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[1991-06-14-WCW-Clash of the Champions XV] Rick & Scott Steiner vs Masa Chono & Hiroshi Hase


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This crowd loves the Steiners. Too short to really meet its full potential, but the crowd was red hot and they had a fun little spotfest. Great finish too. Post-match, Dick Murdoch and Dick Slater debut as the Hardliners and attack the Steiners. Somewhere in all this, either in the match or the post-match angle, Scott Steiner tore his bicep, and they ended up having to vacate both the WCW and IWGP tag titles. The Steiners were top guys in WCW and New Japan, and this was probably their career peak, so the injury was pretty ill-timed for them. I don't think the team was ever quite the same again after this, even if they did have more good matches.

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Scotty's bicep from what I have heard was already torn going into this match.

 

This match had a pure magical atmosphere to it that can't really be duplicated. It's tension filled and immersed in adrenaline with a fire on top of it that feels like it was doused in gasoline. This is why the Steiners were among the best ever tag teams if not the best. When I was watching this back as it happened I felt that this was one of the most realistic pro wrestling matches I had ever seen. I also felt like this was one of the best examples to show people what wrestling could be.

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I imagine Chono would have been surprised to hear that Hase was the leader of their team, as Ross claimed. Not that it mattered. I don't know about "realistic," but the match was a heck of an adrenaline shot. The crowd was way into it, demonstrating that all-action was the right path for the NJPW import matches. And frankly, the Steiners were better off without a lot of time.

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Not a lot of depth here but this was still fun. The Hardliners' post-match attack is effective and kind of a serendipitously convenient way to get the tag titles off the Steiners, as they take apart Rick Steiner's arm. The crowd is way into the Steiners' act but...there's no real conceivable heel team that anyone bought as being able to beat them, which is a problem (not to mention yet another reason why the Doom split was rushed).

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Ross’ comment about Hase being the leader of the team caught me off guard. Chono steps in. Scott had a stretch in match where he came in ring and walked past his brother being put in the STF by Chono. He went back to apron and then decided to try break up submission. Him and Hase go to the outside and he spends time hitting a suplex on Hase. Scott finishes this sequence off by climbing to top rope to break up the STF but completely missing the landing. Match was fun while it lasted. Hardliners attack Steiners after but they cut out early to go to commercial break.

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On the Network version of this match, the finish and post-match are quite obviously taken from a VHS. First time I've seen that.

 

This was fine, but Rick no-selling five kicks to the head after the first one broke his headgear (to a huge JR reaction) was annoying rather than bad-ass.

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This is one of those matches where the booking negates the match. First of all, what was the point of doing the Murdoch/Slater run-in on such a crowded show? They couldn't even show what I'm assuming was supposed to be the major maneuver of the whole sequence, which was Murdoch coming off the top into Rick's arm, because they had to go to break. You've got good old WCWSN to run angles in, Dusty. Are you so afraid that you'll lose viewers that you have to cram every major angle for the next three months into one show? Since we don't have the whole show, it's possible that they had the rest of the attack on instant replay when they came back from break, but I wouldn't bet the house on it. The one nice touch is that Murdoch and Slater attacked the Japanese too. One question: If Scotty's arm was the one that was hurt, why attack Rick's arm? Usually if guys are hurt enough to be put out of action with a real-life injury, that injury is the one that's attacked.

 

As for the match itself, it's not nearly the classic some of you are making it out to be, There's no time for a real classic, for one thing. For another, even though the Japanese get brief showcases for their good moves, the Steiners stink at actually seeming like they're going to lose, especially to a team that's so well-oiled and experienced that this is the first time I've ever seen them in my life. Was Sasaki hurt, or did Dusty just figure that any two random Japanese were good enough to do the job for the Steiners in front of a crowd that just wanted to see them kick ass, no matter whose it was? (I don't buy that they gave one flying speck about Chono and Hase; they'd have been just as happy to see Rick and Scott against Zan Panzer and Tommy Angel, or against Murdoch and Slater.)

 

I'm not sure Rick deliberately no-sold Hase's kicks; that was probably a planned sequence, with the broken headgear an unfortunate accident that both men just ignored.

 

No mention at all of your own World tag titles, even in passing? I know Dusty probably wanted to show courtesy to the Japanese and put their major tag title over as big stuff, but that's going way too far in my book.

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Where to start? This definitely was an upgrade over all but the Pillman/Horsemen tag in terms of action. Crowd was huge for it. Imagine if it had been for the Steiner's belts, you know, the WCW ones these fans care about. Question 1: Why do the fans in Atlanta give the first 1/64th of a fuck about Japanese tag belts? Question 2: How is it Scott understands what a hot tag is supposed to work when he's a babyface like this and not when he's the heel in Japan? Question 3: Where are you getting your info from JR? If there is a leader of this team it's Chono. Seven days of the week and any you might make up. Moving on, Scott with one of the most misjudged top rope moves in a big match of all time with that attempted break-up of the STF. Finish is fine, and I'm all for seeing Dick Murdoch come in and punch the crap out of everything that moves. But this is what you had to resort to as far as challengers to the Steiners? How long is this conceivably going to last given the age of Murdoch and Slater? Are there other, younger tag teams on the horizon that will be built up for the end of this feud? Recent history suggests no. The fact that this is the least of WCW's messes at the time says a ton.

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  • GSR changed the title to [1991-06-14-WCW-Clash of the Champions XV] Rick & Scott Steiner vs Masa Chono & Hiroshi Hase
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Some of my favourite discoveries from going through 1991 have been Hiroshi Hase and young Scott Steiner.  This isn't as good as the match that the Steiners had at the WCW/NJPW Dome show as Chono isn't as suited to working this style of match as Kensuke is and they could of done with some extra time, but it's still a lot of fun. Chono kicking the headgear of Rick Steiner made for a great visual. 

★★★¼

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