Loss Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 Did he talk at all about Ric Flair firing him and him throwing a garbage can at him in retaliation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 Nope. Also said he couldn't legally talk about the second time he got fired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmare007 Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 He mentioned being fired by Flair by did not go into, just mentioned it in passing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 It amazes me that guys like Mike Awesome still get vilified for jumping ship on ECW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petey Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 Funny how Jerry Jarrett's reputation is hurt by his payoffs, but Paul Heyman's isn't. I guess it's easier to be disappointed in making money that's less than what you expected as opposed to not getting paid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artDDP Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 It amazes me that guys like Mike Awesome still get vilified for jumping ship on ECW. For all the talk ECW fans and performers give about "the business" they forget that it is a business. If you aren't getting paid enough to even cover your travel expenses then by all means go make money elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Eduardo James Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 It amazes me that guys like Mike Awesome still get vilified for jumping ship on ECW. Watch you talkin' bout? Â https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLrulcZ9UXY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artDDP Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 Â It amazes me that guys like Mike Awesome still get vilified for jumping ship on ECW. Watch you talkin' bout? Â https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLrulcZ9UXY Â Yeah, I thought that was pretty over-the-top even back then before Awesome's death. And Joey and all the other ECW mutants should realize wrestlers leaving for actual paychecks weren't the reason their promotion went under. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 And the catch is. He wasn't leaving for more money. He was leaving so he would actually get paid. I remember reading an interview or a recap of a shoot with him about it and he said he was driving all over the place and not getting paid and he had had enough. I don't see how anyone could still hold something against the guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy hats Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 Plus he was given a lot of good material with which to work at WCW. A no brainer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidebottom Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 Â Â It amazes me that guys like Mike Awesome still get vilified for jumping ship on ECW. Watch you talkin' bout? Â https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLrulcZ9UXY Â Yeah, I thought that was pretty over-the-top even back then before Awesome's death. And Joey and all the other ECW mutants should realize wrestlers leaving for actual paychecks weren't the reason their promotion went under. Â Â But Joey, as the voice of ECW, would have only been playing up to the "mutants" as you put it. Effectively, he was playing a character and catering to an audience. Joey Styles is easily one of the most sane, down to earth people involved in wrestling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 Â Â Â It amazes me that guys like Mike Awesome still get vilified for jumping ship on ECW. Watch you talkin' bout? Â https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLrulcZ9UXY Â Yeah, I thought that was pretty over-the-top even back then before Awesome's death. And Joey and all the other ECW mutants should realize wrestlers leaving for actual paychecks weren't the reason their promotion went under. Â Â But Joey, as the voice of ECW, would have only been playing up to the "mutants" as you put it. Effectively, he was playing a character and catering to an audience. Joey Styles is easily one of the most sane, down to earth people involved in wrestling. Â Â I don't know if I would agree with that. Joey has done interviews where he lets his feelings known about Mike Awesome. Unless this is one time he is playing a character full time, I think he was legit pissed at him trying to leave WCW with the ECW belt in his hands. Â Probably as bad as the One Night Stand broadcast I would agree with you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidebottom Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 What interview are you referring to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 I liked it except Bret believing in his own hype and occasionally steering an unrelated topic back to talking about himself. It would appear that it's true that he and Flair have buried the hatchet considering he put him over a little stronger than in previous interviews though still voicing his old criticisms. Â Except the fact he worked a 45 minutes match with Davey Boy at Wembley and that his popularity in Europe was akin to Beatlemania, it was an interesting interview. Â One of the most striking thing to me is that he said he doesn't like to call it in the ring and that he plans his matches beforehand (said the only time he had to talk during a match was against Davey because he forgot everything so he had to lead him though everything on the spot). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fando Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 The Shane Helms YouShoot was horrible. Totally the wrong format to have him in. Really enjoyed Bret's, which was entertaining as much for the insight into match planning as it was for the eye-rolling moments. The worst probably when they got into the ladder match with Shawn and Razor. Â "It's the idea that's great, not the match." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Eduardo James Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 Except the fact he worked a 45 minutes match with Davey Boy at Wembley and that his popularity in Europe was akin to Beatlemania, it was an interesting interview. Â One of the most striking thing to me is that he said he doesn't like to call it in the ring and that he plans his matches beforehand (said the only time he had to talk during a match was against Davey because he forgot everything so he had to lead him though everything on the spot). I'm forgetting the exact quote, but he said it was something Flair did that annoyed him and his generation had evolved past in-ring calling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted August 9, 2014 Report Share Posted August 9, 2014 The worst probably when they got into the ladder match with Shawn and Razor.  "It's the idea that's great, not the match."  Oh yeah, I forgot about this one. That was pretty bad.  Like Corny said in one of his podcasts pimping his new sponsor KC : "It may be bullshit, but at least it's the bullshit from the guy who was there. You know wrestling…" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyonthewall2983 Posted August 9, 2014 Report Share Posted August 9, 2014 His basic insinuation that Randy only got the belt because he was over with "the boys" is a bit ludicrous too. He was on his way to eclipsing Hogan in popularity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Enthusiast Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 Evan Bourne YouShoot is surprisingly entertaining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Eduardo James Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 I watched the YouShoot with Matt Sydal and his haircut. It was kind of boring and Sydal acts like a dick to some of the people asking questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Enthusiast Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 I watched the YouShoot with Matt Sydal and his haircut. It was kind of boring and Sydal acts like a dick to some of the people asking questions. Â Yeah, definitely what entertained me about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidebottom Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 I didn't care for the Matt Sydal interview myself. It was just going and going and going... but nothing of note was really said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovert Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 I didn't care for the Matt Sydal interview myself. It was just going and going and going... but nothing of note was really said. Â Yup and grossly under delivered on the not afraid to burn bridges thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidebottom Posted August 11, 2014 Report Share Posted August 11, 2014 Â I didn't care for the Matt Sydal interview myself. It was just going and going and going... but nothing of note was really said. Â Yup and grossly under delivered on the not afraid to burn bridges thing. Â Â Burn bridges... He didn't even light a match Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruiserBrody Posted August 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 http://culturecrossfire.com/wrestling/kayfabe-lies-and-alibis-vince-russo-wcw-timeline-2000/#.U-oa9GP1vSg Vince Russo shoots on his time in WCW, the end of Bret Hart's career, how he really feels about Dixie Carter, his "racist" booking, his WWF writing success, why the internet marks ruin wrestling, making himself World champ and MUCH more!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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