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[1990-12-16-NWA Starrcade '90] Sting vs Black Scorpion (Cage)
Matt D replied to Loss's topic in December 1990
That is a daring choice. -
[1990-12-16-NWA Starrcade '90] Sting vs Black Scorpion (Cage)
Matt D replied to Loss's topic in December 1990
Short answer: Eddie Gilbert. The long answer involves a WarGames match with a new Horsemen of Barry/Sid/DOOM vs Flair/Arn/Sting/Luger at Wrestlewar, so we don't need to get into that. but yeah, Eddie Gilbert. No way Turner couldn't offer him enough to do it, even if he was living out his dream by being heel Lawler vs Lawler, basically. -
[1990-12-16-NWA Starrcade '90] Sting vs Black Scorpion (Cage)
Matt D replied to Loss's topic in December 1990
That's a boring answer. And not nearly as inspired as my fantasy booking. Either the short version or the long version. -
[1990-12-16-NWA Starrcade '90] Sting vs Black Scorpion (Cage)
Matt D replied to Loss's topic in December 1990
Alright, I'm putting this here and not in the general note or anywhere else. What's the best possible reveal for the Black Scorpion? What could have they done to make it work? I know who my choice would have been ultimately, but I'm curious what other people think. -
In elementary school, in 90, kids only cared about WWF. I had one friend who was the son of a friend of my mother's and that's who I got into WCW from. I think there was a good span of 6 months when I was only watching WWF and not watching WCW too. It was also a case that WWF ran the Boston Garden and WCW didn't run anywhere near me, really. The most important thing was this, though: Superstars came on at 12. Wrestling challenge came on at 1. When you're a kid in the 80s-early 90s, Saturday morning cartoons is a weekly routine. That was when you got your new cartoons for the week. Once noon hit, however, they were over and there was nothing else. Wrestling filled that gap so naturally. None of this answers the op though. My question on that is this: in the 80s, what percentage of everyone had cable?
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[1990-12-15-WWF-Superstars] Mr Perfect vs Kerry Von Erich
Matt D replied to Loss's topic in December 1990
Dibiase did feud with Kerry but the timing of it was weird. Think it was mostly between the Rumble and Mania. -
Neither here nor there, but Lenny Lane has nothing good to say about Wilkins as a worker
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How the hell does Yoshi Tatsu still have a job?
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Well there's the story that London and Kendrick tell. About how they got to visit Titan Towers with Snitsky and they're walking with Shane McMahon who's super happy to see Gene, and as they walk by the LOD photo on the wall, Shane looks to them and goes "this is the last time tag team wrestling mattered to me." or something like that.
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[1993-10-30-WWF-Superstars] Jerry Lawler as Randy Savage
Matt D replied to Loss's topic in October 1993
Pretty hilarious. Lawler was having a blast with this. -
[1990-11-23-WWF-The Main Event] Buddy Rose Blowaway Diet
Matt D replied to Loss's topic in November 1990
Dylan Weeps- 10 replies
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[1990-11-23-WWF-The Main Event] Ultimate Warrior vs Ted DiBiase
Matt D replied to Loss's topic in November 1990
This, to me, is one of those matches that actually has me point at Warrior (not Dibiase) as a guy who can follow direction. -
Morton was very over. Check out the crowd reaction to some of those early angles. Flair also drew 15,000 when Road Warrior Hawk challenged him on the Great American Bash tour in Philly. Vince didn't need to run Hogan/Michaels. Both were babyfaces. Bret vs Savage is really the closest a tag team wrestler got to interacting with the top singles stars in the era, and that only happened one time. The point was that the NWA treated their tag teams as stars on the same level as their singles performers, where in the WWF, they were an isolated division. I'm not saying it's not without its own set of flaws, but I am saying that the NWA would have suffered more from the loss of the Road Warriors or Rock & Roll Express than the WWF would have from the loss of the Hart Foundation or British Bulldogs. There are some examples. Hogan and Savage had the Twin Towers angle. Hart wasn't just involved with Savage in a match but also in the angle where they helped Honky to set up the Mega Powers in the first place. Hogan+Demolition+Jake was a pretty high level Survivor Series team. But yeah, in general, it was just not the way WWF operated. They booked long term programs in very stultified ways. On the other hand, I actually think that by running multiple tours, the top tag teams might have been more important. I'd love for someone better at it to run the numbers, but I think the Bulldogs were draws. I think US Express was a draw. Or Demolition. Or the Harts. How often did they helm B and C shows? How did those shows do. Those are my questions.
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Part of me feels like this note is a dastardly JvK trap for me, so I am keeping a cautious distance.
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You had tag champs anchoring B WWF House shows. I nominate John to look at that and attendance figures.
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IRS vs. Mike Rotunda vs. Michael VK Wallstreet
Matt D replied to JerryvonKramer's topic in The Microscope
His shoot is okay so far as shoots go. The beginning of his career is actually fairly interesting. You get, more from him than from anyone else I've ever listen to a shoot of, the sense that "yeah, it was just a job." The best part is when he talks about the boat. And yes, I love the promo where he's yelling at his secretaries. That was really the start of his post Money Inc life. Also, I love this picture. Neither here nor there, but one thing I've gotten from shoots is that almost all of my favorite wrestlers are either the guys who grew up with wrestling in their lives or grew up watching it. There are a few exceptions, but just a few. According to Patera, Flair had wrestling magazines strewn around his room all the time before he got into the business. Basically, all the best wrestling is just fan fiction. -
Regarding Sid's 98-00 work, I always had the sense that he was trying very hard, but that whatever he was doing was not pro wrestling. He didn't quite understand the rules. Maybe he learned from a correspondence course. It was sort of like having a very talented athlete be taken off the bench in the middle of a football game and think that he was playing, I don't know, softball instead.
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[1990-11-17-WWF-Superstars] Brother Love: Ultimate Warriors
Matt D replied to Loss's topic in November 1990
Went totally over my head as a kid since I had no idea that Kerry was the Modern Day Warrior. -
[1990-09-28-NWA-Power Hour] Bobby Eaton vs Tracy Smothers
Matt D replied to Loss's topic in September 1990
Poor bastard. Sure, Smothers and Morton are nothing to sneeze at. But. -
http://thehistoryofwwe.com/superstars87.htm We've got "Cobra Clutch into Russian Legsweep," "Back Elbow from the middle turnbuckle," "Spinning toe hold," "scorpion deathlock." Lots of that elbow in 87, into 88. Graham has the 4/10/88 wrestling challenge airing for.. Ted Dibiase (w/ Virgil) defeated Jim Evans at 1:52 via submission with the Million $ Dream (the first match in which the finisher was referred to as such)
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Could he even successfully slap the Dream on Herc? I see Dibiase as a guy who would use it to bully smaller wrestlers.
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Rotunda's late 92-93 is better than his 91-early 92, I'll say that having watched a lot of stuff recently. I've not yet seen his singles run into 94 or his tag stuff with Bam Bam or Tatanka or whoever, but I was actively surprised by how much I enjoyed him in late 92.