Jimmy Redman Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 Now we're almost there and I've finally started to make a list, I'm having what I assume are universal list problems. The main one being that I have about 35 guys in my "bottom ten", and hardly anyone in the 60-90 slots. I think I find it easier to throw someone a bone at the bottom than to say "this guy is a Top 70 guy." Anyone else have this problem? Is there someone whom you have no idea where to rank them? Bret has a daily swing of like 20+ spots for me, for example. No idea still. What are everyone's ranking issues as we come down to it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soup23 Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 I am having a lot of trouble with Fujinami. On a couple of my rankings post, I had him in the 20-30 range. Then I read his thread and the argument of the super high rankings and I don't really disagree with many of the arguments laid out there except that he was still really great in the 90's and I feel I am a bit lower on his series with choshu as most. As a result, when I start looking at individuals around him ranking wise, it gets difficult for me to push him up much. I also am having a tough time with my top 10 as it drives most of my thought process. Guys shift in and out fairly frequently and I don't think there is a huge gap at all between my #5 guy (top 4 is set in stone at this point) and my #15. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 This swinginess is why I developed the system because I disliked how arbitrary it felt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 I am purposely not thinking too much about my list yet, just because it will create too much misery. The day before the deadline, I'll spend an hour or two on it, not second guess myself, and just turn it in before I have time to change my mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quentin Skinner Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 I'm kinda having difficulty deciding the 80-100 range. Also my number 1 spot is up for grabs between 4 people and I'm having a very hard time putting one guy above the others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Microstatistics Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 I'm kinda having difficulty deciding the 80-100 range. Also my number 1 spot is up for grabs between 4 people and I'm having a very hard time putting one guy above the others. Who are the 4? Just curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedEagle Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 I am purposely not thinking too much about my list yet, just because it will create too much misery. The day before the deadline, I'll spend an hour or two on it, not second guess myself, and just turn it in before I have time to change my mind. May have to steal this. Easy is good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quentin Skinner Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 I'm kinda having difficulty deciding the 80-100 range. Also my number 1 spot is up for grabs between 4 people and I'm having a very hard time putting one guy above the others. Who are the 4? Just curious. Bryan Danielson Stan Hansen Jun Akiyama Terry Funk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Microstatistics Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 Wow, good to see Akiyama as a #1 contender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOTNW Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 I could recommend you some disappointing Akiyama matches to make him drop off (he's in my top ten and I pimped him about as much as anyone but...fair is fair) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Waco Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 I won't do a mock up draft until the week of. I'll second guess everything because that's how I am, but I won't submit anything I can't justify. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Redman Posted February 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 I'm glad it's not just me. One of the last things I'll do is write out an actual list. It's hard enough sorting guys into tiers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Lacelle Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 I wrote down as many guys I could think of & then put numbers beside each one. Then I realized I forgot about 5 guys and dropped my bottom 5 in exchange for them. I'll just keep that list & adjust accordingly as I watch more stuff. Pretty much everything after the top 20 seems random & arbitrary. Each time I make any type of list, there's movement & I would assume it's like that for everyone else. One day you prefer Rude to Austin, the next you don't & right on down the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 I had to do something a few weeks ago if only to take some stress off of me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InYourCase Posted February 21, 2016 Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 Carlos Colon and Sean Waltman are two guys that I'm having a lot of trouble with. Colon, on some days, feels like a top 30 guy, and other days, I feel comfortable putting him in my bottom 20. Colon is great at everything he does and I've had a blast watching his stuff, but that leaves me conflicted, because while he's tremendous, he doesn't jump off the screen as someone that I need to rank really high. Waltman's career is bizarre and it, for whatever reason, makes him difficult to rank. I love his stuff with Jerry Lynn in Global and he has spurts of greatness for the next 15 years, but those are few and far between. He's someone that I feel like I need to include because of his peak, but he's also weighed down by a bunch of terrible performances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted February 21, 2016 Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 Waltman's career is bizarre and it, for whatever reason, makes him difficult to rank. I love his stuff with Jerry Lynn in Global and he has spurts of greatness for the next 15 years, but those are few and far between. He's someone that I feel like I need to include because of his peak, but he's also weighed down by a bunch of terrible performances. I'm probably going to be the high vote on Waltman. Early on he was such a great heel, then transitioned into a perfect babyface. Great matches all over the place. He tailed down in 96ish due to injury and drugs, but he still had some great performances mixed in. His case is really made 90-98. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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