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Mask-on-a-pole match anyone ?

You realize these are not the same people at all, right ? It would be nice if people stopped talking about current IMPACT like it was still the same company that existed under Dixie/Russo. Case in point, they just cut the biggest star they made over the last 2 years because she wasn't worth the headache (although her contract was probably close to running out I believe). I wonder if the #SpeakingOut movement also played a part, with rumours of bullying she had to her name previously. Crazy that she would act like such an asshole when IMPACT took her when no one else would and pushed her to the moon, having her win their World Title ! I was a huge fan of her work (and probably would still be if I saw matches of hers), but man, what a piss poor person... Yeah, following that one, no idea how she rebounds, because IMPACT is the perfect "under the radar" promotion to rebuild yourself. People mentioned Tully, but Brian Cage actually is one of her best friend (or was, dunno). As a talent, her in AEW would be awesome because she's that good, but I don't think AEW would touch her now. I guess stuck in AAA or something.

Summerslam - No Social Distancing Allowed !

Hey, I agree the people who do not make any efforts are also taking risks that can hurt other people. I was angry at people doing the same thing in France during the quarantine. (Peyton Royce and Shawn Spears are married, right ?) My point was about WWE as a whole. I mean, it's just been pilling on and on and on with godawful decisions one after the other during this crisis. Very much underlining of their entire outlook.

Piss poor excuse. For whatever numbers of people not taking care of themselves, there are all the others. And as far as taking the decision to not come, it's absolutely not the same deal for everyone. A few can do it and not expect repercussions. And really, the company has to be accounted responsible for their policy. And their policy was "COVID is a work, don't wear mask, let's drag 70 years old Ric Flair on TV" etc etc... WWE is rotten to the core as a company. Vince deserves to catch the fucking COVID, really. BTW, any news on decision taken after #SPeakingOut ? Yeah, nothing on that front either apart from firing Gallagher. Fuck them seven ways to Sunday.

"Our leader". I hope they have Brodie Lee be called that way too. So, social responsibility to put the fans first BUT WITHOUT MASKS GODDAMNIT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T LOOK GOOD ON TV ! And our employ independant contractors can fuck off because it's their dream to work for the WWE Universe. Grab the brass ring and make the most out of your opportunity. Dick pics notwithstanding. Really now ? Who ARE these people. I mean, we always knew WWE is a pit, but this year particulary with the COVID thing really exposes them in a context that has touched the entire planet and in which they can be compared with pretty much anybody else as complete, utter pieces of shit without an ounce of empathy, dignity and self-respect. They are the worst of the worst. The way Vince crooks, it'll be funny to see all those crocodile tears for that poor excuse for a human being. I have honestly no idea why anyone still supports them and want to work for them at this point. They are such godawful people.

You are underestimating the capacity predators (and other assholes of that ilk) have to hide their true selves from even the closest people. Meltz reported that the Joey Ryan thing sent waves of shock and stupefaction. The worst when you really think of it is like, ok, there are 16 accusations. Which means there are probably *more* stories that haven't been told.

Mask don't look good on TV. Testing is for weak people. I'm sure Vince can drink a glass of water with one hand while Brucie is clapping.

This.

Satin is salty.

Holy shit, the light green board !

The real mistake Kitao did was signing with UWF-I and taking that match with Takada...

It comes from their sumo days. Kitao had reached the rank of Yokozuna (despite winning 0 basho, but that's another issue), so he was at the very top of the hierarchy. During his days of sumo, I don't think Tenta reached much better than lowly Maegashira (which is still quite a feat especially for a foreigner at that time), so needless to say not in the same ballpark at all. Kitao saw Tenta as below him because of that, and wasn't gonna do the job nor sell for him. That and Kitao being a complete prick.

It comes from Omega on a previous episode of BTE telling Page that the Bucks were "Christians as fuck !" because they would not come with them have a drink (of milk, for Omega, of course, but still).

Ok, thanks for clearing that point, like I said I haven't read every story (because after a while, it's just too damn depressing). Ok, so there's clearly an issue here and you can't possibly just say "but there was consent". Whatever the case, it was completely unethical to begin with. (and yeah, the intoxicated part only makes it worse on many levels)

Well, if there was consent, then it is legal and it's nobody's business, period. The issue here is that the woman says there was no consent while Scurll says there was. It's word vs word, basically. So once again, I love people who *know* what happened because they read stuff on Twitter and others who are going all "yeah but morality !" when it is not the issue. If a crime was commited (rape), then it's a crime and should be punished by the law. If there was consent, then it's legal and no one has anything to say, really. Now, if people want to say that 16 years old shouldn't be a legal age of consent, whatever, but that's a totally other debate and it's way complex and idiots on Twitter aren't gonna discuss that matter. Whether it's right or wrong that 16 is the age of consent in the UK is not the issue here. The issue is : rape or no rape. Of course, where it's getting even more complicated is that one could argue that the age difference (when was that, I don't even know so I'm not sure of what the difference was) played a part is getting "consent" where there should not be. I have not followed that story, I don' know if she was a trainee, a fan or whatever, but from that perspective, it can definitely play a part in the fact the relationship wasn't consented. Or maybe Scurll thought that it was (mistake and ignorance). Or maybe Scurll pushed so that it "was" (manipulation and sexual abuse). So many things we don't know, that are complex, and as of now, this comes down to word vs word.

The problem is that it is probably the tip of the iceberg. Those are the stories that are told, not all the stories. We haven't heard from the most proficient female performers and there's probably a good reason for that, sadly. I saw a Tweet by RVD who was saying he believes these are about 5% of the stories and that most won't be told. Hopefully it won't stop there, but it will take a whole lot more than this. The Joey Ryan thing is by far the worst and it's so awful. Apparently everyone in his entourage is shocked as hell. This is a thing with those people, they are very good at moving in the shadows and pretending to be someone other that what they are. This is so awful for everyone involved, really (probably hits me the hardest because I legit enjoyed this guy, so now I feel like I need to take a shower every time I even hear his name, and really thus far it's by far the worst case of all).

In others news, Omega & the Bucks are not releasing BTE this week. Apparently they also have deleted the episodes in which Joey Ryan was appearing. I have not checked, but I can tell the "Wrestlers on the road" episode with Ryan is indeed gone.

Well, that's pretty clear-cut. Good. Also, Ethan Page once again comes off like a really good guy, which is nice to see.

Also, thoughts for the friends and former partners who trusted him and did not know about his actions, who must feel like shit right now in a mix of feeling totally betrayed, maybe guilt of not having seen it and whatnot. This is just awful on so many levels.

I was actually thinking the exact same thing. It's appalling.

By micro-context I rather meant a singular situation of interaction, not something like another macro socio-cultural (or economical) context like say "pro-wrestling" (which is still macro). Basically, two people in a room discussing, to take the simplest, most basic one. And from there it's full of tons of elements constituting the situation of interaction, which can indeed take in account a relationship of power and domination (a boss and his employee, a trainer and his trainee), but not necessarily. But anyway, this discussion was basically moving away from the matters at hand here as I was making a much more general remark about how "She's super hot" was not problematic in itself. Of course that's really neither here nor there considering what was said in the discussion in question ! *gasp* Fucking hell indeed. Way to make me feel shitty about having both enjoyed and defended this guy's work before.

I'll add this and end with the linguistic shit because enough is enough already (). Language is a two-way street. There's coding and there's decoding. And the individual coding is not necessarily responsible when there's something faulty in the decoding. Basically what I'm getting at here is that : people who get offended always think they are justified because of their emotions, but sometimes, the reality is that people are offended but they are in the wrong. But because they are guided by their emotions, they can't accept this fact (and again, it's human, we ALL do this). Because you (or me) are offended by something doesn't mean that you (or me) are necessarily right to be offended. Sometime you (or me) are making a mistake. And it's not easy to see because emotions, especially negative emotions, are very strong, and we always rather be right anyway. Ok, out with the linguistics and cognitive bias talk. My brain is gonna fry any minute now !

In a vacuum, words don't mean anything. They're just a symbolic system. So yeah, there's no "bad word". And when you say we live in specific context, yes, but there is not one single context, there's thousands of differents contexts (we could call them micro-contexts) made of thousands of different elements inside which the language is produced. To reduce those infinity of contexts to the specifics of "patriarchal society in which women are objectified" (which is not wrong, per say) is locking the entirety of language into a grid of interpretation that does not necassarily applies to the conditions (when, how, where, to whom, by whom etc...) of production of the proposition (whatever it is, in this case "She's super hot"). I hope it's a bit clearer now, but again I apologize if it's not as I'm trying to express notions that are quite a bit complex already in my native language and I may not use the right/exact technical linguistic terms in English.

I legit laughed at that one. Ok, first of all, thanks for the transcript, one hell of a job. I just wanted to add that Meltz said that the Corny accusation seemed suspect to him, although he had no idea if they were true or false. He mentioned the fact that with all the enemies Corny has in the business today, if grooming had happened, it's probable other people would have jumped in following that sole accusation. And it's a pretty good point. Shitting on Corny in 2020 is not gonna cost you any job nor make you a bad guy in the community, there's no risk of that sort here (contrary to all the young women who are currently talking about co-workers/trainers). Reading this transcript, I must say, although it's pretty irrelevant in the grand scheme of things, that I think Corny is making a pretty case of defense for himself, honestly. And either way, people who have called Corny a "pervert" because he's a swinger, really, fuck you people. Or go get fucked, that'll suit you good. "Kink shaming" is pretty accurate. As long as it's consensual between adults and there's no power play involved, whatever people do in their sex life is nobody's business. Fucking intolerant normies.