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That's ok.

Thank you for this one. The whole "a human being with kids is more important than a human being without kids" drive me fucking insane.

I did not quote you because my post was a followup to MoS post talking about people on social media. You can apologize now if you feel like it, not that I really care.

NzO of course.

At this point Cornette is a broken clock to me. Yeah, he can make good points at times. But so does anyone. Even Vince Russo has made good points about pro-wrestling I'm sure. Yeah, that's how low the mighty has fallen to me.

I kinda dread the single match against Statlander (who fucks stuff up all the time it seems, and I like the girl but...) in front of no real crowd though.

It's true in a lot of part of society though. The carny history of pro-wrestling only emphasizes those aspects, especially the first one.

Agreed. From day one, Hangman has been the designated guy to be the one "original" Ace of the promotion. Jericho, Mox, Omega (whenever that happens) are only those who are gonna build the path. One thing about AEW is that they seem to aim for the long term while not being afraid to experiment along the way. A few months ago, both Page and Baker got the "failure" treatments from everywhere. They were failures, uncharismatic, would never get over etc... And then... Of course Page is a great worker whereas Baker is green as hell and doesn't strike me as someone who will turn into a great worker anytime soon if ever, but the point remains. But this is a discussion for another topic.

This is something people don't seem to get about Omega. He's not an old-school guy in that he's not obsessed about being a top guy. He wants to do different things (he said he would love to do more intergender wrestling). Plus, his dream was always Japan. Been there, done that, at the highest level. He is 36, he has other interests in life. He's making huge money now. If he's smart, and he seems like a pretty fucking smart guy, he can probably go on without having to hustle. To me it makes perfect sense. And in a way, it's exactly like Becky Lynch having a baby now, to circle back to the beginning. They don't have an unhealthy obsession with Da Business. Becky is quitting (for now) at her peak because she'd rather have a baby. Omega could push himself to the top, but he'd rather help other guys get over and pass the torch already, because to him he already has reached the top where it mattered the most to him (NJPW). Makes total sense. Now, maybe Becky will come back and maybe Omega will get that last push to the top still sometime (it would be really nice to see a great stint as the Ace of the promotion eventually), but I can totally relate to those people, at least. The Young Bucks strikes me as the same breed. And hell, didn't Cody say he wanted to retire at 40 ?

These no-crowd IMPACT shows can get rough... No one needs a Hernandez single match, in front of no-crowd no less, in 2020. However, Kylie Ray is a joy to watch in any circumstance. Seems like they are gonna try something new with Rohit Raju, which is cool, the guy is talented. Highlights of the show : Cody Deaner in Kwaranteen, The North defending the title in Canada (that ring announcer sounds kinda like Jimmy Hart and they should get him to live shows whenever crowds are back), Moose as TNA World Champion (that's a brillant idea, the hype video with promos by Chris Daniels, Kazarian, Jeff Jarrett, Jeff Hardy, Hulk Hogan and Dixie Carter was another funny idea, they sure know how to use their back catalogue), Josh & Madison doing a really good job announcing, especially when Madison bitchslaps Josh verbally.

Well, Meltz and Alvarez have made the same point, really, so it's not like a great revelation or anything from Corny. Whatever good point Corny can makes totally gets invalidated by the complete bullshit he spews all the time. Oh yeah, that whole Peyton Royce thing was a debacle on all front, including in this board, sadly. I'm amazed the IIconics haven't been released by WWE during this time BTW.

Mark Henry is a company stooge, it's nothing new. He only knows WWE. And whatever struggle he had at first (while being on a fat-as contract that very seldom people ever got signed to), he ended up a very respected member of "the family", so he speaks as a "dominant" here. Isn't the whole "They gave Mark Henry tons of awful stuff to try and make him quit" narrative a bit overstated anyway ? No shit.

He sure did. Actually, no one knows for sure. Nor should anyone care, really. You realize what "sissy" means, right ? And he said other things too on Twitter by the way, but I couldn't quote that from memory. As far as "prancing around", yeah those fucking V Trigger don't look like it's kill someone for sure. But anyway, this is neither here nor there, Corny did make some very awkward, to say the least, comments in the past. First, "accusing" someone of being gay is one awkward way to put it to say the least. There's no accusing someone of being gay. Second, yeah that stuff about "unhealthy fascinaton with female japanese wrestlers" is another one filthy declaration on Corny's part. Omega has learned from watching joshi puroresu from the 90's because thise girls were some of the best wrestlers in the world. And then he has a fascination for Japan and Japanese culture, like many people of his generation. And then he worked DDT, which has intergender matches. So yeah, he has japanese wrestlers female friends. Maybe dated some, who knows, who cares. There's nothing unhealthy about all of that. As far as booking them strong in AEW, well, these girls have been the best of the bunch, easily. Riho was one of the most over act at first. Again, nothing "unhealthy", whatever that means. But really, we all know what Corny is trying to say by "unhealthy fascination with female Japanese pro-wrestlers", and it's disgusting for Corny to say. He's had one of the best career in Japan a gaijin can hope. Coming up with DDT (which is basically the second biggest company in Japan, really, whatever that means in the 10') and ending main eventing with Okada in some of the most notable matches of the last 15 years in Japan, and anywhere actually. Yeah, he had a cup of coffee... But this really isn't about Omega. This is about Corny and the awful things he seem to say all the time now.

Yeah, I really feel sometimes, the few bullshit that gets some buzz is actually the tree that hides the forest, sadly. What parts ? The part where he talks about Kenny killing the business for working against a 9 year old girl in DDT years ago or the parts where he makes half-covered homophobic remarks about him ? Or maybe the part where he says Kenny is a geek and not a star when, hey wait, he's one half of the match that basically jumpstarted this whole AEW thingy and before the shutdown was one of its most over act (despite the naysayers who live in denial), and is actually living on a fat-ass contract as a talent and top-ranked official of the N°3 pro-wrestling company in the world. Yeah that guy will never amount to anything. (I won't even go into match quality since it's the most "subjective" element, but these people in the crowd in Japan who probably don't know who the fuck Dave Meltzer is kinda went crazy for his stuff for years) As far as Cornette being toxic in 2020, I totally agree, because he carries with him a crowd of sycophants and haters who just parrot whatever he says. For instance the fact that NWA Powerr shared quite a bit of its viewer with the AEW Dark audience on Youtube should be enough to realize Corny consistently shitting on AEW and its fans was a very bad things for the NWA.

That's even worse, actually, because it means she's really fucking terrible at pro-wrestling then.

Well, it is and it is not. When you're hired for a job only because of your looks, and when years after years you display pretty much incompetence at anything other than looking the way you do (and by the way this has been a constant criticism of male pro-wrestler for years and years, way before women in wrestling became a serious matter) it becomes part of the issue. From what I saw during the MITB debacle (granted, it's not very much), Dana Brooke still isn't good at doing jackshit apart from flexing muscles. How long has she been part of the main roster now ? While "lesser looking" girls on the indies/small companies are a hundred times the workers and characters. So yeah, when all you got is your look, expect people to comment on it because that's pretty much all you bring to the table and this is why you are making money.

Damn, Kenny Omega killed his career dead two weeks ago now this ? Wow, AEW is so fucked now. Ok, next.

Well, that's YOUR point, the one you choose to make, and it's a totally valid one I might add, but that's not what I was going for. One : Corny's an idiot. Two : Dana Brook should find much better arguments than "spread positivity". Three : people on social networks who spend their time posting selfies of themselves in "Look at me, I'm so hot" pauses (generally speaking, not talking about Dana Brooke specifically), especially when they are public figures, have no business telling other people not to comment on how they look, whether they are men or women.

*grab a bag of chips and a beer*

Come on, people made fun of him wearing the T-shirt back in 1999. People have been mocking Mickey Rourke (who does look like a car accident) for decades now. Of course there's a double standard, as there is from pretty much *everything* in society. But that's not the point. Plus the social pressure on getting work done in waaaaaaaaaay heavier on women than on men (yes, double standard, again). I don't think being a good little soldier of that normative pressure is exactly what I'd call "spreading positivity". Well, actually it is, because the whole "positivity" thing is the latest mental avatar of über-capitalism (and which is why at times DDP annoys the fuck out of me on his DDPY app, which still is really good).

I get the feeling we'll see more of this when contracts are up, despite the fact these people are pushed on TV or not. I guess they have learned that the best way is to keep quite, say nothing and then simply not resign.

Quite honestly, that's the first thing that jumped to my mind when I saw her at MITB and that's the least you could say. Of course, everyone does what they want with their bodies and if she's happy with it, more power to her and whatever. On the other hand the whole "spread positivity" millenial bullshit sounds really dumb when doing stuff like this may encourage younger women and girls to have that kind of work done for futile reasons (and think they must abide to some kind of normative look of big boobs and big lips and whatnot). Reminds me of famous actress Emmanuelle Beart who had her lips done, it looks like crap and really has ruined her looks, she knows it, she has said it, said that she regrets it and warned people about the danger and consequences of doing stuff like this. Spread intelligence instead of idiotic "positivity". Of course Corny's post is anything but intelligent, but the point remains, when I saw Dana my reaction was "WTF happened ?". (oh, and don't anyone give me the whole "oh you can't say anything about someone's body, that's bodyshaming" when those people are spending their time on Instagram posting selfies all the time for narcissistic reasons and to feed their vain ego, it's such an hypocritical point to make)

This. There's two occurence of JR sucking bad today. First, the drone beatdown. Either get with the program or get the fuck away. Second, when he pointed out in a super condescending way that Brodie Lee did not hook the leg at one point, as he was Gorilla Monsoon at his worst. The thing is, it also allows me to points out how *good* Schiavone is. First, listen to the tone of his voice when he concludes the drone beatdown sequence, with a sense of empathy and sadness in his voice, selling the fact it actually means something to Matt Hardy. Second, when JR makes his stupid remark about not hooking the leg and hammers it down, Schiavone jumps in and tries to rationalize it, talking about maybe it is part of Brodie's arrogance that he doesn't feel he has to do it. And then Excalibur, who is obviously smart but would not "counter" JR, adds to to Tony's point. In both case, JR acts like he's above the angle/the character and it's Schiavone who puts things back in the rails of the storytelling. Apart form that, I enjoyed the hell out of the tag-team match, Matt looks much better than I thought he would, I thought he was more broken, pun intended, that this. Omega ruled, as he does. Glad to see Ortiz and Santana back "in the best shape of their life" (aka wrestling lingo for "nowhere near the best shape of their life, of not fat") too. The women match however was a complete mess, and it's obvious Penelope, Statlander and even Baker are way green still, so the three of them together was not a good recipe. Statlander really is the greener of the three though, she dropped herself on her head on that one, it was scary. Baker should focus on doing heel maneurisms and spots like she did on Dark in a very nice squash, high speed intense spotfest aren't good for her at this point. Penelope was fine apart from the awful spot with Statlander. Nyla vs Shida no DQ could be quite good however, as Nyla has delivered in big matches with excellent workers, which is what Shida is. When you have an announcer looking like Dasha, put the fucking camera on her at times, especially when she is being intimidated by Brodie Lee, so we can see the intimidation on her face. That's something I don't get. Lucha Underground was the best at it and of course Melissa Santos was an awesome announcer (will she follow Brian Cage to AEW when he eventually shows up ?). The small crowds doing tons of noise and even chants makes all the difference in the world, so the PPV should at least have a decent atmosphere. The Stadium Stampede could be awesome. Also... Colored wrist band for people who have been tested = pro-wrestling tapings are now officially like a gangbang.

Wait, what's the story here ?