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Bossman wasn't black.

Where is this info from?

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You are confusing race with religion. You are confusing race with nationality. When did you become a member of Code Pink?

I was with you right up until the last line... as if politics have never determined which substances were legal or illegal... only the moral compasses of righteous lawmakers.

One of my old bosses said it best... you are what your daddy is. Rock's black.

This shit fucked me up as a kid.... http://ringpsychology.files.wordpress.com/...w=355&h=480

Matches we have nominated for the 1980s project... Barry Windham vs. Ron Bass (Florida) Barry Windham vs. Harley Race (Florida) Ric Flair vs. Barry Windham (2/14/86) Barry Windham & Ron Garvin vs. Midnight Express (TV 12/86) Ric Flair vs. Barry Windham (1/20/87) Ron Garvin & Barry Windham vs. Dick Murdoch & Ivan Koloff (TV 3/87) Ric Flair vs. Barry Windham (Crockett Cup 4/11/87) Midnight Express vs. Barry Windham & Ron Garvin (TV 5/16/87) Midnight Express vs. Barry Windham & Ron Garvin (Pittsburgh 7/10/87) Tully Blanchard vs. Barry Windham (July 87) Barry Windham vs. Lex Luger (September 87) Barry Windham vs. Arn Anderson (September 87) Lex Luger & Barry Windham vs. Arn Anderson & Tully Blanchard (Clash 3/27/88) Lex Luger, Dr. Death & Nikita Koloff vs. Ric Flair, Barry Windham & Arn Anderson (Houston 6/10/88) Barry Windham vs. Dusty Rhodes (GAB 7/10/88) Sting vs. Barry Windham (Clash 9/7/88) Midnight Express vs. Ric Flair & Barry Windham (Clash 12/7/88) Barry Windham vs. Bam Bam Bigelow (Starrcade 12/26/88) Barry Windham vs. Lex Luger (Chi-Town Rumble 2/20/89) I don't see his heel change tag with Luger on here but that will be nominated. He also had the fun singles against Dick Murdoch on the WWF set that ranked very well. There will be tons of Barry on the NWA set when all is said and done.

Man, watched a ton of stuff for the 1980s NWA poll and I think the "bad kicks" maybe crossed my mind a time or two out of a couple dozen + matches. What a weird thing to be fixated on.

Oh god, what are you talking about?

All these one liners are hurting my head. Elaborate for us ignorant folk.

I might have to change my name to "Puts foot in mouth". Anyway, where did this idea that Tenryu had a shiity enziguiri come from? From watching the footage, it doesn't come across that way at all. Bad talking point.

That might have a little to do with it but it was mainly racism. The blacks that did get in were either savages or shucking n' jiving. They weren't exactly encouraged to work main event style... whatever that means.

A few things. Stan Lane ruled... People see the bow-ties and homo-erotic wrokout videos and think of the Fabs as a finesse team when really, they were fucking brawlers who could brawl with the best of them and abuse an opponent until it feels like a squash match. The videos made them appeal to the ladies but the work in the ring was manly man shit. In the MX, he played his role fine and for the time, the "kicks" really made him stand out but they have too many good tags in both a brawl setting (Fabs match) and technical setting (Fabs match ) for him to be dismissed as a shitty wrestler. Dennis Condrey... There is less footage of Dennis Condrey but there is footage of him with Bobby, Norvell AND Randy Rose that bolsters his case as someone who could work with multiple tag partners and have good matches with each of them. The only issue may be that he was always a heel but reading the thread, that doesn't seem to be a knock against anyone. I am revoking both Childs and Dylan's Portland pass. I drop Buddy Rose and neither one jumped on it. That's just fucked up.

Eh, at least you got the topic off futbol.

No shit! It's probably even less now!

When we start discussing soccer and weekend passes.

Even I am bored with the current Spurs team. Doesn't change the fact that soccer is boring.

Don't think I saw him mentioned but Buddy Rose was a great tag wrestler as well. HAd great runs with Wiskowski, Oliver and Somers.

Soccer is so boring.

I think calling the Shotay a slap misses the point that it is a palm strike. Having said that, if Lyger didn't execute it properly and it looks like a slap, I can see the problem. Palm strike... pretty devastating. Slap... takes down Tough Enough winners. On that point, one of the worst finishers I remember as a kid was the RNR Express double dropkick. So many times, one of them would not connect with whatever jobber they threw out there and on a few occasions, neither would connect with the guy. When both guys did connect, great move, but it happened like 20% of the time. What made it worse was that they would show the ending in slow motion replay exposing the move.

I am glad there is interest in SMW since the SMW project should be released right after the ECW set has its run.

I think the topic framed by the athletic peak is bad for discussion and ultimately meaningless. Jerry Lawler is way past his prime yet is still having good matches at 60. Since wrestling is performance, it would probably be better to compare the wrestlers to other performers like dancers or singers. As for Dibiase, in 1985, he was one of the best brawlers in the world. In 1993, he was stuck in a tag team that didn't brawl, didn't bleed, and was stuck in a boring tag team gimmick. He'll, would you even say that Money Inc. Was really evil? Or just annoying?