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International Wrestling 7/15/83 (taped 7/13/83 in the Paul Sauve Arena, Montreal, Quebec) 3,200 fans 0 - 14:30 Opening/1st Match The opening montage leads once again to Jacques, Rougeau, Sr. This time he is in the backstage interview area in front of the International Wrestling Association banner. Captain Lou Albano, looking very unhappy, shuffles into frame with no Tongan terrors in tow. Rougeau, Sr.: Mr. Albano, how do you feel about the decision handed down by none other than Frank Valois himself that the Tongan Terrors were banned from the arena for tonight’s show? Albano: How do you think I feel about it, Rougeau? This is a travesty and exactly the kind of thing that caused what happened last week. My monsters are very passionate men and their anger got the better of them. What do you think- Rougeau, Sr.: Excuse me, Mr. Albano, but you were the one who was directing traffic last week. Albano: I thought I told you never to interrupt me, Rougeau! Rougeau, Sr.: I wrestled for many years, Mr. Albano. If you think you are going to intimidate me you are dead wrong. Albano: I’m sorry, I was out of line. As I was saying, my monsters are very passionate and difficult to control. You can’t expect me to be able to keep this kind of thing from happening. Rougeau, Sr.: I expected this kind of response from you and had a video montage of last week prepared. Clips of Albano ordering the Tongan Terrors to attack other wrestlers are shown followed by Albano’s comments to the effect that they are his monsters and he controls them. The camera cuts back to Albano, looking both enraged and a little scared with Jacques, Sr. Albano: I was a little angry myself. I can promise you that we will never disrupt an entire show like that again. We’ve learned our lesson Mr. Rougeau. Rougeau, Sr.: I’d like to say I believe you, Mr. Albano, but- Albano snatches the microphone from Rougeau. Albano: And I’d like to tell everyone watching that Jim Brunzell has NOT gotten any kind of reprieve. He will pay next week for causing all of this! Albano tosses the microphone at Rougeau’s feet and glares at the retired wrestler before stalking away. The camera cuts to the ring as Tony Ricco comes out to a mild reaction. Richard Charland is booed, but not overly loudly. Tony Ricco vs. Richard Charland Ricco and Charland feel each other out with basic exchanges, Ricco getting the better of things and working an arm. Charland goes to the hair several times before raking the eyes to take control. Charland cuts off Ricco comebacks with eye gouges before getting cocky and slapping Ricco around. Ricco fires up and makes a comeback, but Dan Johnson runs out to ringside. Referee Adrian Desbois turns his attention to clearing Johnson away from ringside, allowing Charland to hit a low blow. Charland’s piledriver finisher is enough to get the three count. Richard Charland over Tony Ricco by pinfall with a piledriver 9:28 Jacques Rougeau, Sr. Talks about the next match before the commercial break. Commercial Break (14:30 - 27:30) Mad Dog Lefebvre is approaching the ring to boos when we come back from commercial. Armand Rougeaus gets a very good reaction from the crowd as he heads to the ring. Lefebvre ambushes Rougeau as he enters the ring and the match is off to a hot start! Armand Rougeau vs. Mad Dog Lefebvre Armand was taking the worst of it at first, but he fired up and came back strong with right hands. A crossbody put Armand firmly in charge and he hammered away with right hands. Lefebvre went to the floor for a break, but Armand followed him out. Lefebvre reversed a whip into the rail as they brawled around ringside and started pounding away on Armand again. The two fought tooth and nail, but Lefebvre eventually gained enough of an advantage to set Rougeau up for his second rope superplex. Armand recovered and hit a few short punches to the face to send Lefebvre stumbling down to the mat. Rougeau lept off the top into a sunset flip for the three. Armand Rougeau over Mad Dog Lefebvre by pinfall with a flying sunset flip 10:49 Jacques Rougeau, Sr. talks about the final two matches on the card before the break. Commercial Break 27:30 - 42:30 he card tonight before the break.Jacques and Raymond Rougeau come out to a tremendous reaction. Jim Brunzell and Phil Lafon come to the ring and get a lot of cheers, especially after the Rougeaus start clapping and encouraging the fans to do the same. The Fabulous Rougeau Brothers vs. Jim Brunzell and Phil Lafon Both teams came out fast and furious, working to find an advantage. After a lot of fast chain wrestling and counters the Rougeaus were able to work on Lafon for a while, but the youngster was able to kick his way out of trouble and tag Brunzell. More furious back and forth action followed. Eventually the Rougeaus wore down both Lafon and Brunzell enough to set up a Raymond sleeper on Lafon. Lafon just barely made the ropes and Raymond set Lafon up in a Quebec crab after tagging in Jacques. Jacques flew off the top with a knee drop and covered for the three while Raymond held off Brunzell. After the match the Rougeaus shook hands with Brunzell and Lafon before holding up the arms of the defeated tag team. Jacques Rougeau over Phil Lafon by pinfall after a Quebec crab/flying knee drop combination 13:16 Commercial break with upcoming events promoted July 16th, Paul Sauve Arena, Montreal, Quebec Gino Brito & Tony Parisi vs. The Fabulous Rougeau Brothers Mad Dog Lefebvre vs. Armand Rougeau Gilles "The Fish" Poisson vs. "The Farmer" Louis Laurence July 19th, Colisée de Saint-Jean, Saint-Jean-Sur-Richelieu, Quebec The Fabulous Rougeau Brothers vs. The Midnight Express & Mad Dog Lefebvre Rene Goulet vs. Tonga John Phil Lafon, Jim Brunzell and Tony Parisi on the card. July 20th, Paul Sauve Arena, Montreal, Quebec Stan Hansen vs. Gino Brito Jim Brunzell & Phil Lafon vs. The British Bulldogs Armand Rougeau, Rene Goulet & Dave Kochen vs. Mad Dog Lefebvre, Gilles Poisson & Richard Charland Dan Johnson vs. Louis Laurence (42:30 - 45:30) Jacques, Sr. is in the interview area as Eddie Creatchman and the Midnight Express casually stroll in. The Midnights look ready for action. Jacques, Sr.: Eddie Creatchman and the Midnight Express, you were the only ones not victims of the brutal attack by the Tongan terrors last week. How do we know you weren’t in on it? Creatchman: You never did like me, Rougeau. You think I had anything to do with that? Of course you do. Anyone with half a brain knows that we were not involved. Jacques, Sr.: I don’t believe that for a second, Eddie Creatchman. But that’s not what we’re here to talk about. You said that you had something to say regarding my boys? Creatchman: I do and I would appreciate you not taking up my time with your conspiracy theories in the future. You see, these men came within a hair’s breadth of being the Canadian International Tag Team champs a few weeks ago and there’s another big show coming up on the 30th in the Montreal Forum. It is our considered opinion that we are the natural challengers for the titles. Jacques, Sr.: I think you may be the only three men who have that opinion. Regardless that’s up to Frank Valois to decide. Creatchman: You would think like that, Rougeau. But we will prove that we are the number one contenders. You give us any tag team besides the Rougeaus and we will make good. So why don’t you just slink back to- Creatchman is cut off by the appearance of Gino Brito and Tony Parisi, also in their ring gear. Brito walks over to Rougeau, Sr. and a standoff between the two tag teams ensues. Jacques, Sr.: We will not have a brawl here, gentlemen. You will keep your tempers. Brito: We have a match whenever Creatchman gets done talking. The Midnight Express lost their match for the titles, now it’s our turn. Nothing their mouthpiece spews out can change that. Creatchman: Tonight you find out what real wrestlers are, Gino Brito! Too long you’ve skated by on your reputation. That ends tonight. But a six-man match doesn’t prove anything. It’s only fair that you have to fight for your title shot. In two weeks you two against the Midnight Express to decide who faces the Rougeaus on the 30th. Brito: You’re on Creatchman, and don’t think you can weasel your way out of this when you lose! Both teams leave in opposite directions as we go to commercial. Commercial Break (45:30 - 60:00) Gino Brito, Tony Parisi and Louis Laurence are already in the ring, playing to the crowd as the Midnight Express, with Creatchman in tow, and Dan Johnson make their way to the ring to boos. Gino Brito, Tony Parisi, & Louis Laurence vs. The Midnight Express & Dan Johnson Brito and Parisi both started hot against Condrey and Rose. Laurence and Johnson went back and forth. Brito and Condrey had an intense brawl, very likely the result of Condrey’s sneak attack on Brito last week. Parisi was brought in after Brito took control and fell victim to several punches to the gut, one to the face and a neckbreaker to swing momentum Condrey’s way. The Midnights and Johnson cut off the ring and worked Parisi over. Laurence took the tag and came in on fire, Brito tagging in soon after and doing the same. Condrey and Rose tried saving Johnson as Brito and Laurence took turns attacking him, but Brito was fired up and not letting them get control back. Brito tagged in Parisi and hit a side suplex on Johnson, staying in the ring to slow down the Midnights as Parisi came off the top with a senton to finish Johnson. The crowd went nuts as Brito, Parisi and Laurence celebrated. The Midnights tried to attack the faces after the match, but Brito and Parisi were ready for them and they had to retreat, dragging a groggy Johnson to the back with them. Parisi over Johnson by pinfall after a combination side suplex/flying senton 13:26 Dark matches: Pre-show Dave Kochen defeated Bobby Kay with an abdominal stretch Gilles Poisson defeated Alex Gerrard with a bearhug
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International Wrestling 7/8/83 (taped 7/6/83 in the Paul Suave Arena, Montreal, Quebec) Opening/1st match (0:00 - 10:00) The show opens with a montage of the Rougeaus, Brito/Parisi, Armand Rougeau, Gilles Poisson, Mad Dog Lefebvre, Louis Laurence and Richard Charland followed by the International Wrestling Association logo before cutting to Jacques Rougeau, Sr. in the ring. Jacques, Sr.: Welcome fans to International Wrestling on Friday Night. We have a great show for you tonight that features some of the new faces you'll be seeing plenty of over the next few months- Rougeau is cut off by a very loud round of boos from the fans and turns to the entranceway. Captain Lou Albano, Tonga John (in plain short tights with no boots or pads) and King Tonga (in loos long pants with no boots or pads) come to the ring with a few pieces of garbage thrown their way. Rougeau waits patiently for the trio to enter the ring before addressing Albano. Jacques, Sr.: It doesn't seem like the fans here in the Paul Suave Arena are very happy to see you and your charges, Mr. Albano. Albano: Good for them. Let me tell you a story, Rougeau. I came in here and the first two people I met were two poor Tongan wrestlers who had been denied a chance to prove themselves by Frank Valois and his goons for no good rea- Jacques, Sr.:They beat up a man for no- Albano snatches the microphone from Rougeau. Albano: These two men have beat up a lot of people, Rougeau. And if you interrupt me again they are gonna add one more to that number. These men deserved a chance at those titles and now they feel wronged. These men, no, not men. These are monsters. It didn't have to be this way, but nothing can change that now. These monsters are going to show you, Frank Valois, the fans and the other wrestlers that they will not be denied a chance at gold. The man who is responsible for this is not here tonight and that's a shame. Now everyone has to pay. Every action has consequences and Frank Valois will see tonight the consequences of his actions last Saturday. Bobby and Rudy Kay emerge from the back as Albano exits the ring and the Tongan wrestlers proceed to attack them before they even start entering the ring. King Tonga/Tonga John against Bobby & Rudy Kay The Tongan wrestlers dominate this from the start to finish, King Tonga showing off his kicks and headbutts before Bobby Kay walks into a savate kick from King Tonga. Tonga John climbs the top rope and hits a diving headbutt to put Kay away. The Tongans continue the assault, clubbering and stomping both of their fallen foes until the commercial break. King Tonga/Tonga John by pinfall with a combination savate kick/diving headbutt 4:19 Commercial Break (10:00 - 20:00) The Tongan wrestlers are being dragged from ringside by several security officers, referees and wrestlers from the back. They make several attempts to get back to the ring only to be driven back by superior numbers. Randy Rose makes his way to the ring to loud boos. Tim Gerrard gets little to no reaction, but some of the crowd seem to want to cheer him. Randy Rose vs. Tim Gerrard Rose dominated from the get-go, but Gerrard got in a quick comeback before Rose hit a side suplex after several punches. Rose locked in a crab, but the plucky Gerrard made the ropes. Rose had enough and picked Gerrard up before climbing to the second turnbuckle and hitting a powerslam for the win. Rose over Gerrard by pinfall with a second rope powerslam at 5:48 Rose was out of the ring quickly following his victory, leaving only the battered Gerrard to get beaten by King Tonga and Tonga John as they crashed the ring, Albano pointing at the downed Gerrard. Gerrards brother and tag partner Alex came out for the save but is immediately overwhelmed. The scene going to commercial break #2 is very similar to the first. Commercial Break (20:00 - 36:30) The Tongans were once again being herded to the back with no sign of Albano. The camera cuts to Albano in the back with a microphone in the backstage interview area. Albano: I told you these men are monsters. Not just monsters, terrors! Nobody in the arena is safe! The scuffle of King Tonga and Tonga John being escorted to the back breaks into the shot. Albano says a few words to his wrestlers and they stop fighting to get back to the ring. The assorted personnel wrestling the Tongans away from the ring warily back away before returning to whatever they were doing. Albano: Frank Valois will regret the day he decided to leave my terrors out of the tag tournament. I give to you, ladies and gentlemen, the future Canadian International Tag Team champs, the Tongan Terrors! You will be afraid of them, I can guarantee you that. These monsters are large, strong, agile, ANGRY men who want nothing more than what they deserve. They will get it. The camera cuts back to the ring after Albano and the newly named Tongan Terrors walk away. All three Rougeau brothers walk to the ring to massive cheers from the crowd. Mad Dog Lefebvre, Gilles Poisson and Richard Charland emerge as their opponents to boos. The Fabulous Rougeau Brothers vs. Mad Dog Lefebvre, Gilles Poisson & Richard Charland The Rougeaus were able to dominate the early going much to the crowd's delight. Poisson used a handful of Armand Rougeau's hair off of a rope break to bludgeon the least experienced Rougeau with a few big forearms. The heels worked Armand over until he fired up and overcame Charland with rapid fire right hands. Raymond took the hot tag and cleaned house before getting in an intense brawl with Lefebvre. The Rugeaus looked ready to put the match away when the Tongan terrors again hit the ring, Albano pointing out Armand Rougeau and Charland as targets. This time they were driven back after the initial surprise as all six men in the ring banded together to clear them out. No Contest due to interference at 12:25 Commercial Break with Upcoming Show Advertisements July 9th at Paul Suave Arena, Montreal Quebec Gino Brito against King Tonga Phil Lafon, Jim Brunzell and Tony Parisi against Mad Dog Lefebvre, Gilles Poisson and Tonga John Armand Rougeau will be in action! July 12th at Gatineau, Quebec The Fabulous Rougeau Brothers against The Midnight Express & Mad Dog Lefebvre Rene Goulet against Tonga John July 13th at Paul Suave Arena, Montreal, Quebec The Midnight Express and Dan Johnson against Gino Brito, Tony Parisi and Louis Laurence The Fabulous Rougeau Brothers against Phil Lafon and Jim Brunzell Armand Rougeau against Mad Dog Lefebvre (36:30 - 57:00) Albano and the Tongan Terrors are in the interview area in back when we return from break. Albano: You can't say I didn't warn you. I told you everyone was gonna pay and they have. I also told you that these guys are monsters and they are. Not only that, they are MY monsters. When I tell them to destroy someone, they do it. When I tell them to stop, they stop. That means you won't be seeing a whole lot out of anyone besides my monsters, because I don't plan on stopping anytime soon. You may as well get used to this fans, because I can guarantee you'll be seeing a lot of it. Jim Brunzell is not here tonight, but I can be patient when I need to be. Next week we get our hands on Brunzell and he pays very personally for what he did! Dennis Condrey comes to the ring greeted by heavy boos from the fans. Gino Brito gets a really big pop and the crowd is buzzing for the main event. Dennis Condrey vs. Gino Brito The match started out with Brito working over an arm and Condrey coming back with a mixture of brawling and headlocks and chinlocks. Brito started brawling as well, uncorking big right hands. Condrey came back with more brawling, but Brito will not to be denied. Brito gets a few nearfalls before Condrey ducks a right hand and hits a back elbow that staggers Brito into the corner. Right hands by Condrey leave Brito in bad shape and Condrey drapes him over the middle rope, bounces off the far ropes and sits down across his upper back. A clothesline in the center of the ring by Condrey sets him up for a big running leg drop that nearly put Brito away. The crowd give Brito and Condrey plenty of notice that the Tongan Terrors were coming and Condrey bailed. Brito iss waiting on the Tongans to attack when Condrey slides into the ring from behind and nails him with a few forearms to the back before hitting a full nelson facebuster. Condrey again bailed and left ringside as Albano signals to the Terrors it was time to attack. The Tongans go to work on Brito, which brings out his tag partner Tony Parisi. Parisi has some success, but it is short lived as King Tonga caught him with a savate kick while he was focused on Tonga John. The Tongans continue their assault while the fans throw garbage into the ring at them. The Rougeaus sprint down to ringside and chase the Tongans off to end the show. Gino Brito wins by DQ when the Tongan terrors interfere at 17:22 Dark Matches: pre-show Tony Ricco vs. Simon Dupree was a no contest when Tonga John & King Tonga attacked both. Louis Laurence vs. Dan Johnson was a no contest when Tonga John & King Tonga attacked both.
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The first few topics here will be re-posts. I'm going to keep my TV results in one thread and house show results in the other. 7/2/83 at the Montreal Forum (14,500) The show opened with Jacques Rougeau, Sr. explaining that King Tonga and Tonga John would not be participating in the tournament based on their actions towards Jim Brunzell. "That kind of behavior will not be tolerated in the International Wrestling Association," warned Rougeau. Jim Brunzell/Phil Lafon over Sgt. Slaughter/Mad Dog Lefebvre by DQ 11:14 Brunzell and Lafon started hot, but the veteran Slaughter took the advantage after going to the eyes and booting Lafon in the stomach several times. Lafon got worked over for a while, with Slaughter several times taking shortcuts to keep the advantage. The tag to Brunzell got a good reaction and he cleaned house on both of his opponents. A Brunzell dropkick to Lefebvre looked like Slaughter was too far away to make the save, but Slaughter kicked the ref in the head instead. Post-match the heels continued the assault and Slaughter produced a pair of brass knuckles that he bloodied Lafon with. The Midnight Express over Armand Rougeau/Rene Goulet by pinfall 10:26 Prior to the match Eddie Creatchman walked out to the ring and addressed the crowd. "The fans here in Montreal make me sick. They cheer Gino Brito and the Rougeaus. There's a reason Brito and the Rougeaus stay here. Nobody else wants them. They get by on their names around here andthat has to end. A couple of guys backstage had never heard of the Rougeaus or Brito before and I had a long conversation with them. We agreed that tonight, if nobody beat us to it, we would expose the Rougeaus and Brito for what they truly are." The Midnight Express walked out to the ring and shook hands with Creatchman, already getting a lot of boos from the crowd. Armand and Goulet came out to big cheers. Armand was fired up and got the better of Rose for a very short time, mostly with right hands. Rose reversed a corner whip and hit a running back elbow into the corner. The Midnights worked the youngest Rougeau over, trying to goad Goulet into helping. The longtime veteran held his ground and patiently waited for his young teammate to make the tag, all the while urging Armand on. The tag came and it looked like Rougeau and Goulet were close to a submission victory on Condrey with an Armand sleeper, but Rose broke that up and cleared Goulet out of the ring, allowing Condrey to finish Armand with a full nelson facebuster. The British Bulldogs over The Cuban Assassins by pinfall 11:48 The Bulldogs were clearly the fan favorites early and used their cutting edge style to great effect. The Assassins stalled several times, irritating the crowd. Davey fell victim to a double team in a neutral corner that set up the Assassins for a lengthy beatdown, mostly hair-pulling, eye gouging, tights-grabbing, choking and illegal double teams. Dynamite was hot on the apron, which caused several lengthy distractions the Assassins took full advantage of. Davey finally came back, catching Starr in a big overhead press slam and tagged Dynamite. Dynamite cleaned house and the Bulldogs unleashed double teams on both of their opponents much to the crowd's delight. The Assassins weren't done yet, the Cuban Assassin rolling Dynamite up and putting his feet on the ropes for leverage for a very close two count with Davey making the save. Davey tossed Dynamite into a body press of the top on Starr for the win. The Fabulous Rougeau Brothers over Gino Brito/Tony Parisi by submission 13:38 The match was a very even, technical affair. Brito and the Rougeaus were evenly matched, with Parisi often the victim of short quick-tag sequences by the Rougeaus. The mat wrestling worked into a few slams and suplexes before the Rougeaus isolated Parisi, hit a double suplex off the second rope and Jacques applied the Quebec crab for the win. The Midnight Express (with Eddie Creatchman) over Lafon/Brunzell by pinfall 9:25 Before the match, Creatchman talked in the ring about how the Midnights had already beaten one of the Rougeaus and the other two would be next. Lafon and Brunzell, visibly upset at being overlooked, attacked the Midnights before the bell to a big pop. The Midnights made several attempts at attacking Lafon's cut before Rose grabbed an armbar, put Lafon on the mat and started punching his forehead. Lafon took a quick but brutal beating before landing a big spinkick and tagging Brunzell. Brunzell held off the Midnights for a while, but Lafon was unable to help and the tide turned. Condrey set Rose up for a second rope powerslam to get the three. The Fabulous Rougeau Brothers over the British Bulldogs by pinfall 10:10 The match was back and forth action all the way through, with Jacques showing his athleticism and both teams busting out double teams when they were in control. Davey Boy hit a running powerslam on Jacques only to have Raymond break it up just before Dynamite could stop him. Jacques reversed a rollup (the third in sequence) to pin Dynamite. Rick Martel over Dino Bravo to retain the NWA Canadian Heavyweight Championship by pinfall 26:04 Martel and Bravo were both greeted with loud cheers and fought over basic holds in the early going. Bravo finally got control and began working over Martel's back. Martel countered by going after Bravo's arm and working on it for a long while. Things got a little heated when Martel didn't break for the ropes until the referee's three count and right hands started flying. A dropkick by Martel sent Bravo to the floor. Bravo fought his way out of an attempted suplex into the ring by Martel and dragged Martel to the floor in what almost turned into a double countout. Back in the ring Bravo hit a drokick and got a few close nearfalls on Martel before the champ started focusing on his back. Bravo had the airplane spin on Martel, but the champ was just close enough to grab the ropes. Bravo made it to the ropes on the Quebec crab and it looked like a stalemate. Bravo looked for a belly to back suplex, but Martel went behind and rolled Bravo up when the challenger went to the ropes, bridging back for the three. The two shook hands post-match and Martel celebrated with his NWA Canadian title. The Fabulous Rougeau Brothers over the Midnight Express (with Eddie Creatchman) by pinfall to win the Canadian International Tag Team Titles 9:46 Creatchman and the Midnights came out first, Creatchman predicting the fall of the Rougeau dynasty. The Rougeaus rushed the ring and a two on two brawl started the match. Things settled down and the Rougeaus got the better of Condrey for a while. Raymond got caught with a few Condrey right hands and seemed ripe for the picking. Rose hit a second rope powerslam that Condrey followed with a big running leg drop, but Jacques interrupted the pinfall attempt. Raymond had to battle his way through Condrey and Rose with right hands to tag in Jacques, who came in on fire. Jacques cleared Rose out of the ring and the Rougeaus double teamed Condrey. Rose was sent right back off the apron when he tried to get back in the fray. Raymond locked in a Quebec crab as the illegal man and Jacques climbed to the top rope and came crashing down with a knee drop to Condrey's back to put the Midnights away. Creatchman was fuming mad post-match, screaming at the ref about the double teaming done by the Rougeaus. The Rougeaus, meanwhile, were displaying their new hardware to the appreciation of 14,000+ fans.
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Eh, he likes poking Parv to see if he can make him mad. There's a very simple solution to that problem. Speaking of Parv, I think that while he can come off a little overbearing with the way he deals with Andre I agree with it. I think that same approach should be applied to Hansen, Brody and Abdullah. The reason Andre (and to a slightly lesser degree the other 3) was such a big boost when he showed up was very simply because he was viewed as unbeatable and him showing up was a huge deal because you wanted to see if your big star could beat him. Once he starts taking losses on spot shows to get guys over he loses all of his appeal. The reason you bring those guys in is to boost gates, not take falls for your main eventers. Once you start jobbing them out they no longer pop a big gate for you. The screwjob finish or pinfall your big name has to take is the price you pay.
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I'm 99% sure that if you want Mid South it's yours unless rainmaker wants it. My feeling would be that he was an assistant first and therefore would have first dibs. Failing that, I don't see why it wouldn't be yours. I'm not sure where Matt D falls on this one, which would be the wild card.
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Yeah I'm doing a slow burn so far on my big feud for that reason. I want the final Midnights vs. Rougeaus match to be the big one. I'm more willing to go a little farther with the Can Ams and Tongans earlier to help them get established as a big deal, but I can't see giving away the big one for the first year too quickly.
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The Wade Smeltzer Flaming Spectator Newsletter Issue #2
dawho5 replied to goodhelmet's topic in The Archives
I like the changes to your TV, personally. Great stuff on the newsletter! The Muraco stuff was awesome. The little digs here and there crack me up. I think we definitely need more titles. -
Didn't Brody and Hansen refuse to do that because of the magazine photographers?
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I think it should be up to the person who has the dates listed because they are on the other end of the deal to communicate with the person who takes over in this case. It's not renegotiating, it's just common sense that you let the person know that there was an agreement in place for wrestler(s) to be with you on certain dates. I'm guessing that most will be pretty flexible as far as letting their guys go wherever on one shot dates and the like. It may take some discussion on extended stays, but booking around guys being gone for a day or two isn't superbly hard.
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I am still a bit miffed by all the clean jobs Hansen and Brody are doing. A big part of their appeal was the fact that they didn't lose and could be treated as special attractions. If they are constantly taking pinfalls they become a regular face or heel coming through the promotion and have no effect on the gates.
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Yeah, so it works into the story perfectly. If it is ignored going forward the finish becomes so-so instead of good.
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Loved the main event! The two tag matches before it were good, but that main was all kinds of great!
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Georgia Championship Wrestling Cards & Results Thread
dawho5 replied to KrisZ's topic in The Archives
Greg Gagne searching for a new partner is a fun storyline. I like how Gagne is referencing a different feud to Jaggers as if he pays attention to what else goes on in the promotion. That's a huge part of what's missing in modern WWE. -
It's a screwy finish, but it's the 80s. The way 80s feuds progressed and made the fans want more was usually screwy finishes or heel wins/attacks after being rolled up, etc., so there's really not a ton of directions to go. I think it's acceptable to have a good amount of screwy finishes as long as they pay off in the end and you don't overdo it in the meantime.
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I'm already in line at the Coliseum. never mind that I should be on tour way up north. Looking forward to the tag titles match.
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I can see the longer matches with the talent he has. The shorter matches had to have something to do with the caliber of the wrestlers involved.
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I have all my loan out dates listed in a file. I have it open whenever I am booking.
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July 26th, Palais des Sports, Sherbrooke, Quebec (3,200) Louis Laurence and Tony Ricco defeated the Gerrard Brothers with a wishbone snap followed by a Laurence single leg crab on Tim Gerrard King Tonga defeated Rudy Kay with a savate kick Armand Rougeau defeated Dan Johnson with a sleeper Rene Goulet defeated Tonga John with a schoolboy and escaped the ring quickly to avoid punishment The Midnight Express and Mad Dog Lefebvre defeated The Fabulous Rougeau Brothers and Armand Rougeau when the Midnight Express set up Armand Rougeau for a second rope superplex by Lefebvre Yeah, but the thing about being a touring promotion before the internet era is you can do very similar six-man tags in every town without really killing the match. Each town gets a look at a running feud in not-quite exactly how you want to see it form. Then we put some teasers for the big match on TV in hopes that folks come out from the towns within a few hours to the Forum show. I'm considering running bigger cards in the towns 4+ hours out of Montreal at some point just to give them a good show now and again. As far as taping, all big events in the Montreal Forum and the top two matches on each card will be taped. One reason I like Montreal as a background is I can run workrate face vs. face tag matches, more evenly matched face vs. heel matches without the traditional southern structure, etc. and mix up matches on shows without killing the match because the crowd wants a certain kind of tag match.
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Pass. And there should be no limit at all on passing. If you don't want anybody you don't need to pick.
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OK, I think I figured out a solution for the territory takeover crisis
dawho5 replied to goodhelmet's topic in The Archives
I stand by wanting to pair off with WWC. We have I think five total talent deals in place and we're less than a month in. I would guess Boricua would also like some insurance that in case I drop out he's got the guys he's booking. If we go with the diagram that's not something I'm going to push too hard on, just suggesting that people who have heavy talent trades with one other promotion might like the idea of pairing up. -
To my knowledge Buddy Lane = Dave Kochen. Did I miss the boat on this one?
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I'll be gone until Sunday evening. I'll probably get my show up for that day, but later than usual. And I'll get to read the Smeltzer report! Have a great weekend all!
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I like trying to bait the Super Russian into talking a lot. Given the build to the Canada vs. USA setup I'm guessing this isn't going to end on Tuesday. Should bring in the fans for sure, especially once Flair and co. get the upper hand. Also, Terry Gordy as the ladies' man is great. I can just see him challenging Martel after Flair is done because he figures he already gets more women, so why shouldn't he be the champ to go along with it?
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Yeah, wait til 84 at least.
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1-2-3 KyxxX-Pac. get it right damn you!