flyonthewall2983 Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 I hate that they're putting Laurinaitis on TV, but at least he's not being used in any real capacity. I got a kick out of him introducing himself and explaining his job, and then HHH just butts in with "What is this, career day?" Best thing to come out of it is all the Super Dave references on Twitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Waco Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 Also, LOL at Cena's logic. Punk beat him so he's the champ and Cena thought he was about get stripped of his title. Does that mean that because he beat HHH at WM 22 he can strip him of his COO title? What??? Honestly between this and the needless bit with Johnny Ace that seemingly meant nothing and went nowhere, I am hoping this leads to a Cena heel turn/corporate champion coronation at Summerslam which is also the ONLY way this angle can be salvaged. The bottom line is that Cena's goody-good babyface, all about "honor" act does not mesh at all with the willingness to keep what is obviously a "paper" championship. The fact that he employed the logic above is comical to the point of absurdity and either illustrates that the WWE is now the least logical television enterprise in history...or this storyline is going somewhere else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted August 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 I was telling Dylan last night that this hinges on Punk's next interaction with Cena but they sort of cut the balls off with the main focus as HHH the Decider... deciding an outcome to the title "controversy" that isn't that controversial. We can only hope that next week the focus goes back to Punk-Cena and Punk calls Cena out on being an opportunistic douche and includes Rey Mysterio somehow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 Is it a bad sign that Cena got heavily cheered over Punk last night? I know that's to be expected, because Punk never really made a face turn, but I still got Royal Rumble '94 flashbacks. I could imagine people backstage watching that and thinking, "see, he's not that over." If the same thing happens next week, I expect Cena to win at Summerslam. They carefully booked it so Cena would be cheered more. Punk was super over at the start of the night. Then Triple H slightly deflated him. Then you have Johnny Ace come out and get heel heat. Making a point to needle JR. Cena comes out and drops the Sesame Cena shit and threatens to punch Ace's teeth in. Then Punk finally makes his appearance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smkelly Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 They're gonna drop the ball down into the vent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Evans Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 I'm in the minority I guess but I'd much rather see HHH/Punk than another Punk/Cena match after Summerslam. Loved the beginning interview with HHH/Punk but I agree the end was lame thanks to Cena's shitty promo. The guys is just so dull right now when he's not wrestling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomk Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 I hate that they're putting Laurinaitis on TV, but at least he's not being used in any real capacity. I got a kick out of him introducing himself and explaining his job, and then HHH just butts in with "What is this, career day?" Â What? Laurinitis was surprisingly effective. I walked away from that episode wishing that for storyline purposes he had been put in charge of the WWE instead of HHH. Laurainitis came off super comfortable in the role of stoogeing managerial heel,the perfect mix of campy General Takada in Hustle and a David Simon style evil middle magnager (more Klebanow than James Whiting but he felt like he had the potential to go full on Lieutenant Marimow). Â Since everyone else is fantasy booking this angle, I'm saying they should drop the whole Helmsley aspect (have him blow out his knee) and bring in George Hines to back Laurainitis up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artDDP Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 Hunter helps Cena win the title and turns heel in a reprise of the corporate champion angle. WWE capitalizes on Punk's babyface reactions and makes him the one chasing the title for a little bit before WWE mismanages the whole thing and it's babyface Rock vs. heel Cena at WrestleMania. Â This helps make Cena look subservient to Triple H, which is certainly Hunter's wet dream right now, and WWE turns a heel who gets face reactions into a face just to make a buck selling T-shirts in Punk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artDDP Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 I just watched the promos from Monday's Raw and I laughed at Hunter calling Punk "skinnyfat." That's a derogatory bodybuilding term for people built, well, like Punk: Lean but not well-defined and without visible abs. Â Are moments like this, much like calling Chris Jericho "that sawed-off midget", just Hunter getting caught up in the moment and saying something off-script or him purposely trying to take a dig at someone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 I think he got legit flustered and that was all he had. But I think that it shook him and Punk up while making the audience uncomfortable. Which helped the angle overall I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 So apparently MITB did about 135K domestic. Good numbers for a B-show, but not blowaway. Looks like we'd better get used to Punk eating Pedigrees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artDDP Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 So apparently MITB did about 135K domestic. Good numbers for a B-show, but not blowaway. Looks like we'd better get used to Punk eating Pedigrees. I imagine this will be typical WWE: When someone like Triple H is just not getting over (most of his initial heel run in 1999) they'll give him every chance in the world until something finally clicks. When someone like Rob Van Dam doesn't turn the entire business around in four weeks (fall of 2001) they give up and toss him aside until they really have no other choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smkelly Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 Hence why it is unprofessional to have blatant favoritism in the work place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 Can those of you who apparently have crystal balls that tell the future shoot me via PM some winning lottery numbers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 I'd like to know what drugs people expect Punk to start taking to go along with a gameplan that involves him eating Pedigrees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 I'd like to know what drugs people expect Punk to start taking to go along with a gameplan that involves him eating Pedigrees. Will he have a choice? I strongly doubt he has veto power in his contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 I'd like to know what drugs people expect Punk to start taking to go along with a gameplan that involves him eating Pedigrees. Will he have a choice? I strongly doubt he has veto power in his contract. Â I strongly doubt he would have signed a contract that didn't give him some say in storylines he's involved in. I doubt he has Hogan level creative control, but the whole reason his last deal went down to the last month ( assume he signed right before the first promo) was because he wanted certain conditions. I doubt he'd trade months of eating Pedigrees for a week off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 With the stories about Punk talking Creative out of the original plan of HHH laying him out, the impression I got was that Punk could lobby just like anyone else, but if Vince put his foot down, there wasn't anything he could do about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Liska Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 JR said that Punk's T-shirt is the best-selling one in years, so that's a positive for him. Vince loves guys that move merch. And I don't get how we have the MITB buys 3 weeks after the show, when it took 3 months for the real Extreme Rules number to come out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 Vince will protect anyone who sells merchandise (it seems to have saved Sin Cara's job for the time being), so as long as Punk keeps moving product I would think Vince will overturn any "eating Pedigrees" plans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 Zack Ryder moves merchandise too, and the WWE had to be dragged kicking and screaming into doing anything with him. Â My comment forecasting Punk's inevitable doom was somewhat tongue-in-cheek, but I'm not necessarily inclined to give the WWE the benefit of the doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artDDP Posted August 9, 2011 Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 Maybe Triple H will decide that Punk "really wants it" and isn't another person who's going to bail after getting a push and actually give him some rub? I think he just doesn't like to put over anyone he doesn't think takes the business as seriously as he does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollinger. Posted August 9, 2011 Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 Zack Ryder didn't have merchandise until two weeks ago, which is exactly when he was put on tv more regularly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted August 9, 2011 Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 John Cena would improve his workrate if he would add to his five moves of doom and let his heel persona shine through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted August 9, 2011 Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 Simmons got in the story of the Cena/Punk angle on PTI today and pimped Summerslam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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