ButchReedMark Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 Yeah, there's no chance in hell now I look at it sober. Disregard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 Triple H will be Jericho's podcast this week. Well holy shit. What have we come to? This will be the first time that I listen to Chris Jericho's Podcast, apparently! Seriously? You've been missing out my friend.... I have purposely avoided it because I have no desire to listen to Chris Jericho talk. Just not my cup of tea. Triple H showing up, has piqued my interest because I'm curious about the sort of questions he'll field. I would much rather prefer it were Steve Austin or even Jim Ross instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russellmania Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 Out of Jericho, Austin, and Ross, Jericho is by far the best interviewer of the bunch. The segments where he's just talking about pop culture stuff or plugging sponsors are pretty terrible, but he is VERY good when it comes to interviewing guests. Austin is a decent interviewer but has some fun stories in between the interviews. Ross is the worst interviewer of the bunch and tends to talk more than his guests. I guess my point is that if you actually care about the quality of the interview then you should be glad he'll be on Jericho's show as opposed to the others IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 sam got cut from the rams, but he played very well in the preseason and they're the most loaded NFL team at his position (defensive line). hardly a death blow to his football career, and i would expect him to catch on with a practice squad elsewhere. everyone seems to have said nothing but nice things re: his work ethic & not being a locker-room distraction like many were afraid he would. the attention regarding the latter all seems to be directed at ESPN rather than sam himself. Yeah, looks like he's heading to the Cowboys, assuming he passes the physical. Which I have no doubt he will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 Yeah it's definitely safe to say that Sam will not be on RAW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dexstar Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 Man, there are going to be some wildly inappropriate "revenge" segment ideas thrown around in the WWE office this week I bet. Thankfully a publicly traded company would never follow-through on those ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Liska Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 They're not going to do anything, this isn't like the Glenn Beck thing. They were trying to get some positive pub out of being welcoming and congratulatory towards his achievements and coming across as tolerant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dexstar Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 They're not going to do anything, this isn't like the Glenn Beck thing. They were trying to get some positive pub out of being welcoming and congratulatory towards his achievements and coming across as tolerant. I know, I was speaking in jest - at least about the chance of anything actually happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 Or there's the chance (remote at best) they have a "Damien Samdow" character. But I don't see that happening either. Jerry Lawler getting the ring to announce Michael Sam followed by Damien Sandow coming out dressed like him to a chorus of forced chortles from Michael Cole doesn't sound remote to me at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 To the surprise of no one Sam is not going to be on the show, but Jerry Springer will be to moderate a discussion with the Bellas. Just in case you were afraid this angle wasn't Wrestlecrap enough yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakla Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 Or there's the chance (remote at best) they have a "Damien Samdow" character. But I don't see that happening either. Jerry Lawler getting the ring to announce Michael Sam followed by Damien Sandow coming out dressed like him to a chorus of forced chortles from Michael Cole doesn't sound remote to me at all. I think the chance is remote since the subject matter is heavier than usual celebrity goofing. Could be a football-related skit next week tho. On the Bellas in-ring segment, I thought it was really stupid when AJ's theme played when she skipped around with the belt right after Brie shoved Nikki. Why is her theme playing? She "crashed" the segment, picks up the belt 5 seconds after Brie leaves, and her theme plays. Ugh. And Steph chews her out a few secs later anyway. Do they have to fill a quota on how many times to play her theme? I would have been alright if AJ motioned to the back or said "hit my music", but it's like she "earned" her theme playing with this. And it's not just her, it's all across the roster in all types of segments that this illogical theme playing has happened as of late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slackermillionaire Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 Out of Jericho, Austin, and Ross, Jericho is by far the best interviewer of the bunch. The segments where he's just talking about pop culture stuff or plugging sponsors are pretty terrible, but he is VERY good when it comes to interviewing guests. Austin is a decent interviewer but has some fun stories in between the interviews. Ross is the worst interviewer of the bunch and tends to talk more than his guests. I guess my point is that if you actually care about the quality of the interview then you should be glad he'll be on Jericho's show as opposed to the others IMO. I actual feel Austin is the strongest interviewer of the bunch but Jericho is just a tad notch below him at the moment. Ross isnt very good which a surprise but his interview with Tony Schiavone was strong despite JR's effort to take over the conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 They totally removed any mentions of Sam on their site today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 So a few days after a ton of celebrity nude pix get leaked on the internet, we get full moon shot from Rosa on Main Event that they just happened to be late cutting off on the live feed. Call me cynical, but the timing seemed suspicious, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fakeplastictrees Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 Or there's the chance (remote at best) they have a "Damien Samdow" character. But I don't see that happening either. Jerry Lawler getting the ring to announce Michael Sam followed by Damien Sandow coming out dressed like him to a chorus of forced chortles from Michael Cole doesn't sound remote to me at all. I think the chance is remote since the subject matter is heavier than usual celebrity goofing. Could be a football-related skit next week tho. On the Bellas in-ring segment, I thought it was really stupid when AJ's theme played when she skipped around with the belt right after Brie shoved Nikki. Why is her theme playing? She "crashed" the segment, picks up the belt 5 seconds after Brie leaves, and her theme plays. Ugh. And Steph chews her out a few secs later anyway. Do they have to fill a quota on how many times to play her theme? I would have been alright if AJ motioned to the back or said "hit my music", but it's like she "earned" her theme playing with this. And it's not just her, it's all across the roster in all types of segments that this illogical theme playing has happened as of late. I've also had a problem with the theme music recently. So I guess the question then becomes, when is it appropriate to play a wrestler's theme music? When does it become overkill? At what point does it become silly and counterproductive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 recap of part 1 of Hunter on Jericho's show (from rajah) - Triple H's WWF debut back in 1995 was delayed due to a no-compete clause he had with WCW. He attended several WWF live events before making his official debut. - Eric Bischoff initially offered him a 2-year deal at $50,000 per year, which he wasn't happy with. He signed a 1-year deal to prove himself. He said WCW was a total mess, "no structure or organization," and sent out feelers to WWF through dirt sheets. - Triple H grew up watching a lot of wrestling promotions but said he always wanted to wrestle for the WWF. Jericho said he went to WCW with the goal of eventually making it to WWF. - Triple H joked about his WCW gimmick, Terra Rizing. He said originally the name was Terrorizer. He thought that was ridiculous and asked for an actual name. Management added a space in the middle and it was Terra Ryzer, which eventually morphed into Terra Ryzing. He eventually got repackaged as Jean Paul Levesque, which he also thought was ridiculous, because he’s not French. He came up with the blue blood gimmick. - Jericho asked him about the origin of the Hunter Hearst Helmsley character. He said Vince liked his blue blood character, but wanted to rebrand him as an American, in case they ever wanted to make him a babyface. He said Vince wanted him to be a blue blood snob from Greenwich, CT. When they were coming up with a ring name for him, JJ Dillon dubbed him Reginald Dupont Helmsley. Triple H had come up with his own list of names and they settled on Hunter Hearst Helmsley. He said Shawn Michaels started calling him Triple H from day one. Vince didn’t like the Triple H name when he first heard it but changed his mind the following year. - When he first joined the WWF, Diesel was champion but Shawn was the top guy in the company. Undertaker, Scott Hall and Kevin Nash were also the major players. He was friends with Terry Taylor before he began with WWF and it helped to have an ally there. He said the guys would make fun of bad wrestling gimmicks and Terra Ryzing was one of their favorites to mock. Despite that, they had told Vince that Triple H was a good talent they should consider bringing in. When he came in, the Kliq looked out for him a lot. - He was miserable riding with some of his first travel partners. One day when he was at the airport, Kevin Nash told him to ride in the van with him, Shawn Michaels, Sean Waltman and Scott Hall. One night at Denny’s, Sean Waltman and Scott Hall had to be “dragged out.” He had to slap Sean Waltman because he barely had a pulse and they all wound up in the emergency room that night. The next morning, him and Kevin Nash went to the gym to train. - He said Scott Hall was not very “impressive” when he wasn’t in Razor Ramon mode. When he’d go into character, he completely transformed “as if he grew three feet.” - Vince McMahon held a meeting at a hotel and it was agreed that the company needed a new direction. Several top agents were there, along with The Kliq. He was in the room when the meeting was about to begin and tried walking out. Vince asked where he was going and he said he was a new guy and he didn’t think he would be part of the meeting. Vince told him to stay. Vince told the guys to evaluate the roster and advise him who should stay and who should be let go. He told everybody to individually write down their thoughts on the roster and the direction of the company. Everybody in the room had Bam Bam Bigelow on the list, because he strongly disliked the Kliq and was disruptive. Triple H said that meeting was the first spark of the Attitude Era, because everybody was pushing for more reality. They questioned, “Why do we have Doink The Clown? Why can’t be just be wrestlers? Why do we have to be firemen and cops? Why can’t it be more real?” Vince agreed that they needed to get away from the campy product geared towards children. They brought up the rock band KISS, who had been an edgy group, but turned away their core audience by having a cartoon and catering to kids. They were no longer cool and were a parody of themselves. - One of the genius things about Vince is his ability to hear a lot of opinions, think them over and process them. Vince told him to surround yourself with people smarter than you, listen to their opinions and use your judgment to form the best strategy. The President doesn’t have to be the smartest guy in the room. He needs to listen to smart people and make the best common sense decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantastic Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 Overall, does anybody else think that the frequency of non-minor injuries has been reduced in the past year or so? Could this be down to there being a large presence of "lighter" workers on the roster? As for guys who work stiff: Brock has a reputation for being a stiffer worker, although it's probably not because he has a need to hurt people, he's just from an intensive athletic background where power is key. Jericho and RVD have had heat throughout the years for rough strikes. Is there really anybody else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fando Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 Everybody in the room had Bam Bam Bigelow on the list, because he strongly disliked the Kliq and was disruptive Nope, he said Bam Bam was the one being negative, always saying that this and that guy had to go but everyone at the meeting had him on their list as a guy that should stay because he was a top guy and could go in the ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chief Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 I enjoyed the HHH interview tremendously. The shitfaced Gordon Solie story was hysterical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 From sending out feelers via dirt sheets, to trolling them on Raw, it really is the circle of life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russellmania Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 I really liked part 1 of the HHH interview, but it really doesn't seem like Jericho is going to ask him any tough questions. Not surprising or anything but kind of disappointing. I really would have loved to know how HHH feels about the overall creative direction of the company. The way he runs NXT seems in many ways to be the antithesis of how the main show is run so I would think he's gotta have some strong opinions about that stuff. Overall though HHH is a really articulate guy and has a good sense of humor so I could listen to him just tell old stories all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmare007 Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 The fact that the first half of the HHH interview was a recap of his latest DVD is why Austin > Jericho as an interviewer (the Lita interview is another good example). Steve would've seen the DVD and be more specific with his questions. But regardless, even though it had a slow start part 1 ended up being pretty damn good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cm funk Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 Everybody in the room had Bam Bam Bigelow on the list, because he strongly disliked the Kliq and was disruptive Nope, he said Bam Bam was the one being negative, always saying that this and that guy had to go but everyone at the meeting had him on their list as a guy that should stay because he was a top guy and could go in the ring. Yeah. This is a prime example of why people shouldn't trust "recaps" of podcasts and shouldn't trust second hand reports of stuff Meltzer says or writes, as an example of stuff that is regularly butchered. This guy recapping on Rajah got what HHH said about Bam Bam completely ass backwards. What he said is that "the kliq" had heat with him for whatever reason, they just didn't get along for whatever reason whether it was due to him or them, but that when Vince asked them they would put him over as a guy who they could make money with and never tried to bury him. I have no idea of knowing how true that is or isn't, but what HHH said and what this dude who recounted it said were not the same thing. I wouldn't doubt that HHH is kind of full of shit there because Bam Bam and Douglas and Candido and a lot of other guys thought the Kliq guys would smile in their face while stabbing them in the back behind the scenes, but that could be chalked up to general paranoia and politics. And then again, Bam Bam was notoriously hard to work with and stubborn and flighty over the years from most accounts, and Shane had a big chip on his shoulder and a big ego, so who knows how much of this stuff is truth and how much is fiction. There's too much smoke to the fire to take HHH's account as the gospel, but I wouldn't put 100% faith in the tales of the guys who had beef with the Kliq either. I like how Bret looks back on those days now and admits that they were kind of just all acting stupid and kind of rolls his eyes at it all with hindsight and perspective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 Since Jericho has mentioned it, all I want is for them to discuss the previous heat they've had. I know they've buried the hatchet, but it would be interesting to hear them talk about where it came from on both sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 Meltz says the Jerry Springer deal was a last minute decision which is why it wasn't mentioned on RAW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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