goc Posted May 25, 2016 Report Share Posted May 25, 2016 Obviously we all know the more well known ridiculous pro wrestling conspiracy theories like the famous 90s conspiracy that the original Ultimate Warrior died and was replaced by someone else and the very disturbed people who claim Chris Benoit is innocent and that Kevin Sullivan is the one actually responsible. But surely there are some more ridiculous theories out there that aren't quite as well known as those that can be shared in this thread. Just the other day I was reading a topic on the ever awful Wrestlingforum.com speculating about Daniel Bryan's tweets and whether he was still trying to prepare for a comeback. Which then lead into someone speculating that his injuries really aren't as bad as he claimed, he made up the thing about having a lesion that causes seizures and it was all a ploy to try and get out of his contract so he can go to New Japan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judy Bagwell Posted May 25, 2016 Report Share Posted May 25, 2016 How about The Randy Savage/Stephanie McMahon stories? That was an enduring rumor and was often cited as being the reason why Savage was never accepted back into the fold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 How about The Randy Savage/Stephanie McMahon stories? That was an enduring rumor and was often cited as being the reason why Savage was never accepted back into the fold I came here to post the same thing. I've never believed it. Didn't it originate in the infamous DVDVR "sleaze" thread? Hardly the most credible source. Not sure how ridiculous/dubious it is, but the Montreal Screwjob being a work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoS Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 I swear I am not making this up, but I once read some shit about how Owen Hart deliberately killed himself because he wanted his family to receive money, as he was not happy with the money he was making. The douche who propounded it even went into details, the most memorable for me was "Owen said 'I love you' to Martha, something he would never say to her." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soup23 Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 Political hit on Roman Reigns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
van_Fair Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 Obviously we all know the more well known ridiculous pro wrestling conspiracy theories like the famous 90s conspiracy that the original Ultimate Warrior died and was replaced by someone else and the very disturbed people who claim Chris Benoit is innocent and that Kevin Sullivan is the one actually responsible. Even worse than the people accusing Sullivan are those thinking Vince was involved. Because you know Mr McMahon is evil. Stuff like that just makes me question their basic mental capabilities. The Savage Stephanie stuff also always struck me as weird. The answer why Savage never came back is quite obvious if we look at the personalities involved. Savage was just one of the most eccentric and stubborn persons in wrestling and Vince is a control freak with abandonment issues. So once they had a falling out it made sense that it would take them a long time to patch things up. It also would have happend as I am sure we would have seen Macho Man on TV already had he not died. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotJayTabb Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 I think Savage taking money out of Vince's pocket by taking the Slim Jim's sponsorship to WCW with him is a more realistic cause of the split than the Savage/Steph rumour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gutenberger Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 Political hit on Roman Reigns This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
...TG Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 Not sure how ridiculous/dubious it is, but the Montreal Screwjob being a work? This was a common one back in the day. I remember Meltzer's old Eyada show Dave went off on like a five-minute rant on a caller after he asked about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 Obviously we all know the more well known ridiculous pro wrestling conspiracy theories like the famous 90s conspiracy that the original Ultimate Warrior died and was replaced by someone else and the very disturbed people who claim Chris Benoit is innocent and that Kevin Sullivan is the one actually responsible. Even worse than the people accusing Sullivan are those thinking Vince was involved. Because you know Mr McMahon is evil. Stuff like that just makes me question their basic mental capabilities. The Savage Stephanie stuff also always struck me as weird. The answer why Savage never came back is quite obvious if we look at the personalities involved. Savage was just one of the most eccentric and stubborn persons in wrestling and Vince is a control freak with abandonment issues. So once they had a falling out it made sense that it would take them a long time to patch things up. It also would have happend as I am sure we would have seen Macho Man on TV already had he not died. I never believed the Savage/Steph stuff, because Vince damn near cried on television thanking him and wishing him well when he left. As far as I know, Savage is the only person he ever gave that kind of send off. If Vince fired him for sleeping with his teenage daughter, I don't think he would have received such an obviously heartfelt sendoff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Jackson Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 I think the theory supposes Vince didn't know about Savage and Steph when Savage left. And he wasn't fired Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 Vinny Ru being sent to destroy WCW by Vince McMahon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 I think the theory supposes Vince didn't know about Savage and Steph when Savage left. And he wasn't fired The thing about these stupid conspiracy theories is that they change to fit the argument. I know he wasn't fired, but it isn't common to hear people say he was. Sure, Vince didn't know that Savage was sleeping with his daughter in a locker room full of carnies looking to stab each other in the back. He only got put into the Hall of Fame after he died, because Vince is glad he's dead. Seriously, I don't really take any of it seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveJRogers Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 Vinny Ru being sent to destroy WCW by Vince McMahon. Ditto Nash & Hall, and even Bret has been inserted into "sent to WCW by Vince as an agent of chaos" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted May 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 I think the theory supposes Vince didn't know about Savage and Steph when Savage left. And he wasn't fired The thing about these stupid conspiracy theories is that they change to fit the argument. I know he wasn't fired, but it isn't common to hear people say he was. Sure, Vince didn't know that Savage was sleeping with his daughter in a locker room full of carnies looking to stab each other in the back. He only got put into the Hall of Fame after he died, because Vince is glad he's dead. Seriously, I don't really take any of it seriously. I know Lanny Poffo talked about how Randy didn't want to go in the HOF unless WWE also inducted Lanny and their Dad. I'm not sure if that was something he just told Lanny or that he'd been contacted by WWE about it and made that demand and that's why he didn't go in earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
...TG Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 Vinny Ru being sent to destroy WCW by Vince McMahon. This one I can sort of buy. Not in the sense that Russo was some kind of double agent subverting WCW from within, as he's almost certainly not clever enough to pull that off. But more like when Russo told Vince that he was leaving for WCW, Vince figured that there was a near-100% chance that Russo would be an utter disaster with no filter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawho5 Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 I always wondered about all the big names that made their way over to TNA. Did Vince learn just how much of a cancer all of these guys (Hogan, Bischoff, Nash, Hall) could be when they killed WCW for him through their own failings? Did Vince ever figure that by leaving them unsigned he was inviting TNA to destroy itself by hiring them? I won't say it's a 100% sure thing, but I could see it being true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyonthewall2983 Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_tq0nhgjC4 Somewhere in this it's inferred that Vince had someone on the inside of Time Warner sabotage the potential sale of WCW to a new group that could have rejuvenated the brand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted May 31, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_tq0nhgjC4 Somewhere in this it's inferred that Vince had someone on the inside of Time Warner sabotage the potential sale of WCW to a new group that could have rejuvenated the brand. Well this one is very likely true. The amount that Vince paid for WCW & the whole tape library was insanely low, lower than some of the other offers that were on the table for WCW. If I recall correctly the guy who brokered the deal then went to work for WWE shortly after it was done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyonthewall2983 Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 I didn't mean to infer by posting it that it wasn't true, but just to add to the discussion. And I actually believe if it's the same guy, he possibly worked for Vince before coming to work for Turner/Time Warner as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrainfollower Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 I've actually always thought Montreal could have been a work. I mean if Vince HAD gone to Bret with that idea, would he have gone along with the finish do you think? It certainly didn't make him look bad at all and it still got the belt on Shawn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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