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Wow you guys covered a ton of ground! One thing about the Misawa/Williams match is how Misawa's elbows become less and less effective as he's getting close to losing. He may be the man, but Williams has worn him down to the point that his big weapon is failing him. The hourlong Kawada/Kobashi match is soemthing I am mixed on. Some really great stuff, including an incredible fight over a figure four, but not my cup of tea. The hourlong tag was not as good and also has the weakness of coming right on the heels of another hour draw. Taue's shovedown is one of my favorite spots he does. He doesn't have the strikes that the other guys do, so he uses his size and strength to equalize things. I also love how most of Taue's offense builds towards the chokeslam and the powerbomb. Hell, I love Taue more than most because of all of that and the fact that he doesn't do anything pretty. In the company he kept, he was the guy who had to work the hardest to stay with the others. His wrestling style somehow reflected that. Oh and those were their actual nicknames. Steven talked about Sasuke and Dos Caras. Sasuke got a cracked skull off of that bump. Why he kept wrestling the match after that I'll never know, but I love that crazy fuck. As for Misawa vs. Taue, that is one of my favorite matches of 1995. I love Taue's continued attack on Misawa's injury, ending with the final desperation face rake that almost gets him there. Oh, and I wish I could hate Parv for being the low man on Kawada, but to each his own.

Which is what this thread was made to figure out. If most of us are okay with him working for both then he can work for both.

I understand your point. If a promotion pops up in New York it will be a new promotion. Same for Georgia. I am all in favor of people starting up in Arizona or California. There is a reason there is a poll in the other thread. We can get an idea of what the majority of people in the project want.

I think what's happened has happened. No need to retcon things that _have_ happened. Maybe have the Dynasty keep those titles for their run as champions and then "lose" them off screen on the way down?

Why not have there be controversy over the titles?

We have several ideas presented so far on the dummy promotions. 1. Full roster promotion just sitting there waiting. 2. Champions staying inactive with a free agent list. 3. Full free agent list that any incoming promotion can pick from. I added the idea of an option for people to trade with the free agency pool with a heavy majority of the other writers needed to sign off on the trade. What are the general thoughts on this?

I don't anticipate quick. We are going to need a heavy majority of the active promotions to weigh in on the polls as well as put in their thoughts on the other issues. That's going to take a few days to sort out. Edit: This is a big part of the reason why I don't care for the constant need for these things. People make plans that have to be changed multiple times. It's not something that we should expect people to deal with on a regular basis.

If it did end up at 32 and 2, LowBlow would have to drop 2 and 1. I imagine they'd be jobbers and the Grand Wizard. Not huge losses either way when you look at it. Since nobody is lining up to take up these promotions there is no saying it would have to happen right now anyway.

I don't disagree with any of this. As much as I would love to have Jake for at least one run it makes a lot of sense.

I agree with that, as do you and Stan. There are more people in this project than us three. The point of this is for people involved to have their voices heard.

Went with your 40-45. If enough people vote for it, that's what we go with.

So there has been a question raised and I don't want it to distract from CWF's thread. Solie now appears to be working for rival factions due to Boon's expansion. Several questions come up. Is Southeastern going to continue running in Georgia or is it going to go dark for a time? Where should Solie go? These are not questions I am prepared or equipped to answer, nor do I have a horse in the race. I just don't want to see the promotion thread derailed.

Okay, the option is there. Any other suggestions on how to structure the poll? Add more definition on the inactivity question with more options? FYI you'll have to delete your vote and revote to answer the third question.

I'm all for a 32 or 34 cap on roster size with two managers. This seems beneficial to the project as a whole. Will try to add that to the original poll. I think the idea of a redraft is going to fall flat with anyone who went through the original draft. Or has a roster they like for their area.

Not big on the redraft idea. That draft took forever and a day. And truth be told, most of my undercard guys don't hold value for anybody besides me, so it's not like I couldn't protect a shit ton of big names.

Like I said, I think it would be best to have those rosters there. But if you could propose a trade with that roster that enough people agreed with I think it ought to be fine.

It's because Boon took over Georgia and Solie was there.

I've been watching a bunch of Memphis lately and I LOVE Savage there as a babyface or heel. One thing I missed when I was younger watching selected WWE Savage is the singular energy he brings to the table. Nobody else quite has the same feel as Randy Savage does. It's one of the things I love about Hansen as well. To bring things back to Savage, I probably noticed it before because I always liked watching him regardless of what he was doing. I just couldn't put it into words in a coherent fashion. He also seems to have a great sense of when to bring the insane, high-energy stuff into a match and when to be more low key.

That seems like a good idea, and I proposed a system that would work hand in hand with that in the poll thread.

I know, I ended up doing that as more of an insurance policy that when I do want to rotate guys out I know for sure I can. Running tag teams it's not quite as easy to bring in the two guys you want for a run as it is getting a singles guy. So I have a few teams out working here and there that can come in and spell somebody when the need arises. They won't all be working in Quebec at any one time. But I also understand that we need to have names available for newer writers to come in and will do what I can to balance out those concerns. Whatever happens I can promise you that I will be fair about things. On the issue of who is the "top 5" I think both you and I, Stan, have discovered that name value isn't always the thing. Fit for a person's style, regional concerns, preference/dislike for certain workers all come into decisions. So putting together a top 5 from any one promotion is going to be really tough to do. I would like to propose the idea that an entire roster would go into this pool and people could request a trade with the free agent pool in the case that they really want this worker or that to come in. That trade would have to be ratified by a certain number of people to go through and it would be up to the majority of us to make sure that value was being traded for value. I understand that we all have different ideas of value, but that seems like it would balance things out if we required, say, 7 people to ratify the trade. Between all of those 7 we would certainly have enough of a consensus that somebody was being put back in who would carry the same kind of weight as the person taken out.

So the idea is that no territories get truly absorbed, just have names thrown into a big list of guys people can pick from coming in? Also, JHawk and myself have merged territories as far as rosters go. I believe the WWA also has CSW territory.

Really great job with Florida so far! Sullivan's army is going to keep growing it seems. Almost looks like Fernandez is on his way out. Can't wait to see the next brackets of the tournament. Also want to know who's life Abby is set to be making miserable.

I've been thinking about doing this for a few days, and now seems like the time to do it. I rescind the Steamboat trade to Southeastern and Boon can keep the Nightmares, if this is something Boon wants. Steamboat, Fernandez, Ole and Robinson can go into whatever pool we decide we make for new writers, if that is the way we go. Mulligan will be traded to JCP for Brad Rheingans. I still intend to find a way to make a deal for Jake the Snake, it can involve two, three or four other promotions if need be, but that is something I want to do. The idea I have for him is just too much fun. If one of the four wrestlers above who would be going into the pool can free up somebody Boon will take for Jake, consider it a done deal.

Discussion about what constitutes inactivity is something that we should deal with in the thread. I tend to agree that leaving something for new writers is necessary. I just don't want to take the option away from people to absorb another territory when I have already done that. As for taking the top 5 workers off a territory and putting them somewhere, this is an interesting idea. But who are the top 5 workers? It could be argued that Leo Burke and Backlund would be on that list for IWF. Something like that is subjective both to personal tastes and geography. I'd like to see roster flexibility for people coming in, but I also think there are those who feel like fresh talent out of drop-outs is a shot in the arm. There needs to be some way of balancing this out.

There's been a lot of argument over this and I understand that it's a hard thing to deal with. This whole thing has changed by a whole lot over the last month and it's not going to be easy to deal with regardless of how you look at it. There are a lot of things that need to be decided, both in terms of participation and how everything is distributed once the dust clears. So I made polls for us to do it democratically. My feeling on the first is that people who have gotten mergers should abstain from voting as it seems like we have gotten the treasure trove and it ought to be up to those who have not if they get the same. After these things are settled, I think it would be good to talk about how all of the territory from IWF and Stampede will be parceled out. I will be the first to say I want none of it. Quebec, the Maritimes and Ottawa are enough for me forever and that's the way it stays. I think this is the most civil and the best way of deciding some tough questions that there are strong feelings on. Majority rules and we go with that regardless. There has to be a clear direction and I think this is the only way. As suggested in the other topic we need to also define inactivity.