-looking matwork. With few exceptions, the individual holds used in this match are pretty much all holds that you'd see in American wrestling. There's a sequence in the first fall, when Llanes holds on to an armbar throughout all of Dandy's clever counter attempts, that would fit right in with the opening segment of a Bret Hart match. The match is still wrestled in a lucha style, but there are maybe two intricate or ornate holds. Lucha matwork doesn't really bother me or anything; it's just something that stuck out about this one. One last thing: if I were defending my championship of the world, I'd be pretty annoyed if my second showed up in a zebra-striped jumpsuit.
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    This match has the most poorly timed replay I've ever seen, as it takes up the full screen and comes right when Guerrera is going for a dive. They do have the replay of the dive, which results in Juventud getting dumped on his head. One of the commentators' cell phone goes off, too. Not a good day in terms of production.
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    It's a demonstrably untrue claim. It's possible that all of the alcohol and drugs could have wiped it from his memory in the two years between that match and the Jericho one. I'd guess that Jericho was just wrong, though.
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    Jimmy Del Ray, with the caveat that he is disappointingly non-creepy when he goes clean-shaven or full-bearded. When he's rocking just the mustache, though, he looks like total white trash. He has this way of keeping his mouth open that somehow accentuates the look. I could definitely see him trying to lure little girls into his trailer or something. He swiveled his hips, too, just in case his creepiness was too subtle for some.
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    Yeah, I was thinking about this match and that feud when first reading this thread. That whole thing was pretty much all Jericho (and the great twist in the battle royal), as Malenko wasn't even on TV after the Uncensored match. It was probably as over as Malenko ever got in the states, and he didn't really have much to do with it.
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    My favorite WCW Jericho match is the SuperBrawl one against Juventud Guerrera. There's some sloppiness, but there are also a lot of fun spots, and the ending stretch is really good. I also like his Halloween Havoc match with Raven and a January Nitro match with Booker T, neither of which I'd classify as "must-see," though. I pretty much agree with you that he's at his best getting his character over.
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    Maybe when Vince bought WCW. I can't recall a single instance of a WWF/WWE wrestler beating a celebrity, although that probably means that I'm forgetting someone.
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    It's been a while since I watched it, but I think he does a tombstone in the middle of his WM X match with Bret.
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    What are the best HHH matches? The ones that were most liked at the time they happened (I think) were the ladder match, a bunch of his 2000 PPV matches, the 2001 Austin match, and the 2003 RAW match with Michaels.
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    It was brought up in response to the "can women wrestle men" sidebar that popped up. It wasn't an argument against watching women's wrestling.
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    It's been over thirty years, but in the '70s a male tennis player in his 50s handily defeated one of the top female players of the time, and she was only 30. He later lost to another female player. Still, that a middle-aged man could beat a woman who was closer to her prime is decent evidence that men's tennis is (or was in the 1970s) a higher level of play than women's tennis.
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    I wouldn't really describe 1999 WWF as kid-unfriendly. It had breasts and lots of swearing. Kids want to see that kind of stuff. I feel like Vince Russo's sense of humor would appeal more to kids than it would to adults.1999 WWF was more parent-unfriendly than kid-unfriendly, and I don't know how many parents barred their kids from watching.
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    If you're looking for matches that are good but fly under the radar a bit, I'd suggest Kane/X-Pac vs. Mark Henry/D'Lo Brown from Over the Edge '99. It's not a contender for best WWF match of all time, but it's a good match from a down period for the company and maybe the best match that any of those four guys had in 1999. from 1997 is another fun one, although it's not really a standout match for 1997 for any of the participants.
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    The Austin TV matches comments led me to look up The Rock in 2000. The man had a match on 94 TV shows that year and had multiple matches on a few of them. I can't even fathom that.
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    I've been trying to keep track of the positive things said about HHH in this thread, and I think the number is at about three or four. "I like Triple H well enough myself," "HHH at his best was a good bumper," and several lines each from Strummer and Loss. All of the other praise he's received has been in the form of backhanded compliments ("He's better than Tom Zenk/Sid"; "He's compentent"). I imagine some of that has to do with the fact that he's being compared mostly to good wrestlers. Still, the thread's first line had HHH pegged at average. So how does he get there? What does he do well? Is calling him "average" too high praise?
  25. Gregor

    Peculiarities

    Gregor replied to Matt D's topic in Pro Wrestling

    How long was he with the WWF? I think he also reffed Marty Jannetty's IC Title win.
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