goc Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 These are the pairings I came up with using the territory map: Portland - VancouverStampede - AWAToronto - MontrealJCP - WWFFlorida - Puerto RicoGeorgia - SoutheasternMemphis - ICWMid-South - WCCWCentral States - WWA This was the original proposition from goodhelmet: Portland - Vancouver Florida - Puerto Rico Memphis - ICW Southwest - WCCW AWA - WWA Central States- Mid South Georgia - Southeastern Stampede - Montreal JCP or WWF - Maple Leaf and Boricua had this one: Portland - Vancouver JCP - Florida Memphis - ICW Southwest - WCCW AWA - WWA Central States- Mid South Georgia - Southeastern Stampede - Montreal WWF - Maple Leaf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted July 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 Let me try one more argument. We have 19 territories. The ideas are all missing one promotion except for the one that pairs up 3 together. Portland died before it started so now we have 18 if ASW is paired up with a 2nd territory. Looking at the map, why don't we try this: Vancouver/Stampede Toronto/Montreal Southwest/WCCW WWA/AWA Memphis/ICW Mid-South/Central States Florida/WWC Georgia/Southeast WWF/JCP OR Vancouver/Stampede Toronto/Montreal Southwest/WCCW WWA/AWA Memphis/ICW Mid-South/Central States Georgia/Florida JCP/Southeastern WWF/WWC With an even pairing now, we could still just split Portland up amongst everyone, because A) It didn't even really exist as a promotion since Dylan dropped out immediately. and B ) The pairings weren't made until after the fact. Now everyone would have a chance to add guys who shouldn't have been drafted away in the first place (because Portland didn't run any shows) and going into August there would be no surprises about who gets what from now on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 My main issue with option two is that me and Steven get shafted on it, since we are among the two people least likely to drop out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 My main issue with option two is that me and Steven get shafted on it, since we are among the two people least likely to drop out. This is the silliest way of looking at it because no one on this board is psychic. Did you think Dylan was the MOST likely to drop out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 He'd have been an odds on favourite yeah, but let's not go into it all. I'll just go along with whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 We already told Wahoos Leg that he had Portland. He already made up the list of guys for the draft. I'm not sure how we're suddenly going back in time on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 I was never keen on the idea, but then I wasn't keen on hardcoded deaths either. I have no influence on anything, so will keep out of any more of these discussions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted July 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 We already told Wahoos Leg that he had Portland. He already made up the list of guys for the draft. I'm not sure how we're suddenly going back in time on this. Nothing was decided! Ideas were thrown out, Wahoo made a list, Matt D got involved, the two of them had private PM conversations and nothing ever happened! What's the harm in continuing to spitball ideas, especially if it ends up with something more people agree with? And you were the one who said put it to a vote in the other thread. This rush job of giving Wahoo a super-duper territory right off the bat is so strange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 He's not getting a super duper territory, he doesn't take the whole roster. If it had been decided that you got Portland then you'd be the one saying how screwed up it is that we already told you that you were getting it, you picked who you wanted and then suddenly that's not what is happening anymore. I think it's silly you are arguing so much over this because either way, the problems that you guys laid out with your booking plans WON'T get solved by EITHER of these solutions. Everyone going into a dispersal draft means you get MAYBE POSSIBLY one main eventer. If you get the last pick in the draft you still get scrubs. Your BEST chance of getting an influx of good talent is territory takeovers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted July 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 I'm over it. Let Wahoo keep these guys, but let's iron out exactly what the pairings are going on, since there's like 5 versions now. Jesse is the first pick in the Portland draft so once he's ready to choose, let's get this show on the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyin' Brian Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 (edited) I did like the idea when it was first announced because it seemed like a quick way to just keep things moving without too much craziness. Then there was no follow up and while waiting for either the draft to start or for Wahoo to make clear what he and Matt were doing, I had second thoughts. I assumed we were just spitballing ideas. My hesitation now has nothing to do with the match-ups and proximity, but everything to do with the likelihood of JCP ever getting the chance to absorb another promotion. WWF is active. MLW is active. Florida is active. WWC is active. And I don't want to root for anyone to go under just so I can get ALL their big names. Instead of always having a 50/50 chance to get one of the top ten stars of a dead promotion, now I'm stuck with castoffs unless someone decides to quit. But I'm too late? Fine, not a big deal. Finalize a sister territory list the fairest it can possibly be and start the leftovers from Portland/ASW draft. My postings in the August 1983 thread were more concerning how the monthly new rookie/returnee draft will go. Had an idea dating back 1-2 weeks ago and no one ever followed up on it. Do we want to combine the two drafts and just do them both at the same time? Probably should start soon so it doesn't leak into August. I think one draft a month is plenty. Put everyone eligible in it whether it be new talent, returns, guys from promotions that closed, etc. Edited July 21, 2015 by Flyin' Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wahoos Leg Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 As to the Matt issue, he and I have been talking and he's going to be helping me run Portland so it's not like he's getting screwed out of it or anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyin' Brian Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 That's good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 For the monthly draft can we add guys we want to drop from our roster when we are done with them or everybody be forced to drop one guy or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawho5 Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 Honestly, if we're going with pairings I'd say Montreal and WWC ought to be paired off. It's less geographical than dealing with the fact that the two promotions did (and will be going forward) share a lot of talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boon Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 Bump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 I really like a case by case basis, because there is a huge difference between WWF folding and Southeastern folding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawho5 Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 I agree with that. It may be best to have somebody move over to New York. Perhaps a logical solution to the issue would be Low Blow taking over New York and Mid South either getting taken over or being absorbed on down the line until we are all situated where we like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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