[1992-06-13-SMW-TV] Down and Dirty: Barry Horowitz

[Loss]

Talk about it here.

[Loss]

It's the first Down and Dirty, which was always the highlight of SMW TV for me. Dutch's first guest is Barry Horowitz. Dutch promises to overturn Horowitz's 0-43 losing streak in SMW by taking him to the top.

[Cox]

It's a shame they never really went anywhere with this - I think this was Barry's last TV taping with SMW.

[shoe]

Just really fun stuff.

[El-P]

0-43.

Poor Barry, he deserved a better break.

Anyway, funny stuff.

[Kevin Ridge]

Dutch lets everyone know who he is and that we are not him. Barry is taken back by how many losses he has had in a row. Would have liked to seen more of Horowitz on SMW.

[WingedEagle]

Dutch interviews Barry Horowitz, who Dutch will teach to be a champion. Despite Barry's 0-43 record. Dutch is great but Barry doesn't sell it all that well.

[PeteF3]

Dutch pushes himself as doing hard, investigative journalism. Horowitz disputes his 0-43 record--"I thought it was only 25, 26!" Horowitz was a talented worker but got saddled with the jobber gimmick--not just being a jobber, but being defined by being one--for so long that it became impossible to extricate himself from it.

[MikeCampbell]

Dutch is pretty funny here, and I thought Barry did a good job too, "I thought it was about 25, not so many."

[GSR]

Debut episode of Down and Dirty with Dutch Mantel and his first guest is Barry Horowitz. Dutch says that Barry has a lot of ability, talent, drive and ambition (unlike that goof Carl Styles who he had previously), and whilst he tried to make something out of Styles, he now wants to make something out of Horowitz. Dutch has researched his won/loss record and it's currently 0-43. Barry didn't realise it was that many, he though it was just 25 or 26, but Dutch says that record will change as he's going to give him the knowledge, wisdom, know how and skills to be a champion in SMW.

 

This didn't appear to go anywhere as whilst Horowitz is shadowing Dutch in the next episode, the one after (which is a new set of tapings), Barry is not to be seen and there is no mention of him (at least when Carl Styles was in this position they would explain his absence on TV). Despite only being a jobber in SMW, you get a solid idea of what a real good worker he was. The squash matches were far more even (and Horowitz would often take most of the match), were always enjoyable and from his brief forays on the mic he could also talk. Not that he was this great lost talker, but he was certainly better than the likes of Lee, Horner, Gibson etc.

[garretta]

This is the same gimmick we saw Barry working in Dallas, but he's a lot less grating here than he was with Eddie Gilbert. I liked the part where Barry thought he had only twenty-five or twenty-six losses instead of forty-three. This could have had real potential if he had stayed in SMW.

 

Down and Dirty was a favorite segment of mine on Will's set, and even though Memphis was a lot less structured on interviews than most promotions, I would have loved to see how a segment like this would have played in the USWA. Of course, that might have meant less mic time for Lawler, so it would have been a non-starter. Besides, Dutch was a face in Memphis, not the heel-leaning tweener he was here, so there would have been an entirely different dynamic in play.

[dawho5]

He is Dutch Mantel and we are not.  What a line!  I thought this was good, but was Dutch ignoring Barry's record in Global?