Lust Hogan Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/news/334107 Apparently CM Punk sent a 22 page legal letter to WWE for royalties and character likeness in the video game..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russellmania Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 I can just imagine Vince..."Tell CM Punk 'Fuck CM Punk'" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakla Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 I think the chance is remote since the subject matter is heavier than usual celebrity goofing. Could be a football-related skit next week tho. On the Bellas in-ring segment, I thought it was really stupid when AJ's theme played when she skipped around with the belt right after Brie shoved Nikki. Why is her theme playing? She "crashed" the segment, picks up the belt 5 seconds after Brie leaves, and her theme plays. Ugh. And Steph chews her out a few secs later anyway. Do they have to fill a quota on how many times to play her theme? I would have been alright if AJ motioned to the back or said "hit my music", but it's like she "earned" her theme playing with this. And it's not just her, it's all across the roster in all types of segments that this illogical theme playing has happened as of late. I've also had a problem with the theme music recently. So I guess the question then becomes, when is it appropriate to play a wrestler's theme music? When does it become overkill? At what point does it become silly and counterproductive? The leaked script for this week's Raw (http://imgur.com/a/6CXSR) has music ques and such. For the AJ stuff I brought, there was no music cue for her skipping with the belt, and at the segment's end, it says "? Music Out ?". On Rusev coming out during the Wyatt/Show-Henry tag, it says "Rusev Interrupt and Entrance (NO MUSIC......)", thankfully. But on playing themes, I think it's something you "earn". It's a reward when you win a match. I'm not fond of themes playing for non-winners/outside participants after a post-match beatdown. There's a lot of nuances to theme playing. I know the WWE app has something to do with this, but I'm not thrilled with the increase in showing wrestlers already in the ring and forgoing their entrances on TV (or as I like to call it, "jobber intros"). Namely for workers who are still marketed as stars (even US/IC titleholders from time to time), rather than a no-name job guy that Ryback squashed early on. Not that it didn't happen from time to time on past Raws, but since expanding to 3 hours, the jobber intros have increased tenfold. You'd figure with an extra hour of time, there would be more flexibility for including intros. The first 2 matches on the last Raw had "double jobber intros" (everyone already in ring). Even Rick Fuller got regular intros on Nitro from time to time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 Interestingly enough, most of the time when intros aren't shown on TV, it's because a previous segment went over and they need to make up time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 They should never, ever cut out the Wyatt entrance because the crowd is so interactive with it. It's a great visual that makes WWE look good. They should shave the time off elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakla Posted September 5, 2014 Report Share Posted September 5, 2014 Interestingly enough, most of the time when intros aren't shown on TV, it's because a previous segment went over and they need to make up time. I know that was the case and probably still is at times, but in the leaked script, they were all written in there. When it says "DURING COMMERCIAL BREAK: Dolph Ziggler entrance and theme" and such. On the Wyatts, it's tricky ever since they "broke up" Harper/Rowan from Bray. It's an intro that would be overkill if done more than once on a show, but it's absolutely necessary when Bray comes out. I get why Harper/Rowan have their own theme (reminds me of the NWO B-Team theme, concept-wise), to give them an intro that doesn't require Bray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollinger. Posted September 5, 2014 Report Share Posted September 5, 2014 That's one talking point that completely baffles me. I wish there were less long entrances shown on tv. It doesn't make anyone look like a jobber. It's been nearly 20 years now since they were running jobber matches. Fans at this point are so trained to just pop for entrances, they NEED to try and deprogram that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 Brie Bella has been booked so incompetently the past month or so that I can't help but feel bad for her. But maybe that's the point in this meta wrestling world we live in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 The fact that Bunim-Murray demanded the split and will make it look like a amazing story on Total Divas while WWE books it like garbage is pretty hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fakeplastictrees Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 That's one talking point that completely baffles me. I wish there were less long entrances shown on tv. It doesn't make anyone look like a jobber. It's been nearly 20 years now since they were running jobber matches. Fans at this point are so trained to just pop for entrances, they NEED to try and deprogram that. I have been going through the WCW Nitros on The Network and some top guys have gotten the 'jobber intro'. It was a one hour show and everything was presented as important. I don't mind WWE cutting out the intros because in all reality- I can't think of a really spectcular entrance in WWE that I just HAVE to see. I can understand if WWE had a roster consisting of talent with entrances as OTT as The Undertaker, Glacier, 1996 Goldust, 1996 HBK, ADR circa 2011,WrestleMania Rey Mysterio, etc. Then yeah, I would be PISSED that WWE would even think about cutting that stuff out. But a lot of WWE wrestlers are robotic and have the same mannerisms for his/her souless entrance. WWE is stale, WWE is cookie-cutter, and sometimes its best to take a break from the same-old-same old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 It does really expose what I think is one of the main flaws in modern WWE: writers who over script to prove their worth creating material to be read by folks trained to be wrestlers rather than actors. Some folks have the charisma to overcome it, but the poor Bellas look completely overmatched at every turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakla Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 The jobber intro thing is a nitpick of mine. It's just odd to me that the "already in ring intros" have increased considerably ever since Raw expanded to 3 hours. People will defend the lack of intros by saying they do it to save time, when they did them sparingly in years prior with an hour less of airtime, so that doesn't totally hold up. When someone gets a jobber intro, they don't look like a star to me. It takes me back to the 90s WWF squash shows when the Iron Mike Sharpe and Reno Riggins types were "currently standing in the ring" before the real star comes out. Jobber intros often make matches more predictable. I'd like the perception of thinking a match will be competitive. If someone like Zack Ryder is already in the ring to face Rusev, that's fine by me. But I don't think upper-mid carders or those with secondary titles (even Ambrose was jobber introed during his US run) should be shown already in the ring like Barry O. There probably is a point where younger fans don't give a crap or notice this. I just want a slight touch of realism, like boxing or MMA, to present a competitive match and not have mid-carders or those with upward mobility look like prelim guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fakeplastictrees Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 I understand that point-of-view. We all see it as the 'jobber entrance' because of its history. I wonder what the new fans think? The kids that are 12 and have no idea about Iron Mike Sharpe, WCW Power Hour, etc. What do they think when Raw returns and The Miz is making his entrance and Kofi Kingston (multi-time tag, IC, and US champion) is already in the ring? I think picking the minds of the younger generation would be interesting. Also, as we have been conditioned to see it as the 'jobber entrance' what will these kids think in 10-15 years if the same shit is going one and the paradigm doesn't shift away from post 2007 WWE? I think another thing to consider on the entrances being cut being such a big deal is this- WWE, in some cases, doesn't make its roster look like stars. The trading of wins, the scripted bland promos, etc. So in some cases all these guys/gals have left is the superstar entrance and when that is taking away- then what? I would be curious to see if WWE continued with the cutting of entrances and ceased with the cutting away of the talents' legs when certain talent gets hot (i.e. ADR, Ziggler, Ryder, Ryback). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 Hunter impersonating Teddy Long on Smackdown last night was absolutely hilarious. Still rolling over it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmare007 Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 This is fake, right? It appears as though Big Show will be the next challenger for Brock Lesnar's WWE World Heavyweight Championship after the Lesnar vs. John Cena rematch at the upcoming WWE Night Of Champions pay-per-view.Although Lesnar already squashed Big Show at the WWE Royal Rumble pay-per-view earlier this year, the belief is that WWE is too light when it comes to top Superstars who are believable as an opponent for Lesnar.(Credit: Figure Four Weekly Newsletter) right??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 Must be. Cena's winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 Big Show is a perfect next guy for Brock. Henry is feuding with Rusev, Show has a personal reason for revenge, and they have a history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 It is mentioned in the latest Figure Four, and it also mentions specifically it being a title shot for the "OMG CENA'S WINNING" crowd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovert Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 Big Show is a perfect next guy for Brock. Henry is feuding with Rusev, Show has a personal reason for revenge, and they have a history. Also Heyman and Big Show are great friends in real life. Show will do everything he can to get Lesnar moreover out of respect for Heyman. Obviously it is a money position on the card for Show too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yo-Yo's Roomie Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 It might make sense, but do people really want to see Show versus Lesnar again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmare007 Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 Not me. And Brock already destroyed him. They have done nothing with Big Show to make another match against Lesnar compelling, and a 3-4 week build up ain't gonna do the job for me *shrugs* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovert Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 It might make sense, but do people really want to see Show versus Lesnar again? It is WWE's job to make people want to see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedEagle Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 There are probably a few people on the roster I'd less prefer to see Lesnar go against, but just a few. Maybe if the change his name to Show and drop the Big part they'll stop using him as a fallback in these situations. The one thing he's done all year was job for Brock on the way to Mania and then nothing since then. I'm sure they could find someone else to fill this role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anarchistxx Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 Brock must really like working with Big Show. They have this special attraction and keep putting him against a stale character with no heat who he has beaten many times before. A feud with a fired up Dolph Ziggler would draw a lot more. His credibility is pretty low but he did beat John Cena clean, and also he is a fantastic bumper. It would make a cool competitive squash, the crowd would be right behind Ziggler for his comeback spots and it would make a great visual to have him taken apart. Willing to bet it would draw more than a Big Show match too. Even Mark Henry is a better option, and he has storyline beef to want the match also. A Ryback face turn to face him would also work, or just run a hoss vs hoss heel match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmare007 Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 I'd be intrigued by a Sheamus match tbh. If they want to book a "filler" title match I'd like to see that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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