Smack2k Posted September 27, 2012 Report Posted September 27, 2012 Can someone tell me the following as I am just getting into this angle.. When was the original beginning of this (the first mention of it, like Hall on 5/27/96 Nitro)? What are some of the great stuff to check out so far? Has ANYONE been revealed yet on TV? Thanks! Quote
rovert Posted September 27, 2012 Report Posted September 27, 2012 Sons of Ohio Valley. This has slowly become this generation's Black Scorpion. Quote
cm funk Posted September 27, 2012 Report Posted September 27, 2012 I know Luke Gallows is "Armbreaker", Mike Knox is one of them, and Wes Brisco is in the group (and has also been seen un-masked and not part of the group backstage) D-Lo Brown does the Ole Anderson "Black Scorpion" voice The initial thought of most was that it was a way to bring Jeff Jarrett back. Now people seem to think the leader will be either Bully Ray or Samoa Joe. I still think it's going to be Jarrett. I really can't think of any "great" moments in the angle. The Aries-Armbreaker fight at the last PPV was ok. Quote
Loss Posted September 27, 2012 Report Posted September 27, 2012 Oh, I guess it's something TNA-related. Quote
Laney Posted September 27, 2012 Report Posted September 27, 2012 I don't really follow TNA, but I know this angle has been going on since June. I'm surprised that the members haven't been revealed yet. What is with the slow burn on this angle? Quote
Smack2k Posted September 28, 2012 Author Report Posted September 28, 2012 Yeah, I think I bought in due to the VERY slow burn as its something we rarely see in wrestling these days. I went and watched a ton of this build over the day today and, for me, I am actually very interested in something for only the third time in YEARS (Nexus arrival on RAW (which was ruined quickly) / Punk in June 2011 (which they also fucked up quickly after MITB). So do I think this will also be fucked up and stupid in the end? Yes I do....but for now, I am hoping otherwise until it happens.. If its ANY already existing TNA guys, then only a GREAT storyline reason woild make it good for me. If its someone from outside (maybe ROH / another Indy / etc..) color me interested in where it goes.... Quote
JerryvonKramer Posted September 28, 2012 Report Posted September 28, 2012 I don't watch TNA, but my money is on these guys being Tex Slazenger and Shanghai Pierce! Quote
Smack2k Posted September 28, 2012 Author Report Posted September 28, 2012 That would be SWEET!!! Not really, but at the same time, REALLY!!! Quote
rovert Posted September 28, 2012 Report Posted September 28, 2012 So what do they want? Why are they there? How do they have easy access to the IMPACT Zone despite the carnage they cause on a near weekly basis? Apparently this is better than the Russo written IMPACT. Quote
Smack2k Posted September 28, 2012 Author Report Posted September 28, 2012 After last night, I am enjoying this, BUT also worried.. I mean, its a LOT like the NWO angle (With Aces and 8's coming in and getting a match with TNA..if they win, they stay..if not, they leave) BUT, what worries me is that after Hogan said it would be him and Sting, they said no Hogan, he had to watch...I immediately started thinking "Oh God, please dont make Hogan the leader, PLEASE!!!" So that worries me BIG TIME after last night...if TNA does this...they deserve to fail. I also thought why would youf goal be to become a part of TNA after just beating everyone down week after week? But then I was thinking maybe they want to destroy it from within. IN 1996, Hogan turning on WCW...Awesome. In 2012, Hogan turning on TNA, Hogan even being heavily involved in this....COMPLETE SHIT This has promise, but like I said before...IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE LEADER. With all the lawsuit stuff going on with Scott Steiner right now, that would be a decent swerve for it to have been him the whole time. Especially after ALL The trashing he's been doing to Hogan and TNA around the horn. That and I really dig Big Poppa Pump! Quote
Loss Posted September 28, 2012 Report Posted September 28, 2012 Yeah, won't this be the third NWO rehash attempt since Hogan came on board in 2010 if they do that? There was the thing early on with Hall and Nash, and then whatever that angle was with Jeff Hardy where both turned heel. Quote
Smack2k Posted September 28, 2012 Author Report Posted September 28, 2012 Yeah, it will be...but for some reason (stupidity I'd guess), I continue to HOPE that they will finally do an angle like this good again. And this time not hotshot it or add un-necessary items to it (more people, TNA guys turnning, etc..) leading to a final showdown (War Games Anyone?) and then move on.... Will that happen? Probably not...The leader will either kill it or it will get hot and Hogan will stick himself in there (like Vince was the Higher Power in 1999 even though it made 0 sense) to get more attention.. I had a BAD Thought today...what if it is Brooke Hogan..mad at her dad and wanting to get revenge...Good god, that woudl be HORRID...and THEN a few months later Hogan is shown as the true "pupper master" working with Brooke all along... Quote
JerryvonKramer Posted September 28, 2012 Report Posted September 28, 2012 Wasn't there one story in which Vince was revealed as the puppet master behind the kidnapping of Stephanie (by the Undertaker) which was done mainly to get at Vince himself? I'd like someone to make a thread with a blow-by-blow account of the story, because it was batshit insane. Quote
Smack2k Posted September 28, 2012 Author Report Posted September 28, 2012 Yeah, that is the "higher power" part I mentioned...It was a mess...I still wonder today if they had someone else in mind for the higher power and it fell through or if this was the idea all along... But it made NO SENSE!! Quote
JerryvonKramer Posted September 28, 2012 Report Posted September 28, 2012 What was Curtis Iaukea doing in 1999? Seems like a role custom-built for him. lol Quote
Loss Posted September 28, 2012 Report Posted September 28, 2012 Wasn't there one story in which Vince was revealed as the puppet master behind the kidnapping of Stephanie (by the Undertaker) which was done mainly to get at Vince himself? I'd like someone to make a thread with a blow-by-blow account of the story, because it was batshit insane. My early idea for the 1998-1999 yearbooks is to keep a separate thread jokingly explaining all of the things during that time that made no sense, like Undertaker and Kane's relationship, the Greater Power, HHH and Stephanie's roofie-based marriage, etc. Quote
Gregor Posted September 28, 2012 Report Posted September 28, 2012 My early idea for the 1998-1999 yearbooks is to keep a separate thread jokingly explaining all of the things during that time that made no sense, like Undertaker and Kane's relationship, the Greater Power, HHH and Stephanie's roofie-based marriage, etc.Are you actually going to try to do that with WCW, too? Quote
Loss Posted September 28, 2012 Report Posted September 28, 2012 I can try, although they didn't so much have plot holes as they did dropped storylines in mid-stream. Still, yes, it's worth a shot. Quote
El-P Posted September 28, 2012 Report Posted September 28, 2012 "It was me all along !" is one of the greatest apex of shitty 1999 Russoesque WWF. Quote
Matt D Posted September 28, 2012 Report Posted September 28, 2012 i was there that night. we were not pleased Quote
Smack2k Posted September 28, 2012 Author Report Posted September 28, 2012 Was there supposed to be someone different? Ha, what if Aces and 8's were Vince...now THAT would be groundbreaking..... Quote
El-P Posted September 28, 2012 Report Posted September 28, 2012 i was there that night. we were not pleased Oh, man I can only imagine. I was not pleased in front of my TV screen either. "Everything comes down to logic." Vince Russo in Guest Booker Quote
El-P Posted September 28, 2012 Report Posted September 28, 2012 Was there supposed to be someone different? One big rumour around the Internet back then was that it was supposed to be Jake Roberts. He was also supposed to show up in WCW as part as Raven vs DDP angle the year before. Yeah, we were all about Jake Roberts in the late 90's. Quote
Victator Posted September 28, 2012 Report Posted September 28, 2012 i was there that night. we were not pleased Oh, man I can only imagine. I was not pleased in front of my TV screen either. "Everything comes down to logic." Vince Russo in Guest Booker Well that actually was a fairly logical reveal. It stayed true to Vince's character. But sometimes logic is not enough. Quote
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